1 10 85 Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource UWA ORAL HISTORIES Description An account of the resource A collection of interviews with former UWA staff, recorded by the <a href="http://www.alumni.uwa.edu.au/community/historical-society" target="_blank">UWA Historical Society</a> to mark the Centenary of the University in 2013. <br />The UWA Historical Society’s <a href="http://www.alumni.uwa.edu.au/community/historical-society/oral-histories" target="_blank">Oral History Program</a> started as a project with four oral histories funded from Society resources. It was then expanded with support from every Faculty on campus, the Guild, Convocation and through private donations. Additional funding was received through a Heritage Grant. Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available University of Western Australia Historical Society Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource University of Western Australia Historical Society Oral History A resource containing historical information obtained in interviews with persons having firsthand knowledge. Interviewer The person(s) performing the interview John Bannister Interviewee The person(s) being interviewed Alan Robson Duration Length of time involved (seconds, minutes, hours, days, class periods, etc.) Interview 1: 49 minutes, 5 seconds Interview 2: 53 minutes, 38 seconds Interview 3: 52 minutes, 10 seconds Total: 2 hours, 34 minutes, 53 seconds Bit Rate/Frequency Rate at which bits are transferred (i.e. 96 kbit/s would be FM quality audio) 128 kbs Time Summary A summary of an interview given for different time stamps throughout the interview Interview 1 00:00:00 Alan David Robson born in Melbourne 1945. Family background. Living in rural Victoria and Melbourne. University. Studying Agricultural Science. Scholarship to University of WA. Medic breeder. Reputation of WA. John Millington. A lot of people didn’t do a PhD. Scholarship, Agricultural Science, Millington 00:03:23 Intensions for PhD. Memories of the school of agriculture. Comparisons with Melbourne. Vibrant undergraduate research. Underwood, Moir, Millington , Quirk and Lonergan. Underwood, Moir, Millington , Quirk, Lonergan * 00:05:45 Memories of the arrival to Perth. Millington. Myer Street and the divide. Plots and paddocks in UWA. Zoology and Botany. The Munns Line. CSIRO on campus. Synergistic relationship and Agricultural department and WA Agricultural department and the university. CSIRO, Millington 00:8:30 Memories of UWA tea room. Comparisons to Melbourne and UWA. First impressions. The Tuart club. Underwood and Moir and Lonergan interact with the undergraduates. Young families and social functions. Supportive environment. Tuart Club, Moir, social functions 00:11:00 Huge laboratory of WA. Plots in Tammin* and other country locations. Camping and field work for PhD. Memories of Underwood was a giant. He could pick good people. Harry Wearing. Underwood was very interested. Harry Wearing, Underwood, field work 00:14:25 Memories of Reg Moir. The legend and a perfectionist. Writes some significant reviews. Ruminant nutrition. Underwood, Summers* and Moir were the three most important people in animal science. Underwood, Summers, Moir 00:16:35 Moir did not write much. Faculty was very coherent. Teaching while doing PhD. Playing squash with staff. Memories of David Lindsay. Head of reproductive program. Incredibly popular. Best after dinner speaker. Plays cricket. Moir, Lindsay 00:19:55 The farm tour and interactions between staff and students. social interaction and an interesting time in the faculty history. Memories of Millington. Significant discoveries with Cliff Frances and Gladstone. Lonergan and Gladstone. Farm Tour, Millington, Cliff Frances, Gladstone, Lonergan 00:22:27 Farming community appreciate the institute and Department of Agriculture. Trace elements a 20th century discovery. Receptive audience. Growers pay a levy on production. A farthing a bushel. Support of the government and farmers. Support, government, Department of Agriculture 00:25:00 Agricultural research strong at UWA was fostered by Underwood Lindsey Quirk, Jack Lonergan *. Strong relationships with community and graduate students. co-operative environment. PhD, why wont medics grow on acid soil. Millington and sandy soils in the Mediterranean vs WA. Island of Sardinia. Discovery and research. Gladstone and Lupin Lindsay and Reproduction of sheep. Moir and sheep feed. Underwood, Lindsey, Quirk, Jack Lonergan, Millington, Gladstone* 00:28:40 Cooperative research centre. Relationships and good will fostered by Underwood, Moir and Lindsay. Good conditions in 1966. Funding and buoyant agriculture. Downturn in 1969. Coming back in 1974. Geology was a popular faculty. Memories of Poseidon and Meckering earthquake. 00:31:25 Memories of Perth the city. Career could grow. Perth was an open community. Barriers to succeed. UWA and thoughts of career. Heavily connected to the agricultural community. Knowing farmers as a graduate student. Memories of Prescott. Arts festival and the summer school. 00:34:29 Eyes on the Agriculture Department. Strong schools at UWA. Agricultural was very important to the state. Best faculty of Australia in 89. Built up by good people. Things turn around when Underwood leaves. Strong schools, Underwood 00:36:54 CLIM and other research dry land and future farms. Collective is a feature. Memories of the head of the school Quirk giant intellect. Posner*, Alemore,* Parker. Memories of fierce seminars. Soil science was a lot stronger than other faculties. Story of Jim Quirk. A good sportsman. Roger swift has a distinguished career. Posner*, Alemore,* Parker, Jim Quirk, Roger swift 00:40:25 Everyone wears collar and ties. Interactions with one another. People would talk about work in the tea room. The Border Medal. Backward Push to Science award. People go to seminars. Social and intellectual interaction. Memories of the generalists at UWA. UWA and the generalist degrees. Cross pollination between departments. Social and intellectual interaction, Backward Push to Science award 00:44:39 Every school had its own library. Libraries are social places. The place was a lot smaller. UWA was the place. Loving the grounds of UWA. Good sense of UWA. University residences and interactions that result. Kim Cavanagh*. Playing squash. Fiona Stanley and the interactions. Staff students cricket match. Neville Stanley. Libraries are social places, Kim Cavanagh, Fiona Stanley, Neville Stanley 00:48:00 Wanting to make changes as Vice Chancellor. Reasons for building The Club. An interesting time. Changes, Vice Chancellor Interview 2 00:00:00 1969 leaving WA. Memories of the army. Benefits of the army. Hopeless soldier. Officer training. Leadership and keeping a balance. leadership 00:05:40 Post army life and career. Horsham research. Victoria Wheat Research institute Advertised Professor in Plant Nutrition at UWA. Quirk and Lonergan foundation Prof at Murdoch*. Appointed with no interview. Arriving in Perth in 1974. Memories of the Tuart Club. Professor in Plant Nutrition, Quirk, Lonergan 00:08:25 Buying a house in Scarborough. No training in lecturing. Putting a lot of work as a lecturer. Enjoying lecturing. Importance of knowing peoples names. Getting on well with students. The social life of the university. Thai students. The most junior lecturer. Lecturing, students 00:11:37 Changes at the university. Not knowing too many people at the university. The Agricultural Department was isolated. Meeting Street VC . Don’t patronise me. Sub Dean of the faculty. Promotion disappointments. Prof Boyle refuses to see Robson. Talking to failed applicants. University support for lecturers. No one peer reviewed the teaching. Importance of research. Agricultural Department, isolated, Promotion, Boyle, peer review, research 00:15:37 Memories of the quality of the students in the 1970s. Agriculture was a close knit faculty. An exciting time. Strong research group. state research and the support of rural industry research funds. State wheat research group. Teaching honours students. High quality students. Agriculture students weren’t the highest achieving students. the position of Agriculture at UWA. Pecking order in science at UWA. Discussions with Posner. Research not based on science. Large numbers of international students in Agriculture . Large numbers of students. A lot of time on research . Quality, Posner, research 00:20:33 Grassland Research Institute in 1980. Promotion to Associate Professor 83 applying for the chair of soil science 1983. Public process of getting a chair. David Lindsay and Bob Linder and Robson to move the department forward. Fill Cox. Productive period to 1993. Foundation professor of CLIMA Centre for Legumes in Mediterranean Agriculture. CRC projects in future farming. Grassland Research Institute, Associate Professor, David Lindsay, Bob Linder, Fill Cox*, CLIMA 00:23:23 David Lindsay and sheep research. collaboration Department of Agriculture. In-service training in Muresk. Nutrient deficiency book. High science a valuable science. Looking at the reputation of UWA. Complacent in Perth. Isolation. Curtin and UWA. Comparisons with other universities in the east. David Lindsay, collaboration, Muresk, isolation, Curtin 00:27:00 Complacency in agriculture. International links. Importance of international students and visitors. Series of conferences on trace elements in soil and plants. Attraction of people. International connections and publishing international journals. Pre computers. Writing and conferences. Encouraged to research and support of research funds. Expected to be strong in research. Assessment of research performance. Large numbers of students. Industry funds. Going to talk at conferences Complacency, Industry funds, conferences, research 00:31:42 UWA and its place in the world. John Pate and Underwood and Fellow of the Royal Society. Chemistry was strong. Period of acting head of science and Agriculture. Dean of Agriculture. Promotions and tenure committee. Making decisions a minute. Fay Gayle. Management leaders. Whelen and Street. Fay Gayle, Management leaders. Whelen and Street. 00:36:00 Theatrics at the academic board. Patty O’brien, Mal Sergeant, John Jory. The debating society . moving a motion on devolution of the university. Bob Street. UWA was run by powerful committee and formula. Politics. Grants and budget. Political system. University house and the politics. Patty O’brien, Mal Sergeant, John Jory, Bob Street, Politics, Grants 00:38:45 Fierce place at agriculture. The academic board was a different game all together. Quirk would go to the uni house to talk to people. Working the system. Blakers, Boyle and Billings. The strong people early on. Underwood. Other people were good at working the system. Memories of Neville Stanley. The game of the professor. astute people could engineers support. Performance based budget. Politics change to designing the formulas. Blakers, Boyle and Billings, Neville Stanley 00:42:58 CLIMA and the internationalisation of UWA. CSIRO, Ag Dep. Steering the committee. Harry Perkins. Independent experts. Centre for Legumes in Mediterranean Agriculture CLIMA and finance. Survives today and has significant links. Dominated research. getting enough people together. The good will. CLIMA, Harry Perkins, CLIMA, research 00:46:00 Sabbatical leave system. The system disappeared in the 1970s. Importance of study leave. UWA and employment of international people. Tendency of appointing people from outside is good for internationalisation. People felt isolated at UWA. Travel and the internet. Sabbatical, internationalisation 00:50:11 Eyes focusing on UWA. Gayle changed the place. Adelaide was miles ahead of UWA. Thoughts of Fay Gayle. Derrick Schreuder. Deputy Vice Chancellor. Margaret Seares. UWA was inward looking. Running the budget. Becoming VC Gayle, Gayle, Derrick Schreuder, Margaret Seares. Interview 3 00:00:00 Shcreuder takes an external role. Robson running the budget and Providing leadership under shcreuder. Productive period. 2004 Vice Chancellor achieving international excellence. Rankings and quality audits of the 90s. local community and the wider world. UWA serving the community as a gateway to the world. Working at an international level. 88 in the world. Schreuder, international excellence, rankings, gateway 00:04:05 An enormous leap in ranking with the Nobel Prize of Barry marshall and Robin Warren. Achievements and teaching and quality. Scores of student satisfaction. Introduction of gernalised degree. Professional post graduate degree. Incentives through the budget. The culture of the university. Nobel Prize, Barry Marshall, budget 00:07:10 Memories of the building of the club. Doing a servey in 1998. Engaging with the city and business. A University centre in Albany. Getting more scholarships. Equity dimension. Collaboration and competition with other WA universities. Perceptions of the community. Stable executive. Margaret Seares. Peter Curtis. Cohesive group. Viewing the role of VC. Internationally competitive. Support from the university community. The Club, Albany, Collaboration, Margaret Seares, Peter Curtis, Internationally competitive, university community 00:12:37 Robson didn’t leave UWA when Derrick Schreuder was Vice Chancellor. Memories of Michael Chaney and Ken Michael chancellors of UWA. UWA is performing the right way. Performing parts of the university. Attracting North American students. President of Gutenberg university comes to UWA. Derrick Schreuder , Michael Chaney, Ken Michael, 00:16:20 Students must leave with more than a degree. Students engaging more at the university. More colleges at the university and building at UWA. The Bayliss building. The business school. The business school board. Tony Howarth, Tracey Houghton. Changing the feeling of the business community toward UWA. The business school, Tony Howarth*, Tracey Houghton 00:18:02 Quality of student. The performers indicators. Worrying lack of students in mathematics and engineers. Wider range of ability and decline in standards. Holley Ransom. Political parties declined in the university. Concerns for the intellect leaving with international students. Alumni functions in London and elsewhere. Graduates go all around the world. Post graduate students and international students. Income for the university. Teaching in English. International students, Holley Ransom, standards 00:24:37 Fees and a free university. Fraser government and Howard government - fees and HECs. Impact on equity. Deregulation reforms. Difficult decisions of the Vice Chancellor. Professional staff car park. Closing UWA Press. Fees, HECs, equity 00:29:30 Staffing appointments. Choosing the right people. Chair of the group of 8 universities. Research universities. Universities Australia. research funding. Being involved in national affairs. Awards. Australia Medal for Agriculture and Science. Order and Officer of Australia Medal. Reputation of UWA. group of 8, Research finding, reputation 00:33:35 Awards for work in the field of agriculture and as Vice Chancellor. The juggling match of family and career. Working 6 days a week and travelling a lot. Good experiences as student and academic at UWA. 00:36:50 Pride of work. Accomplishments of the university. Interactions with the students. publishing good papers. String protestant work ethic. Group effort standing on the shoulders of giants. Being challenged. Rooster and feather dusters. Accomplishments, pride 00:40:00 Knowing people at the university. Leaving the position in 2011. Isolation. Looking at the university today. Chance to influence the university. Post university roles. Chairing Museum committee, Higher education standards body, CSIRO and doing interesting things. Quality of higher education and regulating standards. Excellent students at UWA today. UWA on a good trajectory. Paul Johnson doing a very good job. Isolation, higher education, students 00:44:55 Universities and values. UWA will differentiate. Students must value going to University. Network of 20 world wide universities. Collaborations around the world. Global village and online university. Mature age and school leavers. The death of the university. Group learning in the library. Global village, The death of the university 00:48:35 Growth online of university. Looking at personal experience. Great social and student life. Student cohesion and the strong guild and university. Summing up a fortunate life since UWA connections since 1966. Audio Files Links to audio files <a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/b6eaf5b710f2b351a4d37db0667a8c19.mp3">Robson, Interview 1, Track 1</a> <br /><a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/29979380db59e73c653241d990a895d9.mp3">Robson, Interview 2, Track 1</a> <br /><a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/a5b5eb9ab9d6af93b241794df4740e47.mp3">Robson, Interview 2, Track 2</a> Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Alan Robson interview, 13 August 2014 and 15 August 2014 Subject The topic of the resource Vice-Chancellery Description An account of the resource Alan Robson talks of his involvement with UWA from his initial student days from 1966 to the experiences of his coming to work at the university in 1974. He reflects on the universities reputation and how it was considered in the 1970s while considering its current rankings on the academic world scale. Working in the faculty of agriculture he speaks of his memories of his colleagues like Reg Moir, Neville Stanley and David Lindsay among others. He talks of the development of his career from lecturer to Dean of Agriculture and Vice Chancellor of the university 2004. He looks at the work of former Vice Chancellors Fay Gayle and Derrick Shreuder. With a distinguished career in his field of expertise Robson was foundation professor of CLIMA Centre for Legumes in Mediterranean Agriculture. This body would help the university expand its connections on the world stage, a main aim of Alan’s internationalisation of the university in his work as Deputy Vice Chancellor and then Vice Chancellor. He recalls changes to the community of the University he has experienced and talks of his aims for the university’s development and future in taking up the position of Vice Chancellor in2004. He speaks of some of the many achievements of the University over his 48 years of association with the institution. He looks at its growth and its future in a changing academic world. 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For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource UWA ORAL HISTORIES Description An account of the resource A collection of interviews with former UWA staff, recorded by the <a href="http://www.alumni.uwa.edu.au/community/historical-society" target="_blank">UWA Historical Society</a> to mark the Centenary of the University in 2013. <br />The UWA Historical Society’s <a href="http://www.alumni.uwa.edu.au/community/historical-society/oral-histories" target="_blank">Oral History Program</a> started as a project with four oral histories funded from Society resources. It was then expanded with support from every Faculty on campus, the Guild, Convocation and through private donations. Additional funding was received through a Heritage Grant. Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available University of Western Australia Historical Society Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource University of Western Australia Historical Society Oral History A resource containing historical information obtained in interviews with persons having firsthand knowledge. Interviewer The person(s) performing the interview Julia Wallis Interviewee The person(s) being interviewed Alex Cohen Location The location of the interview Mount Pleasant, WA Duration Length of time involved (seconds, minutes, hours, days, class periods, etc.) Interview 1: 54 minutes, 33 seconds Interview 2: 52 minutes, 18 seconds Interview 3: 19 minutes, 11 seconds Total: 2 hours, 6 minutes, 2 seconds Bit Rate/Frequency Rate at which bits are transferred (i.e. 96 kbit/s would be FM quality audio) 128 kbs Time Summary A summary of an interview given for different time stamps throughout the interview Interview 1 00:00:00 Introduction by Julia Wallis 00:01:14 Alex Cohen (“AKC”) outlines his plan for the interview sessions and will discuss the Senate years in the first interview. AKC was involved as a medical representative on behalf of the university at various meetings. Around about 1981, it was suggested that he stand for the UWA Senate. He had studied medicine in Adelaide as the medical school at UWA was not founded until 1967 but was admitted ad eundem gratum by Professor Mervyn Austin in about 1976 to the Convocation of UWA Graduates. At the time of the Senate election in 1981 he was in competition with John Gillett, the son of a former Chancellor at UWA. AKC was assisted in his lobbying by Eric Silbert and was elected by 1 vote! AKC served on the Senate for the next 8 years. He learnt a great deal and felt that he was gradually groomed to become the Chancellor. 00:05:47 AKC was Chair of the University Extension Board (1984-1987) then ran by Maureen Smith . The Extension office was near the Lawrence Wilson Gallery. They planned events and advertised on the university radio station. He was Chairman of the Finance Committee (1991-1998) even though he had no accountancy skills. From 1986 to 1998, he served as Chair of the Finance Committee on the Festival of Perth Board of Management. The Director at the time was David Blenkinsop. He had a more relaxed style than his predecessor John Birman. Professor Fred Alexander the founding Professor of History at UWA was on the Festival Finance Committee and interfered in almost every decision that was made! The Festival became a big success even though it went through some tough times financially. AKC was an invitee to most of the Festival events. His late first wife Adele was a professional actor, was connected with the University Dramatic Society and knew Joan Pope, Neville Teede and John Baden-Powell. In 1998, Adele died and AKC stopped working as a physician for a little while. 00:11:48 During his time on the Senate, AKC encountered several Vice-Chancellors and Chancellors. Sir Lawrence Jackson was calm, knowledgeable, authoritative and fair. He met AKC for a cup of tea a week after his election to the Senate and explained how it worked. Robert Street was a very intelligent physicist but perhaps too kindly. Don Aitken , who succeeded the Hon Sir Lawrence Jackson as Chancellor, was an engineer. He liked order and precision. The next Chancellor, the Hon Mr Justice Kennedy was a High Court Judge. He was kind, whimsical and quietly spoken. He had wanted to retire earlier but stayed on in order to give AKC the opportunity to stand as Chancellor. 00:16:01 The consequence of AKC’s election as Chancellor can be discussed during the next interview but there was a great deal of lobbying. UWA had never before had a doctor as Chancellor. Ken Michael had been brought onto the Senate to serve as Chancellor and was a strong contender for the position. AKC put it to Ken Michael that perhaps he should wait until AKC had served his time as Chancellor which he willingly did. This did not appease Ken Michael’s supporters and there was much political lobbying in the University Club dining room! AKC was elected Chancellor in 1998. 00:18:13 In 1985, Robert Street was replaced as Vice-Chancellor by Bob Smith . Smith was charming and very socially adept. This was a time of great change in universities with the Dawkins Review in 1987. Universities such as UWA were now in competition with other educational establishments. There was discussion in the Senate that Murdoch should have been the second campus of UWA. Murdoch has had many challenges but has now established itself as the premier veterinary school in WA. A more serious threat was the establishment of Curtin University (formerly T.A.F.E.) under Don Watts. Curtin has a more practical approach to academe and is more community orientated. At first Edith Cowan was not well regarded as it has been a teachers’ college but has since found its niche in the market. Notre Dame is also a threat. The Vice-Chancellor of Notre Dame was once a member of the UWA Senate. 00:25:56 The Dawkins Review and the reintroduction of Higher Education Contribution Scheme (HECS) in 1987 has challenged established universities such as UWA. The Vice-Chancellors during this time were Robert Street and at the time of Dawkins, Bob Smith (who, unbeknown to UWA, was on Dawkins’ Committee). He was seconded to implement the Dawkins’ recommendations and was replaced by Fay Gale . She was from Adelaide and her background was history and arts. Her passion for female equality caused ripples of anxiety at UWA. Fay did a lot of travelling and in her absence, Alan Robson held the fort. He had hoped to be made Vice-Chancellor following the departure of R H T Smith in 1989. Alan Robson was from the School of Agriculture which was one of the founding disciplines at UWA. AKC has the greatest respect for Alan Robson. 00:30:36 At one time, there was a concern that there was an over representation of Catholic councillors on the UWA campus. It was decided that a deputation that included AKC, Fay Gale and the registrar, Malcolm Orr, should meet with Archbishop Hickey. Fay Gale arrived late – dressed from head to toe in purple and succeeded in upstaging the Archbishop! When Fay Gale retired due to ill health, Derek Schreuder was recruited. He came into office at about the time that AKC was elected as Chancellor. AKC is of the opinion that he was not the right appointment for that time. It was a time when self-examination and deep esprit de corps was required. The portraits of the UWA Chancellors hang in the Senate Room while those of the Vice-Chancellor hang in the Foyer of the Chancellery. All the portraits are the same size apart from Schreuder’s which is twice as big as the rest! 00:33:49 AKC recalls other members of the Senate. Although it changed over the 8 years, there was a time when David Malcolm and the Dean of Arts, Felicity Haynes sat opposite him. They were both statuesque – like a Greek God and Goddess! The Chair of the Professorial Council represented the academics and Terry Quickenden from Chemistry represented the staff. Lawyer, Paul Nichols reminded AKC of Rumpole of the Bailey. 00:36:48 Dr Sue Baker was the Chair of Convocation. The role of Convocation is extremely important but was ineffective at one time. Sue Baker was a strong advocate for Convocation but unfortunately died in 2014. The current Warden, Adjunct Professor Warren Kerr AM is also trying to reinvigorate Convocation. There is a fear in university circles that there are moves afoot to abolish Convocation as has occurred in universities in the eastern states. If Convocation does disband AKC fears that the forces that have corporatised the Senate will reign supreme. AKC is not a fan of the current corporatisation that is happening at UWA. UWA is at a watershed. 00:41:25 When AKC was Chancellor, he used to take the Student Guild Committee to dinner before each Senate meeting. One of the students who stood out on the committee was Rosie Dawkins (Guild President in 1998). He was disappointed that sometimes the Guild elections degenerated into lies and dirty tactics. 00:42:38 It was assumed that any member of the Senate is there to promote the university and not their own agenda. When AKC was first elected to the Senate he sat and absorbed what was going on and said nothing so that he did not make a fool of himself. The first day that Jack Krasnostein he asked whether the insurance policy would cover the theft of a valuable statue that was displayed in Winthrop Hall. The Sir Jacob Epstein bust of a girl has since been moved! In 1986, AKC delivered some medical lectures in Karratha. Visiting Cossack on a free afternoon, he discovered the bust of Professor A D Ross (the inaugural Professor of Physics) in a second hand shop. UWA bought it and it now stands in the foyer of the Physics building. 00:47:05 Even though, AKC was the first physician that was made Chancellor, notable physicians who served on the Senate included Leslie Le Souef , Bruce Hunt and Hector Stewart . These men were influential men who were favoured by the Government. It was considered that the Chancellor needed a legal mind. AKC believes it was a quirk of fate that led him to become elected as Chancellor. It is not considered to be a pre-requisite for the Chancellor to serve time on the Senate. 00:50:11 Notable women who served on the Senate include Janet Holmes a Court (1984-1994); Barbara Hamilton; Dorothy Ransom and Jean Rogerson (who became substantial donors to the university). Philippa Maddern was a strong presence on the Senate as was Cheryl Praeger, the mathematician. Margaret Seares was a very influential member of the Senate and served on the Executive. Up until 1998, the Chancellor would have had a much more intimate and influential governance of the university. When AKC became Chancellor he was not invited to meetings of the Executive. It was the Executive who formulated the policy. Another change was that for 6 years, AKC chaired the appointments committee to Professorial posts but when Derek Schreuder arrived, he took over that role. The role of the Chancellor has gradually become eroded so that the role is now more like a figure head. 00:54:33 END OF INTERVIEW 1 Interview 2 00:00:00 Introduction by Julia Wallis 00:00:37 AKC had served as Pro Chancellor for 2-3 years (1995-1998). He had had experience on various committees and had chaired the Appointments Committee for 4-5 years. Ken Michael was being groomed as the next Chancellor but AKC felt that he should throw his hat into the ring. Some people on the Senate were opposed to him becoming Chancellor. AKC gave an excellent and well received farewell speech for David Blenkinsop, who was retiring as Director of the Festival of Perth and this may have helped his cause. The election went well and AKC became Chancellor. The night he was elected Chancellor he was telephoned to come and fix a banging gate on the southern campus. The following morning he was photographed by the West Australian in a pose that reminded him of an academic grocer. In the West interview, he stated that he wanted to strengthen ties with Indonesia. As physician to the King of Bali, he was visiting the universities. He wanted to encourage a partnership between the two countries and assist them to develop. 00:06:16 The first thing he did when had settled into the role was to visit all the Faculties and Deans. The Chancellor was more of a titular role. He did not attend Executive meetings. Colin Campbell-Fraser, the Press Officer, also attended the Executive meetings. He was invaluable for his knowledge of the media and the wider world. The Chancellor greeted individual students at the graduation ceremonies and he considered this an important role. Mel (Melville) Sargent used to introduce the students to the Chancellor in his plummy voice. Many universities in Australia no longer have individuals greeted but are conferred with their degrees as a sort of ‘job lot’. 00:12:23 At the time, there were problems settling the dispute over the Shenton Park bushland. AKC met the Aboriginal community on site but the matter was unresolved. Another troublesome period was during the Rindos affair . AKC and Alan Robson had to explain the situation in the West Australian Parliament. It was a difficult time. Another difficult time concerned one of AKC’s friends in another Faculty which put him in an awkward position. Lynne Smith was a marvellous PA. AKC attended the Hackett Foundation meetings and did a lot of public speaking on behalf of the University. 00:16:08 The Queen visited to open the Centre for Experimental Medicine at WA. During his Chancellorship the new University Club was being built by the architect Geoff Warn . AKC considers the new club to be a vast improvement and wrote an article on the subject in Uniview. The building has attempted to blend in with the campus. The tiles were very expensive and caused some controversy. Harold Clough was very supportive of the project and of the university in general. 00:20:31 Most UWA graduates are proud of their alma mater and value the quality of the teaching and the undergraduate experience. Dr Harold Schenberg said on many occasions that UWA had changed his life. Peter Leunig and the Office of Development came into being to assist people like Dr Schenberg to leave money to UWA as a legacy. They brought in lots of money and even travelled overseas to talk to ex graduates. This has led to an almost commercialisation of the university with a vast infrastructure of people doing what they can to raise money. Many years before, the Raine bequest had also brought money to UWA and in recent years the university has benefited from the Andrew (“Twiggy”) Forrest Legacy. 00:25:44 The Director of Finance (then Gaye McMath) manages these monies via the university share portfolio. UWA is no longer a wealthy university as it was at the time of the Hackett Bequest due to competition from the other universities. The Lawrence Wilson Art Gallery was the gift of Sir Lawrence just before he was declared bankrupt. Alan Robson had his own fund to which he had access. This fund provided the shortfall of $13,000 which enable the School of Music to buy a particular instrument. This would not happen today. 00:29:50 Towards the end of AKC’s time as Chancellor he and the Hon Peter Jones AM raised $3 million to establish a Chair in Diabetes at UWA. AKC is proud that the Diabetes Research Foundation has founded many scholarships. Money was also raised for the professorial walk behind the Medical Library. Sculptors Joan and Charles Smith were commissioned to create 12 bas-reliefs of the founding professors of the Medical Faculty (founded in 1956). The children of some of the founding professors including Eric Saint, Ralph ten Seldam and Neville Stanley were happy to donate money towards the project and the entire medical profession also gave generously. During the time that AKC was Chancellor, he was the Director of Postgraduate Medical Education at Sir Charles Gairdner Hospital. He developed the lecture theatre in memory of Mary Lockett, the first woman Professor (Pharmacology) at UWA. 00:33:25 The Medical School at UWA opened in 1956 after a very successful fund raising drive across the community. The twelve professors were recruited and the Medical School was based at Royal Perth Hospital (“RPH”). There were only about 20 students in the early days and some of them had returned from studying in Adelaide to finish their degrees in Perth. In 1963, the old Perth Chest Hospital was enlarged and renamed Sir Charles Gairdner Hospital (“SCGH”). Richard Joske transferred from RPH to head up SCGH. Eric Saint was the inaugural professor and Joske followed him. Rivalry developed between the two hospitals. On Wednesday lunchtime, the medical students were addressed by a person from outside the Medical School. SCGH has become the favoured site and RPH has been denigrated. AKC spent 35 years at RPH and believes it to be an essential hospital serving the inner city. AKC believes that the UWA Medical School has missed opportunities. In about 2006 it was offered the chance to convert to a 4 year medical course. They didn’t at that time but has since had to do this as it was the popular model throughout Australia (based on the Harvard system) and was taken up by the Medical School at Notre Dame. If Curtin also start a medical school, it will be difficult to find enough people qualified to teach the students and places for their practical. Nobel Laureate, Dr Barry Marshall has been the cherry on the cake for the UWA Medical School. 00:40:11 The UWA Medical School is set apart from the rest of the campus. The students are fully occupied with their studies and their way of learning is different to the rest of the campus. If the students have no exposure to other disciplines outside of medicine during their undergraduate years they rarely pick that up when they have graduated. Teaching is very different now and AKC feels that there should be more face to face teaching and less online studying. This is an area where UWA needs to lift its game. Research has been privileged over teaching. A good teacher is not always a good researcher and vice versa. 00:43:20 In the days of Hackett and his successors the Chancellorship had a commanding role. This is no longer the case. Universities became more of a business and the Chancellor did not have the skills. The Vice-Chancellor no longer attends meetings of the Professorial Board so the link with the Academic staff is not as strong as it used to be. 00:46:02 Mary Lockett was the first female Professor at UWA. Now there are many female Professors in many fields. Women administer the Lawrence Wilson Gallery. John Birman the director of the Festival of Perth began University Extension. Maureen Smith carried it on and developed the University of the Third Age. At the time, the university had an FM radio station in a wooden structure near the Lawrence Wilson gallery. It was a sad loss the day that costs forced the radio station to close as it was an importance presence on campus and a great outreach to the community. 00:49:19 Through the time that AKC was Chair of Finance and after, the future and survival of UWA Press was under discussion. Some in the Vice-Chancellery felt that it was an unjustified expense. Fremantle Press was developing and it was felt there was no need for a UWA Press. However, Professor Geoffrey Shellam fought hard against it closure. AKC supported him but it was tough going. The Press was founded by Philip Parsons, who taught in the English Department of the University of Western Australia in the 1950s and his wife, Katharine Brisbane. The current editor, Terri-ann White has to make some tough editorial decisions to keep the press viable. 00:52:18 END OF INTERVIEW 2 Interview 3 00:00:00 Introduction by Julia Wallis. 00:00:40 AKC’s years on the Senate and as Chancellor have given him a renewed pride in the university. He believes his effect has been transient but he tried to build relationships on the Student Guild. He remains friends with many on the Senate and with various people on campus and still meets people for coffee a couple of times a week. The rise of four other universities has given UWA competition which prior to about 1974 it had never had to contend with. The university is a microcosm of life and there are many seething petty rivalries but also great stimulus and esprit de corps. 00:05:27 AKC wanted to repay the university in some concrete way. In August 2014, he met with the Office of Development and expressed the wish to fund a Chair in Translational Science. The office ran with the idea but did not ask for AKC’s assistance with it. Instead, he decided to work with the School of Music. Had been Chair of the Friends of Music for 5 years and knew the staff in the School of Music. David Tunley had mentioned the fact that the school used to have a visiting artist which enriched the staff and students. AKC discussed this with the Vice-Chancellor who gave him permission to personally fund raise. Later he learnt that the School of Music was planning to have a composer in residence for a year so he dropped the concept. 00:10:54 Taking to Professor Paul Wright (violin) and Dr Ashley Smith (clarinet) and Ian Gillings (piano) he decided to put on a Soiree that married the concepts of poetry, music and philosophy. Paul Wright was enthusiastic and the production included a metaphysical poem by Thomas Trahere and music by Gerald Finzi. There was one performance in the Callaway Theatre and it was packed out. He was greatly assisted in organising this Soiree by Pip White at the School of Music. 00:13:11 During this time, AKC began to realise how important St George’s College was to the promotion of music. They are one of the few places in Australia that has a Fazioli piano. Their students are committed to music and they have a programme of visiting artists for one on one and master classes and put on about 20 concerts each year. AKC feels that the college has the capacity to be a unique institution in Australia. They need to have a strong partnership with the School of Music at UWA. Inter-disciplinary partnerships across the campus should also be fostered in the Humanities. Music is very low on the list of priorities as people perceive that medicine, engineering and business are more important disciplines. 00:15:56 AKC is aware that the administrators at UWA have a difficult task coping with inconsistent government policy regarding funding and other matters. There needs to be a steady hand on the tiller. AKC has a great admiration for academics as long as they devote time to teaching. The enthusiasm of people like Professor Lyn Beazley, Professor Fiona Stanley and Winthrop Professor David Blair is inspiring. 00:19:11 END OF INTERVIEW 3 Audio Files Links to audio files <p><a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/eba2fc2e5e605c4981f287f3e2c0cece.mp3">Cohen_Alex, Interview 1, Track1<br /></a><a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/9c0ee0f13fde086e18de68beb4efaddc.mp3">Cohen_Alex, Interview 2, Track1</a><a href="eba2fc2e5e605c4981f287f3e2c0cece.mp3"><br /></a><a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/5a64104341d98c9d4b10ea91b0882392.mp3">Cohen_Alex, Interview 2, Track2<br /></a><a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/d08d355ad24ac691ac0ddc5f322e22e3.mp3">Cohen_Alex, Interview 3, Track1</a></p> <p><a href="5a64104341d98c9d4b10ea91b0882392.mp3"> </a></p> <p><a href="eba2fc2e5e605c4981f287f3e2c0cece.mp3"><br /><br /><br /></a></p> <p> </p> <p><a href="eba2fc2e5e605c4981f287f3e2c0cece.mp3"> </a></p> Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Alexander Cohen interview, 21 February 2016, 23 February 2016 and 25 February 2016 Subject The topic of the resource Medicine Description An account of the resource Consultant Physician Alexander Kevin Cohen was born in Perth on 22 September 1926. He studied medicine at Adelaide University graduating in 1950. He spent his postgraduate years in London where he met his future wife. He was appointed to the Clinical Staff of the Royal Perth Hospital in 1957 and served as a physician until his retirement in 1992. His main interest has been in endocrine disorders and he has had a number of papers published in this field. He has been a member of the UWA Senate for many years. He was also chairman of the Finance Committee. In recognition of his contribution to the Faculty of Medicine, he was appointed Clinical Professor of Medicine. Since his retirement from the Royal Perth Hospital, he has been Director of Postgraduate Education at Sir Charles Gairdner Hospital and President of the Royal Australian College of Physicians. Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource Cohen, Alexander Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available University of Western Australia Historical Society Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource Copyright University of Western Australia Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource MP3 files Type The nature or genre of the resource Oral History Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource UWA ORAL HISTORIES Description An account of the resource A collection of interviews with former UWA staff, recorded by the <a href="http://www.alumni.uwa.edu.au/community/historical-society" target="_blank">UWA Historical Society</a> to mark the Centenary of the University in 2013. <br />The UWA Historical Society’s <a href="http://www.alumni.uwa.edu.au/community/historical-society/oral-histories" target="_blank">Oral History Program</a> started as a project with four oral histories funded from Society resources. It was then expanded with support from every Faculty on campus, the Guild, Convocation and through private donations. Additional funding was received through a Heritage Grant. Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available University of Western Australia Historical Society Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource University of Western Australia Historical Society Oral History A resource containing historical information obtained in interviews with persons having firsthand knowledge. Interviewer The person(s) performing the interview John Bannister Interviewee The person(s) being interviewed Alistair Devlin Location The location of the interview Perth, W.A. Duration Length of time involved (seconds, minutes, hours, days, class periods, etc.) Interview 1: 50 minutes, 19 seconds Interview 2: 56 minutes Interview 3: 53 minutes, 37 seconds Total: 2 hours, 41 minutes, 33 seconds Bit Rate/Frequency Rate at which bits are transferred (i.e. 96 kbit/s would be FM quality audio) 128 kbs Time Summary A summary of an interview given for different time stamps throughout the interview Interview 1 00:00:00 Alistair Malcolm Devlin born in Yarloop. Father works for Nestlé. Brother Chris is drawn to dentistry. Brother was a trend setter. Father studied at Muresk. The university’s reputation. Comparisons to WAIT. Aspiring to go to UWA. Decision to go to UWA to study dentistry. 00:07:00 Thoughts and memories of the university. Preclinical years of study. Zoology behind St George’s College. Professor Waring was an impressive character. Chemistry near James Oval. Physics near the library. Memories of the dental school on Wellington Street and Royal Perth. 00:10:00 In awe of where you were at university. Great characters. Initial impressions of the campus of UWA. Memories of the Vice Chancellor Prescott. Part of the Empire. Aspiring to be like Oxford University. Peter Livesey. Lecturers wear gowns and impression of the old traditions. 00:14:40 Brief history of dentistry and medicine in Western Australia and at UWA. Part of the Dental College at the technical school. Dental Science. UWA intertwined with an established course. Royal Perth connection to UWA. Staff of the hospital contribute to lectures. Dentistry course similar to the medicine course. Moving to the Dental Hospital. Attraction of studying medicine and dentistry. 00:21:35 Memories of Fiona and Neville Stanley. Neville has flair. ‘Lower forms of life like medical students.’ Respect for Neville Stanley. Connections with staff and students. Inspired by osmosis. Handful of professors. Knowledge of Horace Radden. The reputation of Radden and Sutherland. People use the university as a stepping stone. People stay in the special place of UWA. 00:26:55 Dentistry was a Cinderella faculty in UWA. People come to WA from the eastern states. Ross Taylor, David Cock, Jock Herd. Memories of Ken Sutherland. The most impressive lecturer who has triple projection. Clive Jarvis was the audio visual man at the school of dentistry. Ken was not an approachable man. Geoff Bagley was the editor of the Matrix. ‘So busy so rarely seen.’ 00:32:23 Kathleen Lucraft was Sutherland’s secretary. Ross Taylor was very assertive person. Becomes the president of the ADA WA branch. Rod Stockwell and the training of dental therapists in the late 1960s. Discipline and self discipline as a professional. Jock Herd. Memories of Jock in surgery. 00:40:00 The atmosphere of University. The judging of the Miss Universe contest in refectory. Robert Pearce and Kim Beazley. John Inverarity. Cricket and the James Oval. Memories of the Labour Day holiday. Rod Marsh. Activism against Vietnam. Currie Hall. The type of person at St George’s College. Rivalry at the university and class status. 00:46:45 Thoughts of a career in a particular field of dentistry. Des Kailis and Andrew Graebner. Paediatric dentistry. Memories of Des Kailis. ASDC. Australian Society of Dentistry for Children. Max Horsnell, Roger Hall. Des becomes the founding president of the ASDC. Founding secretary of the ASDC. Gough Whitlam and the school dental service. Des Kailis an amazing fellow. Push for fluoridation of water. Des Kailis and the raising of money. Interview 2 00:00:00 ASDC and ANSPD. Memories of the early days of dentistry . Explosion of children’s dentistry with the Whitlam years. Dental therapists. Noel Peverill. Increase of manpower. Influx of dentists to WA. Anxiety of dentists to therapists. WAIT and Dental Therapy training. Andrew Graebner and Sid Thornbury. School dental service. John Pritchard. Training school at Mount Henry. WAIT and dental services program training schemes. 00:06:05 Disease rife in the community in the early 1970s. Fluoridation of the water supply. The policy of tooth removal. Dental health was in a bad way. Complete dentures. Ron Rankin Wilson experiences of tooth extraction. Fluoridation and dental decay. School dental service and dental health practice. Denture and natural bight. Ray Owen and the dental course. Changes in the society attitude to tooth removal. 00:14:00 Reputation of the school of dentistry at UWA. Well regarded follows the Melbourne model. James Campbell - Wilson. Ken Sutherland in the chair for 30 years. Lack of numbers of dentists. Money poured into education. Kim Beazley and Judy Beazley. Initial impression of UWA and the grounds and the Somerville auditorium. The Perth Festival and UWA. 00:20:00 Administration and the dental school and the state government. State government and the laboratory in the shoe factory. University funded. Noel Peverill was a force to be reckoned with. Interaction between campus dental school and Royal Perth Hospital. Money and the medical faculty. String connection between DS and RPH. Little collaboration with WAIT. Des Kailis and John Hands. Dental services. 00:26:05 Condition of child dental health and current poor health in the community. Allocation of funding $4 billion for child dental health. Poor diet and Ph in the mouth and tooth decay. Lifestyle and economic trends. Potential of growth in the 1970s. Academics coming to Perth. Parochial and people leave the state. 00:30:35 The 8 point health plan. Resistance to change. The plan in the late 1960s discussed. All the 8 points are addressed. Colin Bonney political strings pulled. Isolated campus and inventiveness. School dental service and the dental caravans. Country areas and dental problems. Cadet schemes and work with the health department. Mobile clinics. 00:38:15 Interest in paediatric dentistry. Not a speciality of the paediatric dentistry specialist graduate from UWA. Numbers of post grad programme. Winthrop Professor Nigel King and developments in the paediatric programme. John Winters chairman of the dental department of Princess Margaret hospital. Bonded state government dentist. Ray and John Owen. Dental Kimberly team. Disease and lower socio economic problems. Further memories of Des Kailis. Dental health of indigenous and teaching. Des Kailis was a can-do man. Connections within the community. Fund raising events. 00:45:20 Changes in technology and the modernisation of dentistry. K ‘Kendrew’ Block at Perth Dental Hospital. Equipment and anaesthesia. Improvements in materials used. UWA following the leader. High speed drill and New Zealand and America. 00:50:50 Area of implants and Patrick Henry and developments in WA. John Lewis. Chris Wall and Bob Hortensky. Teaching of porcelain fused technology. Developments of the dental implant. Pat was the crème de la crème of the graduates from UWA. Interest in children’s dental health and working part time in Princess Margaret Hospital. Research and cleft palate children. Only as good as your team. Interview 3 00:00:00 Clinical tutor for at the dental school and PMH. Quality of students. 1971 and 73 tutor. David Cock. Memories of tutoring. Lecturing in 1985. Working on the part time staff at PMH 1981. Students dealing with children. 00:06:15 Coordinator – setting up operative technical and clinical techniques. Organising tutors. Established lecture programme at QE2. Change in facilities and interactions with Curtin and TAFE. 00:10:00 Faculty advisory board 2003. Dental association WA branch president Andrew Smith. Information meetings. Medical aspects of the faculty. Head of the pharmacy school. Alumni society. Medifacts. Greatest joy of the sense of academic community, Bernard Catchpole and Louis Landau. Strength of community. Memories of Catchpole. Living body of academic excellence. One person in a team of excellence. 00:15:17 Connections and role models for the students. Numbers and contact with staff and students. Privilege. Changes in technology. Virtual university. Future of a lecture. Learning management system. Community of UWA. Great problems. Modules of online teaching. Control of the lecturer. Delivering a course. Size of lectures. Benefits of seminars. 00:20:20 Students more at home with technology. Fellow of College of Dentists. International reputation of the school. Abraham Hearn money. Financing visiting fellows. Perth isn’t isolated. Peter Gregory. Australasian Academy of Paediatric Dentists. Part of the community and international association. Pat Henry. WA provides three presidents of the IAPD. 00:27:40 The world is a lot smaller thanks to Peter Gregory and Pat Henry. Perth is not a Cinderella. International ranking. Professor of Paediatric Dentistry. Nigel King. Dental school has lagged behind. Dean and the faculty advisory board promoting dentistry. Support. Alan Robson. 00:31:30 Limited support. Andrew Smith and Nigel King and hopes for improvement. Thoughts of Adelaide school and cost effectiveness. Alan Robson and the dental school. Paul Johnson. Culture of leadership at the dental school. Nigel King’s philosophies. General attitude of the students and a culture of discipline. 00:38:45 Obligations to the public. Old attitudes instilled. Honorary life member of UWA dent students society. Have close contact with the Dental School Society. Traditions and functions. 00:44:35 Directions of Paediatric dental health in WA. Community regard for dentists. TAFE will lose a dental school. International pressures on dentistry. Privilege of association with UWA. Choices of students today is much less than in the past. Honoured to be involved in the school and UWA. Audio Files Links to audio files <a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/f615d33259b2be81d08c5fef1bf9f4b6.mp3">Devlin, Interview 1, Track 1</a> <br /><a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/8860d69a2533e92db15ab3273de5d8ca.mp3">Devlin, Interview 1, Track 2</a> <br /><a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/de35f81e82bbba8a47ae1ab3c63c791b.mp3">Devlin, Interview 1, Track 3</a> Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Alistair Devlin interview, 28 February 2013 Subject The topic of the resource Dentistry Description An account of the resource This is an interview with Alistair Devlin (1947-2013). He talks about studying dentistry at UWA [1970] and his career and association with the University at the School of Dentistry and QEII. He outlines the growth of the School of Dentistry over the past five decades and looks at the current state of dentistry in Western Australia. He looks at the many changes that he has witnessed in the field of dentistry and the role that the University of WA has played in some of these developments. He looks at the direction of the school of dentistry and the growing facilities and technical changes he sees available to the students taking up dentistry today. Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource Devlin, Alistair Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available University of Western Australia Historical Society Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource Copyright holder University of Western Australia Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource MP3 files Type The nature or genre of the resource Oral History Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource UWA ORAL HISTORIES Description An account of the resource A collection of interviews with former UWA staff, recorded by the <a href="http://www.alumni.uwa.edu.au/community/historical-society" target="_blank">UWA Historical Society</a> to mark the Centenary of the University in 2013. <br />The UWA Historical Society’s <a href="http://www.alumni.uwa.edu.au/community/historical-society/oral-histories" target="_blank">Oral History Program</a> started as a project with four oral histories funded from Society resources. It was then expanded with support from every Faculty on campus, the Guild, Convocation and through private donations. Additional funding was received through a Heritage Grant. Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available University of Western Australia Historical Society Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource University of Western Australia Historical Society Oral History A resource containing historical information obtained in interviews with persons having firsthand knowledge. Interviewer The person(s) performing the interview John Bannister Interviewee The person(s) being interviewed Allen German Duration Length of time involved (seconds, minutes, hours, days, class periods, etc.) Interview 1: 54 minutes, 14 seconds Interview 2: 1 hour, 7 minutes, 26 seconds Total: 2 hours, 1 minute, 40 seconds Bit Rate/Frequency Rate at which bits are transferred (i.e. 96 kbit/s would be FM quality audio) 128 kbs Time Summary A summary of an interview given for different time stamps throughout the interview Track 1 00:00:00 Born Gordon Allen German in Aberdeenshire. Father an evangelist in the Plymouth Brethren. Fascination with science. Neuroscience and Freudian psychoanalysis. Scholarship in the Scottish Health Department in brain research, postgraduate in medicine. 00:06:00 Three degrees in three years. Going to London. Chair in East Africa. Taking a Chair in Uganda in 1966. Background in Scottish medicine. Private practitioners working in Perth, Western Australia. Suspicion of academic clinicians in Perth. 00:10:00 Views of Perth private practice. University and private sector. London Postgraduate Institute of Psychiatry. Tradition. Bobby Lewis places graduates all over the world. The Mod Sle. 00:13:00 University splendid but no international standing. Parochial institution in 1962. Comparisons to experiences in Uganda. AMA outcry. Influences coming to UWA. Research programs in the general teaching hospitals in Sir Charles Gairdner and Royal Perth. Interest in mental health of people in third world countries. Difficulty in doing research from Western Australia. Leading authority in mental health problems. Desires for graduates’ futures. Outlining what the thrust in research will be. 00:18:32 Neurophysiology. Studying brain potentials in Perth. Building up neuroscience laboratory. Problems at UWA in 1990s. Fay Gale. Parochial setup in the University. Pride in the research and being placed number one in Australia for research grants. Support of the university to psychology the new science. Interest in how the brain worked. 00:24:26 Coming to Australia. Being deported by Idi Amin. Not wanting to return to England. Cecil Kidd. Applying for the vacant chair in Perth. Isolated university. Parochial university doing good work. Training postgraduate study in psychiatry. Masters in medicine in psychiatry. Fellowship of the Royal Australian and New Zealand College of Psychologists. 00:30:16 Designing a curriculum for Master of Medicine. Postgraduate work taken seriously. Training hospitals Sir Charles Gairdner, Royal Perth, Graylands and Heathcote. Archie Ellis. Registrars as trainees. Ron Kilgard. First rotating training team in the country. Success of the scheme. 00:35:27 Exercise in training and integration, bureaucracies working together. Support from the medical faculty and by Whelan and Prescott. Dean of Medicine Gordon King comes through China. Problems with professorial heads. Fay Gale. More problems. Professors on hospital boards. Hospital boards reprimand the university. Fay dubious about the medical school. Medical can start their own college. Monetary and bureaucratic problems. 00:41:58 Internationalisation of university 1972-1989. Malaysian postgraduate training scheme. Attention overseas for research. The Busselton Study. Advantages in W.A. for epidemiology research. Ambition to move research grants from NHMRC. Large research grants. From last to first in 1993-4. Promotion of research. 00:50:00 Interaction of faculties and collaboration. Skills in science. Conflicts. Fay Gale wants peace. Track 2 00:00:00 Problems. Anatomy should not be outside medicine. Medical students and the Department of Anatomy. Location of Human Anatomy and Science. Becoming more involved in the administrative role at the university. Vice Chancellor’s involvement. Whelan, Smith and the Head of Dentistry and Medicine. Fay Gale wants to devolve money. 00:06:30 Fay calls all the heads together. Her team of deputies. Gale’s ideas for the Dean’s role. Adding of divisions. Elected dean. Head of division in constant contact with ministers. Administrative role. Reasons for resigning from the university. Gale relieved. Delicate areas. 00:11:00 Development of the career. Head of Division Dentistry Medicine 1989. UWA community. Hospital settings and the supportive roles. Evolved dramatically into a major international university. Alan Robson runs the university during Gale’s time. 00:16:00 Development of work, sponsored by the WHO. Standing in the world research of third world mental health. Botswana, Swaziland, Malaysia, India. Developing manifestations of psychosis. Changing cultural experiences. Extent of disease of the brain. Other medical duties in third world countries. 00:23:15 Comparisons of the third world countries and Western Australian indigenous people. Aboriginal patterns of disorder similar to African conditions. Politics comes into delusion. Support from WHO and field work. Psychiatry of Poverty.. Rural and remote health care. Emphasis on funding on the big disciplines of surgery. 00:33:45 Three other areas of interest to develop. Cinderella sciences psychiatry. General practice. Lack of a Department of Public Health. Sir Charles Gairdner and Royal Perth and Fremantle hospitals. Department grows enormously. University medical school benefits. Personal crucial part and input to the university. Promoting self-reliance through devolution. 00:40:45 Achievements in primary health care. Psychoanalytic areas. Super cultural core of clinical psychology. Psychoanalysis was a peculiarity and Austrian, German development. John Wing develops tools. Looking at mental illness in a controlled way. Transatlantic Psychic Study. DSM 1 and DSM 4. The evolution of rational treatments. Powerful cognitive therapy. Putting money into health care. 00:49:49 University assisting the wider community. Extension school. Internationalisation of UWA in the field of psychiatry. Graduates. International figures – Dubansky from Geneva comes to the university. Developments in making a name for the university. 00:55:15 UWA world ranking. A top university in Australia. Alan Robson. Building up of local talent and an outpouring of new graduates psychiatric and medical field. Standing up against Oxford and Cambridge. Interacting with other WA universities. UWA’s current path in research and teaching. Rural and remote education. Technology and health care at a distance. 00:59:30 Online mechanism - Inter Psych. High level medicine from outside the city. Depending on studies and research. Formidable research university. Looking back at UWA. Summing up the experience. Health care and availability. Technologies and flow charts. Developed in Tanzania. Looking back at the growth and education. 01:07:07 Audio Files Links to audio files <a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/1813a7e20e121dc55f67a65d669b8d29.mp3">German, Interview 1, Track 1</a> <br /><a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/c0fef724a6efc484d580a1da8e9166b6.mp3">German, Interview 1, Track 2</a> Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Allen German interview, 4 October 2012 Subject The topic of the resource Medicine; Psychiatry Description An account of the resource Allen German was Professor of Psychiatry and Behavioural Science, Dean of the Faculty of Medicine from 1987 and Head of the Division of Dentistry and Medicine from 1989 at the University of Western Australia. During the interview Allen discusses his extensive career in Psychiatry and his recollections of UWA in association with the development of his career. He looks at the major requirement to develop a modern, undergraduate teaching curriculum in psychiatry, which he sees was achieved despite the department having had expected developments curtailed by the recession of the mid 1970s. He speaks of the postgraduate and professional training he experienced at the university. Allen discusses at some length his personal research and areas of study and career achievements. He looks at the steady decline in funding at the University of Western Australia. He recalls the level of competitive research in Australian Medical Schools in association with the university and its development. He looks at his personal experiences at the University of WA and looks back at his involvement with fondness. Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource German, Allen Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available UWA Historical Society Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource Copyright holder: University of Western Australia Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource MP3 files Type The nature or genre of the resource Oral History Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource UWA ORAL HISTORIES Description An account of the resource A collection of interviews with former UWA staff, recorded by the <a href="http://www.alumni.uwa.edu.au/community/historical-society" target="_blank">UWA Historical Society</a> to mark the Centenary of the University in 2013. <br />The UWA Historical Society’s <a href="http://www.alumni.uwa.edu.au/community/historical-society/oral-histories" target="_blank">Oral History Program</a> started as a project with four oral histories funded from Society resources. It was then expanded with support from every Faculty on campus, the Guild, Convocation and through private donations. Additional funding was received through a Heritage Grant. Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available University of Western Australia Historical Society Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource University of Western Australia Historical Society Oral History A resource containing historical information obtained in interviews with persons having firsthand knowledge. Interviewer The person(s) performing the interview John Bannister Interviewee The person(s) being interviewed Andrew Cole Location The location of the interview Perth, W.A. Duration Length of time involved (seconds, minutes, hours, days, class periods, etc.) Interview 1: 54 minutes, 59 seconds Interview 2: 53 minutes, 34 seconds Interview 3: 1 hour, 51 seconds Total: 2 hours, 49 minutes, 24 seconds Bit Rate/Frequency Rate at which bits are transferred (i.e. 96 kbit/s would be FM quality audio) 128 kbs Time Summary A summary of an interview given for different time stamps throughout the interview Track 1 00:00:00 Andrew Reginald Howard Cole. Family background. Schooling. Education and encouragement. Education was all free. Modern School scholarship and University. Science teachers exhibition. Influence of Modern School and interest in science. Jock Hetherington, Cliff Garrick and Gordon Brown. Developing an interest in science. Elite school and the training of students and aims of university. 00:08:10 Taking up a branch in science. Interest in chemistry. Jock Hetherington and the reputation of the University. Interest in becoming a teacher. Advice from Pips Piper. Origins of the interest in science. Physical sciences and other subjects. Statistical mathematics and chemistry. 00:13:40 Original experiences of UWA and travel from Midland. Josh Reynolds and St George’s College. Memories of St George’s. University senate and UWA and St George’s College students. WWII. An essential stream of study. 00:17:14 Josh Reynolds was very eccentric. Feelings of St George’s College toward the University. Special tutorials at St George’s College. Memories of the day at St George’s College. Academic gowns and the dining hall. Memories of the college common room and study. 00:22:50 Guild of Undergraduates. Essential part of University life. Sport at university and College. Factions and high schools. Cricket at the university. Hockey and Rowing. Sheffield Shield and cricket after the war. Meeting friends from Modern School. Hackett Studentship. 00:28:25 Impact of the second world war at University. American forces at the university. Currie Hall. Bachelor Officers Quarters. Engineering and agricultural school at UWA. Enrolments and returned servicemen. Teaching. BFC. Memories of Noel Bayliss Rhodes Scholar. Research project and interest in chemistry. 00:40:00 Signing a bond to become a science teacher. Doing Honours. Awarded First class honours and going overseas. Working on university grant. Working with Bayliss and Underwood. Spectroscopic research. 00:44:35 Studying at Oxford and Canada and help by Bayliss. First Class Honours and Phase diagram. Study of solubility of one or more substances in water. 00:47:52 Study of Infertility in sheep and trace elements. Spectroscopic methods of analysis. CSIRO working spectroscopy. Lloyd Reece. 00:51:33 Going to England and seeking advice. Infra-red spectroscopy. Oxford or Cambridge. D.Phil. St John’s College. Track 2 00:00:00 Memories of St John’s College. Isolation and the Hackett Scholarship. Noel Bayliss. Memories of the trip. Residing in the college. Comparisons of St John’s and St George’s. Research physical chemistry lab. Tommy Thompson. Memories of research. DPhil. New research infra-red spectroscopy. 00:07:00 Home made spectroscopes. Infra-red spectroscopy description of and comparisons. Examination and thesis. Dr Jack Limit and Professor Ingold. Passing. Cricket and golf. Post doctoral fellowship in Canada. The absorption spectra of polyatomic molecules. 00:13:45 National research council Ottawa. Study of carbon compounds. Use of infra-red spectroscopy. Use of infra red spectroscopy. Wide interest to chemist. Infra-red absorption. Memories of Post Doc. Noel Bayliss encourages return to UWA. 00:18:00 Coming back to Australia. Making of the equipment required. Working in England 1952. Interactions and connections. Derrick Barton Triterpinoids. Infra-red absorption in molecules structure. 00:22:00 Coming back to UWA to set up an IR lab. Comparisons to the other academic institutions. ANZAAS. CSIRO. Availability of equipment. Lloyd Reece, Noel Bayliss and Alec Walsh and physics and chemistry Conference at UWA. Second spectroscopy conference. Nuffield grant. Marriage. 00:26:22 Looking at future career. Stokes leaves as senior lecturer. Becoming a member of the academic staff. Senior lecturer at UWA. 00:27:55 Designing new equipment and techniques. Role as senior lecturer. Specialised work. Recruiting people. Impressions of UWA and setting up the laboratory. Equipment and money. Run of the mill research. Research interests. Equipment needed. 00:33:25 Diffraction grating. Description of equipment. Better equipped lab in WA. Other interests. x-ray diffraction. Small gas molecule. Studying glyoxalin. Study and research student. Publishing annual papers. 00:41:20 Vacuum spectroscopy. Measuring wavelength. High resolution spectroscopy. Seeing UWA’s growing reputation. Interveromiter. Coming of the use of computers. Memories of the early use of computers. 00:45:50 International Union of Pure and Applied Chemistry. Personal involvement in UPAC. Management community. Keeping abreast of work around the world. 00:50:30 Sabbatical leave. 1959. Working overseas. Track 3 00:00:00 Sabbatical leave, travel. Comparisons of UWA with national and overseas universities. New development and attracting academics at UWA. Talents of the research students. Good development in x-ray crystallography. Ted Mazlin*. Collaboration. Planning report. 00:05:15 1969 appointed personal chair. Member of the Australian Academy of Science. Noel Bayliss. Academic plan for the university. University developments. Views of other departments. 00:10:00 Writing submissions. Academic plan 1970-80. Size and enrolment. Research expenditure, staff deficit. Size and numbers and finance. X-ray crystallography 00:13:38 Community of UWA. Fee-paying students and client relationship. HEX fees. Staff/student ratios. Head of Department. Head of Physical and Organic Chemistry. Overseas university and rotating post. Rottnest conferences. Recruitment of staff and looking at courses. 00:22:00 Chairman of the School responsibility. Acting Chief Examiner of public examinations. TAE. University students go out in the world. Dean of Faculty. Award Archibald Olly Prize* 1978. Leyton Memorial Medal. Aust Government Centenary Medal. 00:29:17 Involvement with senate in 1980. The overall running of the university. Memories of personal involvements. Prescott – Whelan* - Street - Gale. Support of senate to chemistry. Grant from other organisation. IUPAC, international involvements, the benefits for university of WA. 00:36:20 Travel. Memories of being chairman of UNESCO conference. Importance of writing papers. Writing text books. Don Watts. Chemical Properties and Reactions. 00:44:20 Training. Science Summer School. Rotary medal. Computers and golf handicaps. Statistical mathematics and golf scores. Looking back at UWA and the Chemistry Department. George Osborne, Andy Green, Frank Honey, many other research students. Hopes for the University. Pace of development. Other universities development. Audio Files Links to audio files <a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/c46cdd0eee0feef375427f12594176dd.mp3">Cole, Interview 1, Track 1</a> <br /><a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/309cb24d3e965d7725366af27e1b0b6a.mp3">Cole, Interview 1, Track 2</a> <br /><a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/d67c21ea1f28e0f1617f616aab4d5315.mp3">Cole, Interview 1, Track 3</a> Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Andrew Cole interview, 14 September 2012 Subject The topic of the resource Chemistry Description An account of the resource During this interview with Professor Andrew ‘Andy’ Cole he discusses his long association with the university. He speaks initially of his student days at the university between 1942-6 having received a Government University Exhibition from Perth Modern School. Cole recollects memories of being a resident at St George’s College. He speaks of individuals that inspired his interest in the university and his study of chemistry. Included are his memories of Josh Reynolds and Professor Noel Bayliss. Senior student at St George’s College, UWA in 1945 he was awarded a Hackett Scholarship for overseas study and spent 1947-9 at St John’s College Oxford. He achieved a DPhil for his thesis entitled The Absorption Spectra of Polyatomic Molecules. Cole also studied in Ottawa before returning to UWA on a Nuffield Research Fellowship in 1952. Between 1955-7 he was senior lecturer in Chemistry at UWA then Reader 1958-68 and Professor of Physics and Head of Department 1971-89. In the interview Andrew outlines a dynamic career at a growing and dynamic university. He speaks at length of the changes that he saw in the Chemistry Department many of which he instigated through his work and drive. He speaks of his involvement with research in spectroscopy and infrared. He outlines his work with the CSIRO and IUPAC international Union of Pure and Applied Chemistry. Cole speaks of the future planning and path at the University, a subject he wrote about in 1980 in a report suggesting a plan for University’s development. Many of his suggestions for the university have been implemented. Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource Cole, Andrew Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available University of Western Australia Historical Society Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource Copyright holder University of Western Australia Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource MP3 files Type The nature or genre of the resource Oral History Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource UWA ORAL HISTORIES Description An account of the resource A collection of interviews with former UWA staff, recorded by the <a href="http://www.alumni.uwa.edu.au/community/historical-society" target="_blank">UWA Historical Society</a> to mark the Centenary of the University in 2013. <br />The UWA Historical Society’s <a href="http://www.alumni.uwa.edu.au/community/historical-society/oral-histories" target="_blank">Oral History Program</a> started as a project with four oral histories funded from Society resources. It was then expanded with support from every Faculty on campus, the Guild, Convocation and through private donations. Additional funding was received through a Heritage Grant. Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available University of Western Australia Historical Society Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource University of Western Australia Historical Society Oral History A resource containing historical information obtained in interviews with persons having firsthand knowledge. Interviewer The person(s) performing the interview John Bannister Interviewee The person(s) being interviewed Ann Tarca Duration Length of time involved (seconds, minutes, hours, days, class periods, etc.) Interview 1: 53 minutes, 27 seconds Interview 2: 56 minutes, 11 seconds Interview 3: 9 minutes, 58 seconds Total: 1 hour, 59 minutes, 36 seconds Bit Rate/Frequency Rate at which bits are transferred (i.e. 96 kbit/s would be FM quality audio) 128 kbs Time Summary A summary of an interview given for different time stamps throughout the interview Track 1 00:00:00 Ann Tarca born in Perth 1955. Family background. Mother was unusual and was educated at Perth Modern School. Influence to come to university. Muriel Bird. Mother’s job as speech and drama teacher. Mother’s career. 00:04:20 Love of learning and reading – memories of school. No links to private school; University of privilege. Coming to the University to see theatre. Festival of Perth. Mother was modest. AMEB. Trinity College London. Exams held at AMEB. Natural progression to go to University. 00:07:15 Window to the world. Contemporary terms 14 year old different then. No technology. Life revolved around family. Australian newspaper. Max Harris and Phillip Adams. Going to the theatre and connecting with the world. University was the connection to the arts and the world. Life growing up. Aspirations of the family and mother’s influence. 00:10:23 Coming to the university to study writing and literature. Passion was literature and words. Ambitions. Being able to come to university. Commonwealth scholarship. No fees – given funds. Seismic shift. Teacher Raymond Omodei was big in theatre. Studying arts at UWA. Options for women. Striking out to study economics. 00:14:30 Transition from high school to university not such a smooth situation. Sense of community. Whitlam a time for change. Sitting on the Reid Library Wall. Culture. Realities of coming to university. Interests at university and the atmosphere. Money and transport. Passing and failing. Economics course. Mathematics and stats. 00:19:50 Inspiration. Leaving and returning to study accounting. Sensible planning. Studying anthropology. Working full-time and studying part-time. Phil Hancock. Meeting interesting people: Terry Walter, Richard Fale. Transformed person. Appreciating the people. Accounting major. Big classes. Not knowing the lecturer. Strong presence of women. Lots of overseas students. Ruth Johnson. 00:24:14 Real interest in management. Ruth Johnson’s story. The passion for what she did – standing up for the rights of working people. Thought and direction for self and future career. Thoughts of doing law. 00:26:43 Differences. Inspiring people. Looking for work. Working in an accounting firm. Marriage. Working part-time. Teaching in Karratha. Coming back to Perth. Enjoying teaching. Connection at Curtin. Husband’s encouragement to come to UWA. Loyalties and personal random choice. Accounting. 00:32:00 Reputation of UWA. Aim to work at UWA enrolling in a master’s course. UWA: premier university. Murdoch and Curtin. Lack of knowledge. Calibre of Curtin. Philip Brown. Experiences of coming back to UWA in 1996. Differences. Personal success. Enrolling in Masters of Industrial Relations. 00:36:57 Break from study. Doors open and random events. Lack of networking. Engaging with cohort and lecturers. Izan head of department of finance. Changes. Philip Brown. Dropping finance units. Ian Scarnon. Finance and accounting units. Experience of Phillip Brown. Passionate patient encouraging person. Accountants are not mathematicians. Experience of working in accounting in 1980s. 00:42:55 Challenges and encouragement. Research methods. Tutoring in finance. Scholars stand out. International accounting standards. Accounting standards and experience of research. Brian Howieson. Masters and PhD. 00:46:40 Academic career and research. Higher degrees. Masters reading and writing. Research. Teaching. Changes between staff and student observed. Campus and university experience. Overseas students. Huge classes in 1996. Commerce and engineering. Sense of community in accounting finance. Staff member – Mark Holub. Credit to Izan. Help from other staff. Meetings and integration. Serious career move and focus. Supporting people. Brian Howieson, David Woodliff and collegiality. Publishing and researching. Track 2 00:00:00 Talking about Izan. Head of department Accounting & Finance. Reputation – Dr Ken Clements. The group with Izan and Philip Brown leading was emerging. Setting up Accounting & Finance. Large numbers training and supervising. Everybody speaks highly of Izan. Teaching supervising and administering. Mature age PhD. 00:05:30 Returning to reading, writing and presenting. Seminar at the University of Queensland. University presenting itself to other institutions. High standards. Engagement with international colleagues. 00:09:00 Identifying research areas. Thesis and Masters programme. Things learned from colleagues. Publishing a defining element in an academic career. Accounting theory and of international accounting standards. Important career development. Marketing of work. Academic community. Winning awards. Technology. Research impact. Getting paper published. Impact factor of a journal. 00:15:15 Most impacting changes in the school. Connection with the library and online databases. Effect of technology on personal work. International accounting standards. 2005 good outward focus. Looking to other Universities worldwide. Rising up the ranks at UWA by demonstrating international impact. Sabbatical year. New set of interests and ideas. 00:19:50 Important areas that need to be addressed. Laws are entrenched in accounting and industry. International accounting standards. US litigious place compared to Australia. Seeing departments interacting in the campus and beyond. Business School connected to the community. Business School looking to the future connection and linkage grants. Drawing from the business community in Perth. 00:24:33 Connections with Ernst & Young. Learning and practice. Contributing to linking the University to the community. The University being seen by the community. Strategy and structural changes enable travel. Support for academics at UWA. Increasing pressures on academics. Money that is available. Resources and decisions that affect the Business School. A disconnect with the big organisation and academics. 00:30:17 Alan Robson. Calibre of academics. Alan Robson’s vision for the University. Barry Marshall and his experiments. Career-defining moment. Making self American. Staying true to self. University going up the ranks. 00:35:20 Interaction with other countries. UWA and Japan and China. Raymond Da Silva Rosa. Accounting and Finance collaborate. Connecting with people at conferences. Visits by David Yermack. Converging views to accounting standards: views from Japan. People doing a lot with very little. Successful grant applications. Needing international input. Mr Kaniko from Japan. 00:40:25 The grand slam of accounting presentations. United States and Australian grand slam. Converging accounting and drawing people in from other countries. Japan Switzerland, New Zealand, England. One on one relations and collaborations. Accounting theory 7th edition. 00:42:16 Being head of discipline. Future needs and reflections on Accounting and Finance – not attracting the best. Jean Paul Carvalho. Exporting people onto the world stage. Attracting people into accounting. Major problems with attracting people. Issues of the baby boom bump. Attracting people to the academic world. Things have gone badly wrong. Support from the accounting profession. Teaching is a skill. Teaching is more professional – the skills of teaching. 00:48:48 Drying up of student numbers. Australia benefits enormously from Asia. The goose that laid the golden egg. Big university online university courses. lectures and the engaging of students. Students opting out. Education is about being in a room and debating. Virtual world vs. interaction with people. Challenges to deliver materials and engaging students. Resource pressure. Good quality staff. Benefits of classes on line. Cohort of students that will do the minimum. Track 3 00:00:00 Concerns and encouraging and supporting and fostering the staff. Conflicting goals. Business School money going elsewhere. Student numbers. Vicky Karagiannis and people in the service role. Close relationships in the supporting role. Competing objectives. Multiple goals. Being good corporate citizens and connecting in the community. Teaching and research. Research and teaching pressures with large student numbers. Taking resources away from the Business School. 00:05:17 Going ahead and attracting people and money. Asking for transparency and equity. Recognition. Business schools used as a cash cow. Addressing competing goals. Working 7 days a week. Looking back over student days and staff member. Fan of UWA. Proud of the University’s achievements. Punching above weight. Proud of the quality of the students. Academic staff are guiding and bringing out the best of students. Feelings of privilege. 00:09:58 Audio Files Links to audio files <a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/ab3051c0dec29f0980bb156e7fb52398.mp3">Tarca, Interview 1, Track 1</a> <br /><a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/52ecdf7a33bc98cd76a2687966ef3809.mp3">Tarca, Interview 1, Track 2</a> <br /><a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/b54eab99a12aadb232b72fce802c7bae.mp3">Tarca, Interview 1, Track 3</a> Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Ann Tarca interview, 5 October 2012 Subject The topic of the resource Accounting and Finance Description An account of the resource This is an interview with Ann Tarca who studied at the University of Western Australia later qualifying as a chartered accountant. She worked in the state public service in Karratha and taught at Karratha College before returning to UWA where she obtained her Master of Accounting and PhD. Ann’s teaching interests include financial accounting and she is a co-author of the leading accounting textbook Godfrey, Hodgson, Holmes and Tarca (2006) Accounting Theory 6th Edition. Ann’s research focuses on international accounting, the adoption of international accounting standards and the regulation of financial reporting, particularly the harmonisation and enforcement of reporting requirements at an international level. She has published in well recognised international and Australian journals and has an author ranking in the world’s top 2% on the Social Sciences Research Network database. Career highlights include holding one of the inaugural KPMG/IAAER research grants (for a project on reporting financial performance) and winning the Blackwell’s/Synergy Award for the most downloaded paper in the Journal of International Financial Management and Accounting in 2006 and 2007 for her 2004 paper entitled “International convergence of accounting practices: Choosing between IAS and US GAAP”. During the interview Ann talks of the development of her career. She speaks of the changes that she has seen to the University of Western Australia. The focus of the discussion is how she has seen the running of the Business School and the department of Accounting and Finance. She speaks at length of the University’s international standing and where she sees its future approaching its 100th anniversary. Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource Tarca, Ann Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available University of Western Australia Historical Society Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource Copyright holder University of Western Australia Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource MP3 files Type The nature or genre of the resource Oral History Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource UWA ORAL HISTORIES Description An account of the resource A collection of interviews with former UWA staff, recorded by the <a href="http://www.alumni.uwa.edu.au/community/historical-society" target="_blank">UWA Historical Society</a> to mark the Centenary of the University in 2013. <br />The UWA Historical Society’s <a href="http://www.alumni.uwa.edu.au/community/historical-society/oral-histories" target="_blank">Oral History Program</a> started as a project with four oral histories funded from Society resources. It was then expanded with support from every Faculty on campus, the Guild, Convocation and through private donations. Additional funding was received through a Heritage Grant. Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available University of Western Australia Historical Society Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource University of Western Australia Historical Society Oral History A resource containing historical information obtained in interviews with persons having firsthand knowledge. Interviewer The person(s) performing the interview Julia Wallis Interviewee The person(s) being interviewed Annette Goerke Location The location of the interview City Beach, W.A. Duration Length of time involved (seconds, minutes, hours, days, class periods, etc.) Interview 1: 37 minutes, 45 seconds Interview 2: 48 minutes, 22 seconds Total: 1 hour, 26 minutes, 7 seconds Bit Rate/Frequency Rate at which bits are transferred (i.e. 96 kbit/s would be FM quality audio) 128 kbs Time Summary A summary of an interview given for different time stamps throughout the interview Interview 1 Track 1 00:00 Introduction by Julia Wallis 00:43 Track 2 00:00 Born Maureen Annette Parkes in Perth in 1938, the youngest of six children. Spent her childhood in the country. Learnt to play the piano and went to about 8 different schools (4 of them boarding). 00:30 The last two years of secondary school was done at Santa Maria College in Attadale. By 1955, her leaving year, she was up to the AMEB Associate Diploma. 01:14 Track 3 00:00 Musical education at Santa Maria was very broad. Annette Goerke (AG) was also given the opportunity to accompany the school choir and to take part in musical productions. 00:58 Left school in 1955 but was invited to become the organist at St Mary’s Cathedral in her final year at school. Father Albert Lynch was her teacher. He founded the liturgical all male cathedral choir in 1938. At this time, he was the Parish priest at Applecross. He was a hard task master but very supportive until his death in 1976. 03:05 St Mary’s just had one appointment as cathedral organist. 03:41 AG spent the first year after leaving school learning the organ. She also had piano lessons with Alice Carrard. The previous cathedral organist came on occasionally to assist in her first few months. 04:30 The next year AG decided she had to earn some money to supplement the 2 guineas a month she earned as cathedral organist (plus weddings). She enrolled at Underwood Business College in Murray Street, close to Forrest Place (next to Bairds Department Store) in order to do part-time secretarial work. In the middle of the year when the course was completed the college asked her to teach typewriting by the principal, Miss Watson who was a lover of classical music. They also allowed her to fulfil her commitments at the cathedral. 06:01 Track 4 00:00 In her free time AG liked dancing. She met her husband at a church social group dance. They were married in 1960. They lived in a flat in Terrace Drive near the Christian Brothers College (now occupied by the Duxton Hotel). AG played for the morning cathedral choir practices and then walked on to work at Underwood Business College. She continued to do this until about 1963. In 1963 they decided to start building their present home in City Beach. 01:40 At that time married women often gave up work. The previous cathedral organist gave up playing when she got married. When AG expressed the wish to continue playing at the cathedral this was accepted and agreed. 02:48 In about 1963, some work was done on the cathedral organ. This was badly needed. It was renovated, enlarged and relocated from the west end gallery to the south transept. 04:09 This made the instrument more reliable and enabled AG to audition for the ABC and do broadcasts. 04:33 Before the renovation work, ciphers (notes) would stick and made playing it quite traumatic. The ABC came to hear AG playing the organ at the cathedral. 05:49 At this time church services were broadcast on ABC radio regularly. St Mary’s high mass at 11am was broadcast on the first Sunday of every month. 07:14 Track 5 00:00 1965 doing regular broadcasts at the ABC. Hoping for children but they didn’t arrive so in 1966 AG decided to enrol for a Bachelor of Music degree in composition at UWA. There was a quota system in place. 01:25 The degree could be done part-time. Professor Callaway interviewed AG and advised her to enrol in 3 of the 4 First Year units to have a better chance of selection. 02:20 AG was accepted and was only a couple of months into her study when she discovered that she was pregnant. In the six years she was studying, AG had 3 daughters. She was very busy as she was studying and playing at St Mary’s and doing recital broadcasts for the ABC and was orchestral organist and soloist with WASO . She also did lunchtime recitals at UWA. This was only made possible by the support of her husband and family. 03:41 The minimum time was spent at University – just lectures and tutorials. Many of the students were part-time and the lectures were often scheduled after 4pm. The listening and studying could be done at home. She was not a typical 1960s university student and didn’t take part in student activities such as PROSH. 05:27 Many of the Bachelor of Music degree students were mature age and part-time. 05:48 Track 6 00:00 The Music Department was located in Tuart House at the corner of Mounts Bay Road and Crawley Avenue. It used to be the Vice Chancellor’s residence. It was an idyllic location. Next door was the Zoology Department. 00:53 Many of the rooms were small and no doubt staff looked forward to moving to purpose-built premises (which they did in 1976). 01:28 A larger lecture theatre had been built onto the back of the building. The library was also located here. 02:27 Most of the students doing the Bachelor of Music composition degree at this time were mature-age, studying part-time and were professional performers. These included Graham Wood, Ashley Arbuckle (violin); John Dean (viola); Peter Finch (clarinet & saxophone); Wendy Nash; Frank Arndt; Wallace Tate. 03:17 Younger students who were doing the music core units as part of their degree would spend considerable time on the main campus. Those doing the Bachelor of Music would do one non-music unit out of 14. This meant that the music department in Tuart House was almost self-contained. 04:07 It was a very broad course covering history of music, interpretation of early music, ethnomusicology, orchestration and instrumentation, musicianship, keyboard work as well as composition and writing in various styles. These composition units were principally one-to-one lectures or tutorials. 04:48 Frank Callaway was head of department and there were about 6 full time staff including David Tunley, David Symons, John Hind (university organist), Laughton Harris and Sally Kester. 05:50 Track 7 00:00 Assessment took the form of weekly oral tests, assignments, major essays and end of year exams. 00:31 The oral testing gave the students an idea of how they were doing. The composition units were working one to one with the teacher so students were clear on how they were progressing. There were also listening tests. 01:41 AG cannot remember anybody failing the course. The students were scrutinised before they were allowed to undertake the degree. 02:19 Due to the close relationship with staff, students could always discuss any problems they might be having. If the students had problems it is more likely that they would be made aware of them rather than the other way around. 02:42 Track 8 00:00 Winston Churchill Memorial Trust established in Australia in 1965. The aim of the trust was to give opportunities for overseas study that is no available in Australia. There are no prescribed qualifications. Merit is the primary criteria plus the extent to which the applicant’s work will benefit the Australian community. It is expected that the fellow will return to Australia and apply the knowledge that is gained from their Fellowship. This is a condition of the award. 01:58 AG was in her last year at UWA in 1971 when she put in an application. At the time she had a four year old, a two year old and a baby who was only a few weeks old. Her husband had agreed to come with her and help with the children. She had to get a release from the cathedral and they agreed as long as she was present for the Easter ceremonies and back by Christmas. 02:49 Referees were the Catholic Archbishop of Perth, Father Albert Lynch and John Hind, the university organist. David Tunley and Professor Callaway also lent their support. A mutual friend, Molly McGurk, had been awarded a Churchill Fellowship and advised on the application. 03:46 You had to state in the application what you were going to do. In AG’s case, advanced organ studies with Marie-Claire Alain in Paris and to attend the international summer academy for organists in Harlem in the Netherlands. AG was interested in the interpretation of 17th, early 18th century music (covered so well in theory at UWA by David Tunley). This study in Paris gave that theory practical knowledge to play the instruments for which that music was written (the French Baroque). 04:38 It led to her buying a 22-stop organ for home based on the classical French design. It has been good for her students to hear those French sounds. 05:03 AG was away for nearly a year and benefited greatly from that concentrated study. She believes that she has passed this knowledge on. 05:32 Master classes in Harlem also invaluable. Studied the works of Bach with Anton Heiller and contemporary music with Werner Jacob. Had the opportunity to play on the modern and historical instruments during that summer academy during those three weeks. There was also a wide range of music available for purchase. 06:22 The non-teaching break following Harlem gave her the opportunity to visit places such as St Marks in Venice, Wagner’s Festspielhaus in Bayreuth, and St Bach’s Thomas Church in Leipzig etc. During the six months in Paris she had the opportunity to listen to Olivier Messiaen play at La Trinité each Sunday. 07:09 Track 9 00:00 Reflecting back on studying at UWA. It inspired AG to go overseas for further study. The units covering orchestration and instrumentation were extremely useful in later life. 01:04 Interview 2 Track 1 00:00 Introduction by Julia Wallis 00:29 Track 2 00:00 Return from Europe in 1973. University organist John Hind was to take sabbatical leave and Professor Callaway requested that AG act in his absence and teach his performance students and any new enrolments. This was her first experience of teaching but felt confident enough to do so after her Churchill Fellowship. Also did some part time harmony assignment marking and tutoring of another unit in the Music Department. 01:18 Gave a number of lunchtime recitals at UWA for the music society. Also started recording for the ABC with WASO’s principal trumpet, Kevin Johnson. Also did some ABC broadcasts. 01:41 Also involved in a project with the organist of St George’s Cathedral, Michael Wentzell to play the complete organ works of Bach. Michael was the President of the Organ Society at this time and AG was Vice President. Due to his sudden death in 1973 the work was not completed. 02:13 At the end of 1973 AG was appointed Director of Music at St Mary’s Cathedral assuming responsibility for the choir as well as being organist. The children were aged 6, 4 and 2 at the time. 02:36 The teaching at UWA was individual performance lessons and would be negotiated according to the student’s timetable and her availability. The Department was still located at Tuart House and things had not change much while AG was away in Europe. 03:12 Track 3 00:00 AG’s Graduation Ceremony took place when she was in Paris 1972. The first UWA organist was Michael Brimer who was a lecturer in music from 1962 to 1965. He gave the opening recital on the McGillvray Organ in January 1965. He gave other recitals which were very well attended. 00:59 John Hind followed from 1966 to 1981. Both Michael and John were full time members of staff in the Music Department. When AG was appointed in 1982 she had served as Acting Organist on two occasions. She continued in this position during the 1980s. She took a break in the 1990s. They didn’t appoint a University Organist in this time but used guest organists. AG started playing again in the late 1990s when she left St Mary’s Cathedral and was officially reappointed in 2002. 02:13 The conditions have changed over that time. The organist plays for all University graduations and official ceremonies and give advice on the use of the organ. The volume of work has risen considerably. There used to be 4 graduations a year and a University Sunday service. There is no longer a Sunday service but in 2013 there were 17 or 18 graduation ceremonies split over two seasons. 03:23 Previously the Music Department had to be advised about the use of the organ in Winthrop Hall by non-University hirers, today it is a commercial venue administered by University Theatres. [Pause to allow garbage truck to go past]. 04:05 Requirement for graduations was to play a short recital before the ceremony began. It was free choice and AG could play more secular music. Procession music would be similar to what was played at St Mary’s Cathedral. 04:47 Track 4 00:00 AG has played for graduations of ex-students she taught, ex choir boys from St Mary’s Cathedral and their parents who did further education as well as relatives. 00:51 UWA music Bachelor of Music degree was now available in performance and music education. 01:32 AG began teaching organ students in 1973. Her part time tutoring had to stop at the end of 1973 due to her appointment as Director of Music at St Mary’s Cathedral. She always continued to teach students in organ performance and still does. 02:12 There were a number of mature age students who she remained in contact with. Many have since moved overseas and they meet up quite regularly in Paris. 02:47 Australia has had some very good organists. It is easy to study the organ if there is something at the end of it. It is difficult to get work as an organist unless you are going into a church position. It is hard to make your career as a concert organist. 04:14 Track 5 00:00 ABC recital work continued on her return from Europe and continued for 25 years until the cathedral organ became unreliable for broadcast recording. 01:09 By this time the ABC was starting to cut back in that area. From mid-1960 to 1990 it had been a heyday for recording organ musical programmes. There were many musical programmes broadcast on the radio. 02:37 At the end of 1972 AG began working with Graham Johnson the principal trumpeter at WASO. They did many trumpet and organ broadcasts and concerts. Also with the Perth Chamber Brass. 03:09 Ray Irving from the ABC Music Department was a great support and a fantastic mentor. He liked the combination of brass and organ. Ray died in early 2013. A few later AG’s French organ teacher, Marie-Claire Alain also died. 04:34 Track 6 00:00 AG started doing lunchtime recitals at UWA in 1968 quite independently of her University studies. She played at Winthrop and did a number of concerts for the University Music Society often playing with visiting overseas trumpet players such as Gordon Reid (NZ), Edward Tarr (USA), and Graham Ashton (UK). 00:57 AG has kept up an association with concerts at UWA through the recent “Keyed Up” concert series and others. A CD of UWA musical treasures was produced for the UWA Centenary. 01:52 Through the lunchtime recital series she was able to introduce audiences to many large scale organ works such as Charles Camilleri's 'Missa Mundi', Petr Eben's 'Faust' and 'Job' and in particular the works of Olivier Messiaen. AG’s association with Olivier Messiaen goes back to her first recital at St Mary’s in 1963 and has since played most of his works. AG had never heard any recording of La Nativité but was assisted by Father Lynch. 03:17 While in Paris in 1972, AG was able to listen to Olivier Messiaen play every Sunday at Eglise de la Trinité. 03:27 AG gave the first WA performances of his later lengthy works in Winthrop Hall. She also recorded his works for the ABC. 03:56 Recent recitals of Messiaen’s music have been associated with anniversaries. He died in 1992. On the first anniversary of his death, AG was invited to give a memorial recital for the Melbourne International Festival of Organ and Harpsichord held in St Patrick’s Cathedral. In 1996, the Festival of Perth featured a lot of his music but not organ music. 05:03 AG decided to do a 3pm recital at St Mary’s and make the link between Messiaen’s music and religious inspiration playing under the stained glass windows. He is highly regarded as an original composer and teacher of composition and analysis. 07:16 The next anniversary in 2002 was the 10th anniversary of his death. AG gave a recital in Winthrop Hall and recorded a CD on the McGillvray organ entitled “Resurrection”. 07:43 The last anniversary was the 100th anniversary of his birth in 2008. 08:06 Track 7 00:00 The organ at Winthrop Hall was acoustically different to the one at St Mary’s. St Mary’s was more romantic and the McGillvray organ more classical. 00:46 It was easy to get an audience at Winthrop for recitals of Messiaen’s music. However 800 people came to the recital in 1996 at St Mary’s (probably due to the publicity by the Perth Festival of his works). 02:00 Organ students at UWA had to practice where they could find an organ. It was not easy. A tracker action mechanical instrument is the ideal. Both Winthrop and St Mary’s had electrical action. Trinity College in East Perth has been very generous in allowing students to practice on their organ and for examinations. This was built by the same person who built AG’s organ at home. 03:24 Many of the matured aged students were already playing at a church so they could practice and use that organ for examinations. 03:40 It was always difficult to book practice time in Winthrop Hall even for students’ final recitals as there was always something happening there. During exams the hall of the Undercroft was virtually out of bounds. This made things very challenging. 04:29 Track 8 00:00 AG’s work with WASO – orchestral organist and soloist. The venue for WASO concerts from about 1967 was Winthrop Hall. Prior to this they used the Capitol Theatre in William Street, Perth. The Perth Concert Hall was opened in 1973. In 1969 WASO did the first performance of the Poulenc organ concerto at Winthrop. AG was soloist for the Poulenc concerto and a Handel organ concerto. AG gave the first WA performance of the Poulenc concerto in 1967 with an amateur orchestra in the Trinity Congregational Church. 02:06 Over the years AG had many opportunities as a soloist, two in the Concert Hall were televised in 1984 and 1985. Doing solo work with WASO was readily available at that time. Then things dried up. 03:19 When AG was a student a lot of her fellow students were from WASO. They were matured aged students and weren’t studying performance at UWA. Standards are very high but it is possible for UWA performance students to join WASO if they have enough talent. Many of them go to ANAM and work in a training orchestra first. 04:32 AG has played with WASO when the score requires the use of an organ. In 1997 went on an Eastern States tour. Concerts were given in the Sydney Opera House and the Melbourne Concert Hall. AG was given practice time to familiarise herself with those organs which were vastly different to the ones she had been used to. The organ at the Sydney Opera House was a Ron Sharp organ (the same as in the Perth Concert Hall). The organ in Melbourne was very different and was of French design. 06:50 AG is not sure if the tour was initiated by WASO or whether they were invited. 07:25 Track 9 00:00 The Festival of Perth started when AG was about 15 years old. In the 1960s there were programmes as part of the Festival called “Music in the Churches”. In 1965 for the first time there was an organ in a public venue – Winthrop Hall. Michael Brimer gave an all Bach recital for the Festival. 02:03 From then on the Festival regularly brought international organists to Perth to give recitals on that instrument. Gillian Weir was just beginning her career, whereas E Power Biggs was coming to the end of his. Others included Marilyn Mason, Nicholas Danby, Susi Jeans, and Jennifer Bate. Some returned 2 or 3 times. Organ recitals were in their heyday and well patronised. 02:54 Winthrop Hall was not air conditioned which made things challenging for the artist, the audience and the instrument itself! 03:22 The recitals at UWA continued until 1977 when the new Sharp instrument in the Perth Concert Hall was used (4 years after the Concert Hall opened. 03:56 Organists featured less frequently in Festival of Perth programmes from 1977 until it became quite rare to have an organ recital in the Festival. 04:52 In 1968, Gillian Weir was just starting her career. In 1977 when the Perth Concert Hall was inaugurated she was engaged to play at that opening ceremony and subsequently to give one of the two Perth Festival solo recitals on the newly installed Ronald Sharp instrument. They also gave AG an opportunity to do the second. 05:44 Gillian Weir also visited the UWA Music Department as musician in residence. She performed the complete organ works of J S Bach in 14 recitals on the McGillvray organ. She also conducted Master Classes. 06:05 The artist in residence scheme had been inaugurated at UWA just a few years earlier in about 1973. Distinguished international musicians joined the teaching staff of the Music Department as visitors. In addition to their teaching programmes they performed public recitals. 06:35 Gilliam Weir returned the next year as well (1978) and did 7 recitals. In 1979 Gillian Weir returned again and was Chief Adjudicator in the organ division of the National Eisteddfod that was held in Perth. It was a major project for the State’s 150th anniversary celebrations. She played harpsichord and organ as well as lecturing. 07:30 UWA has been very fortunate to have Gillian return so frequently. She came back for another Festival of Perth in 1987 where she gave recitals in the Perth Concert Hall and St George’s Cathedral. Gillian has been Patron of the local Organ Society for many years. She has only recently retired from her career as a concert organist. 08:55 Track 10 00:00 1996 Awarded Papal award ‘Crucem Pro Ecclesia et Pontifice’ in recognition for her 40 years’ service to St Mary’s Cathedral. AG took Long Service Leave from the cathedral after 43 years’ service and this prompted her to retire. It was quite daunting as she had been there since she was 16 years old and had a strong personal family connection to the Cathedral. However retiring from St Mary’s had given her opportunities to pursue other interests. 02:32 At this time AG started playing for a number of ceremonies at UWA encouraged by Peter Leunig who was working at the Office of Development at that time. She did all the graduations in 2001 and accepted the role of University organist again officially in 2002. 03:06 She was very honoured to receive a Chancellor’s Medal in 2004 in recognition of service to the community and UWA. 03:27 There is a family tradition of studying music at UWA. AG’s daughter Trish did a Bachelor of Music at UWA and now her grandson Jonty (Trish’s son) is about to enter the Music Department of UWA as a student in 2014. He has been awarded a Tunley Scholarship. Trish and Jonty both play the flute. Trish was taught by David Tunley’s wife Paula. AG feels very much part of the UWA family. 06:11 Audio Files Links to audio files <a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/71aff29d77427615d0bfce767ce7253d.mp3">Goerke, Interview 1, Track 1</a> <br /><a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/840194cb39841c30a7342be9375eca77.mp3">Goerke, Interview 1, Track 2</a> <br /><a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/b4bdd26b9e90e4aa88de5dd43945ad5a.mp3">Goerke, Interview 1, Track 3</a> <br /><a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/c4caf25c8f95fe1db0f286fa61a11a3f.mp3">Goerke, Interview 1, Track 4</a> <br /><a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/316eda38156068e56b819e2a620d7681.mp3">Goerke, Interview 1, Track 5</a> <br /><a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/17f077e3da47316fc3abdb2b7deec29c.mp3">Goerke, Interview 1, Track 6</a> <br /><a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/0c2783b5eb8f39f248ad2ae01f72d8ef.mp3">Goerke, Interview 1, Track 7</a> <br /><a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/b8d2a639ffc92508aca003424a1689b8.mp3">Goerke, Interview 1, Track 8</a> <br /><a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/5d6fec2052c9dc49c949a27c624eccb2.mp3">Goerke, Interview 1, Track 9</a> <br /><a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/81c069d9eafceff07349b65240353cc6.mp3">Goerke, Interview 2, Track 1</a> <br /><a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/977ff448630e047ccf86096008864410.mp3">Goerke, Interview 2, Track 2</a> <br /><a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/4cfeb7dceed92e5e985d818a92a7d4c3.mp3">Goerke, Interview 2, Track 3</a> <br /><a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/1d9305a3316b314580b3476ea15075cf.mp3">Goerke, Interview 2, Track 4</a> <br /><a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/f2f4d4a4957be1bdcabcbdf2509dfc1b.mp3">Goerke, Interview 2, Track 5</a> <br /><a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/0fec06192492248b1b2272474bb605aa.mp3">Goerke, Interview 2, Track 6</a> <br /><a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/f0a601ba27b63ce4449e552441368782.mp3">Goerke, Interview 2, Track 7</a> <br /><a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/82a10cf39e78917f9411abd5bd9bb36c.mp3">Goerke, Interview 2, Track 8</a> <br /><a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/7184179cfe4f53ad2712628631555905.mp3">Goerke, Interview 2, Track 9</a> <br /><a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/b596c428ae709c9c09d37bf18df20094.mp3">Goerke, Interview 2, Track 10</a> Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Annette Goerke interview, 13 January 2014 and 20 January 2014 Subject The topic of the resource Music Description An account of the resource Annette Goerke was appointed organist at St Mary's Roman Catholic Cathedral in Perth, Western Australia at the age of 17. After 18 years as Cathedral organist, she was appointed Director of Music assuming responsibility for the choir in addition to playing duties and continued with this dual role for a further 25 years. A graduate of the University of Western Australia, she has maintained her association with the University through teaching for the School of Music, as University organist and as a regular recitalist. Annette’s awards include the Papal award 'Crucem Pro Ecclesia et Pontifice' for her services to St Mary’s Cathedral and a Churchill Fellowship for advanced organ studies. She regularly performed in recital broadcasts for a number of Australian Broadcasting Corporation programmes and has also appeared with the West Australia Symphony Orchestra. Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource Goerke, Annette Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available University of Western Australia Historical Society Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource Copyright holder University of Western Australia Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource MP3 files Type The nature or genre of the resource Oral History Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource UWA ORAL HISTORIES Description An account of the resource A collection of interviews with former UWA staff, recorded by the <a href="http://www.alumni.uwa.edu.au/community/historical-society" target="_blank">UWA Historical Society</a> to mark the Centenary of the University in 2013. <br />The UWA Historical Society’s <a href="http://www.alumni.uwa.edu.au/community/historical-society/oral-histories" target="_blank">Oral History Program</a> started as a project with four oral histories funded from Society resources. It was then expanded with support from every Faculty on campus, the Guild, Convocation and through private donations. Additional funding was received through a Heritage Grant. Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available University of Western Australia Historical Society Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource University of Western Australia Historical Society Oral History A resource containing historical information obtained in interviews with persons having firsthand knowledge. Interviewer The person(s) performing the interview Julia Wallis Interviewee The person(s) being interviewed Annie Fogarty Duration Length of time involved (seconds, minutes, hours, days, class periods, etc.) 47 minutes, 12 seconds Bit Rate/Frequency Rate at which bits are transferred (i.e. 96 kbit/s would be FM quality audio) 128 kbs Time Summary A summary of an interview given for different time stamps throughout the interview Track 1 00:00 Introduction by Julia Wallis 01:18 Track 2 00:00 Annie Fogarty. Born Elizabeth Anne Walter in South Africa. Came to Western Australia in 1963, aged 3. Annie’s father worked at UWA as an accountant for the Student Guild. She recalls the lovely grounds when visiting her father at Hackett Hall until the Guild Village was built. Mr Walter loved worked there. Annie expected to study at UWA after attending Claremont Demonstration Primary School and Hollywood High School. She was invited to attend Hollywood which was a special maths school. The school had a good relationship with UWA and the pupils went to some special classes in maths at UWA. 03:00 Annie enrolled at UWA in 1978. She had planned to be a journalist but studied Psychology and Anthropology in her first year. In second year she switched to English and English Literature and majored in English Literature. She also studied Economics and Italian. There was a lively Psychology lecturer who gave quite a performance in the Octagon Theatre. Peter Cohen was an English tutor. Annie played tennis and socialised on campus. She caught the bus to UWA and stayed the day. In third year she had only 7 hours of contact hours which enable her to work part-time. There was not much career counselling. She had planned to be a journalist but ended up using her writing skills in marketing and public affairs after graduating with a Bachelor of Arts in 1981. 09:08 It was not difficult to find work. She worked as a flight attendant for Ansett for a year which enabled her to see Australia. She returned to Perth to work for the Energy Commission for 5 years in public affairs. She wrote press releases and organised country shows. Then she worked as the Entertainment and Promotions Manager on Great Keppel Island, Queensland. She travelled around Queensland for about 5 months before returning to Perth and enrolling in an arts management course with WAPA. She got a job as trainee manager with the Perth Theatre Trust. After that, she worked as marketing manager at Underwater World in Hillarys (now AQWA). She started the first Whale Watch trips in Western Australia. By now, she was married and left when she was pregnant with her first child. Annie did some marketing work with the Perth Heat baseball team while she was raising her children. 15:08 When the children started school she and her husband Brett started to talk about starting a family foundation that would be community focussed. They started Fogarty Foundation in 2000 to give something back to the community. They realised how important education was and wanted to give opportunities to those who might not otherwise have them. The Fogarty Foundation started from the family home. Once they had an office premises Annie spent about a day a week working from there. Brett set up the vision and strategy for the Foundation and did the business investments. 17:55 They had a clear idea of where they were going but they did not want it to be an organisation that just gave out money. Education has been a good focus. Fogarty Round Tables are convened to bring groups together to share their resources. They had a very good accountant who helped them set up the structure. The Board of Trustees have skills that assist as well. After 4 years they took on a part-time Executive Officer. That role is now full-time. 20:09 Early initiatives were to talk to people in the community and find out where they could help. Annie was quite dismayed in the early years by some of the challenges that people faced. Their first project was a leadership programme working with the Health Department and ELDAG [Local Drug Action Group]. This programme went for 10 years. 22:11 Their first education programme was with the Education Faculty at UWA to encourage educators and they started a scholarship programme there - the Educational Excellence Scholarships. There were travel awards, prizes and scholarships for teachers to study for PhD and Masters degrees. There are about 10 programmes working in the community across a wide spectrum including supporting play groups in disadvantaged areas. 25:02 A lot of the programmes have a leadership focus. In 2004, the Foundation started the UWA Fogarty Foundation Scholarships party to encourage people from the regions to come and study in Perth. The scholarships also encourage students who might have been tempted to study elsewhere, to remain in Perth. The leadership programme is an integral part of this scholarship. The scholars meet and learn from leaders in the community. Bringing young people together has enabled scholar initiatives such as Teach Learn Grow where university students (not necessary education students) mentor rural WA primary students. The scholars set up their own student television WASTV. Fogarty Scholars established Profectus in 2013 to encourage Australian students to get involved in entrepreneurship and help them develop their ideas. They run a leadership conference for Year 10 students. This is the ripple effect in action. There is also a scholarship programme for teachers, the Fogarty Learning Centre, which supports Edith Cowan University to develop numeracy and literacy clinics. One of the latest initiatives is CoderDojo which teaches young people to programme computers. This began at UWA in 2013. It is hoped to run 12 regional programmes in 2014. 28:56 Students apply for the Fogarty Scholarship through UWA. They have to be high achievers but 50% of the emphasis is on academic ability and 50% on community involvement and leadership abilities. There are 54 scholars and 45 alumni. The Fogarty Foundation work will really come to fruition when the scholars are working in their various careers worldwide. 30:24 There haven’t been many disappointments or set-backs. The community sector is very open and generous in sharing knowledge and supporting each other. The education field is a dynamic area that produces good outcomes. 31:21 Each year they review their work. Annie has learnt that it is essential to reach out. She was thrilled by the help she received in the US when researching how to promote leadership in people with low socio economic backgrounds. If the Foundation cannot help a project financially they try to put people in contact with somebody who can assist them. 33:38 In regional WA support needs to be at a grass roots level so that they can carry on the programmes themselves. The Foundation does not put on a conference. They tend to work more on bringing people together for round table discussions in a particular area. 36:05 In the future technology is going to play more of a part in education. But how do you use it best? 37:41 Annie is happy that UWA is returning to a liberal arts undergraduate degree. It was very different in 1978. Now there is more online education at UWA. Annie feels that it is crucial to spend time on campus making contacts and connections. It is important to have lots of other experiences and not just a degree. There is a lot more emphasis now on students being involved in not for profit organisations i.e. Camp for Kids. 40:15 UWA presented both Annie and Brett with an honorary Doctorate of Letters in 2004. They are proud of their relationship with UWA. Annie is on the Senate Development Committee and the Capital Campaign Committee which looks at the development side of the university. 41:17 The Fogarty Leadership Programme organises a series of Conversations where leaders in the community speak to the scholars. There are four conversations during the year. At the beginning of the year a writer from the Perth International Writer’s Festival is invited to speak to the students. At the end of the year they hold the Remarkables which is where four of the scholars or alumni come and speak about their work. 42:49 The Trustees are generally friends and people who are involved and interested in the community. They have a broad range of expertise and backgrounds. The Board of Trustees is: Annie Fogarty AM; Bettina Mangam; Tony Dale; Caitlyn Fogarty; Gary Roberts and Emeritus Professor Bill Louden. Kathryn Clements the full-time Executive Officer graduated from UWA in 2011 with a Graduate Certificate in Social Impact. The Trustees have no set term of service. 45:54 Audio Files Links to audio files <a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/eaf6e3c05903d4bf9b86775838cdfcfa.mp3">Fogarty, Interview 1, Track 1</a> <br /><a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/b81ef768a9dcfecc8f78e24ac3f8695c.mp3">Fogarty, Interview 1, Track 2</a> Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Annie Fogarty interview, 24 July 2014 Subject The topic of the resource Fogarty Foundation Description An account of the resource Annie with her husband Brett established The Fogarty Foundation in 2000 and has been the Executive Chairperson since inception. Having graduated with an Arts degree from The University of Western Australia, Annie’s work in marketing and public relations has primarily been in the tourism and arts sectors. In 2008, Annie and Brett were both awarded Honorary Doctorate Degrees in Letters from The University of Western Australia and Annie was awarded the Order of Australia AM in 2013 for her services to education. Annie is involved in a number of boards and committees, including the Roseworth Primary School, Board, The Fremantle Press Board, The University of Western Australia’s Senate Development Committee, The Centre for Social Impact WA Advisory Group, the Leading Learning in Education and Philanthropy (LLEAP) Advisory Group, The ECU Fogarty Learning Centre Advisory Group and the Fogarty EDvance Management Group. Annie has experience in public and private stakeholder engagement and liaison, project management and development of effective partnership relationships. Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource Fogarty, Annie Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available University of Western Australia Historical Society Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource Copyright holder University of Western Australia Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource MP3 files Type The nature or genre of the resource Oral History Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource UWA ORAL HISTORIES Description An account of the resource A collection of interviews with former UWA staff, recorded by the <a href="http://www.alumni.uwa.edu.au/community/historical-society" target="_blank">UWA Historical Society</a> to mark the Centenary of the University in 2013. <br />The UWA Historical Society’s <a href="http://www.alumni.uwa.edu.au/community/historical-society/oral-histories" target="_blank">Oral History Program</a> started as a project with four oral histories funded from Society resources. It was then expanded with support from every Faculty on campus, the Guild, Convocation and through private donations. Additional funding was received through a Heritage Grant. Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available University of Western Australia Historical Society Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource University of Western Australia Historical Society Oral History A resource containing historical information obtained in interviews with persons having firsthand knowledge. Interviewer The person(s) performing the interview Julia Wallis Interviewee The person(s) being interviewed Antoinette Kennedy Location The location of the interview Trigg, W.A. Duration Length of time involved (seconds, minutes, hours, days, class periods, etc.) Interview 1: 1 hour, 13 minutes, 36 seconds Interview 2: 1 hour, 6 minutes, 55 seconds Interview 3: 1 hour, 19 minutes, 42 seconds Total: 3 hours, 40 minutes, 13 seconds Bit Rate/Frequency Rate at which bits are transferred (i.e. 96 kbit/s would be FM quality audio) 128 kbs Time Summary A summary of an interview given for different time stamps throughout the interview Interview 1 Track 1 00:00 Introduction by Julia Wallis 00:33 Track 2 00:00 Antoinette Kennedy was born on 18 May 1945 in Mount Hawthorn. Her family were of Irish extraction but had been in WA for several generations. The family lived on an acre of land in Roberts Street, Joondanna. Antoinette’s father had a trotting stable. Family members lived around the suburb. Her father and aunt both attended St Kieran’s Catholic Primary School. Her mother left school at the age of 14. 06:11 Antoinette’s grandfather was a Bailiff. Her mother worked in the office and then worked with her husband who was a fruit and vegetable wholesaler. Most of the produce went to Stations in the Norwest. Antoinette attended St Keiran’s. Boys left in third grade and then to Christian Brothers in Leederville. The teaching was not of a high standard but the nuns were a good example of what women could achieve. 14:36 Antoinette did her Junior at St Kieran’s and did her Leaving at Leederville Technical College. The lectures at Leederville Technical College were inspiring. She was the first student from St Keiran’s to attend university. Antoinette’s mother encouraged her to go on to higher education as she didn’t get the chance herself. Her mother valued education for its own sake but also stressed on Antoinette the need to be financially independent. 22:08 In the 1960s, women who worked in an office or for the Public Service had to give up work once they got married. Teaching was mooted as an option. In first year at UWA, students had to do two Arts subjects as part of their Law degree. Professor Beasley suggested Antoinette take Philosophy rather than Psychology. She studied Legal History and Constitutional Law. The Law School was small and enclosed like a college. It was located near Broadway. Students were expected to maintain a good standard of dress and wore gowns to lectures. 28:32 Antoinette did not know anybody in the Law School. In her year, there were two girls from Presbyterian Ladies College and another from Mount Lawley High School. A girl from Hong Kong returned there after graduating. The girls would discuss clothes and make up and the Law Ball in the locker room. Antoinette was ‘dating’ for her last two years at Law School. It was fairly easy to find partners at university. 35:00 Antoinette is still friends with some of the male students she met at Law School. Numbers whittled down – especially after First Year. Antoinette did not find law difficult but she did have to learn how to study. The full-time lecturers were assisted by professionals who lectured part-time. Professor Payne arrived from Oxford in 1963. He became Dean and Professor Beasley retired. Professor Payne encouraged Richard Harding to join UWA. Harding referred to the students as “Idle toads”. Marking became stricter. The Law School started to change under Payne. 43:32 The part-time lecturers had a different approach. John Toohey was a part time lecturer who became a High Court Judge. Learning to read cases was very important especially when Payne and Harding arrived. Law students were encouraged to visit the High Court in 3rd and 4th year. Newsworthy cases at the time were the trials of John Button and Darryl Beamish. There was also a lecturer at UWA who was convicted of manslaughter for the shooting of his disabled son. Professor Edwards who lectured in Criminal Law observed that the students were not sympathetic to the father. 48:15 Annette was not part of the moot team but recalls going to Melbourne to support the UWA team. 52:14 Antoinette enjoyed being on campus and going to the Refectory for morning tea and lunch. She recalled male students from Law and Engineering having a tug of war across the Reflection Pond. People did one off fun things rather than organised things. It was very carefree. English lectures were huge with lots of students. Antoinette did not challenge authority and felt that most of the students fitted their values and opinions to those of their tutors and lecturers. While studying a poem in the Woman’s Common Room near the Refectory, Antoinette was assisted by Dorothy Hewett . 58:45 Antoinette did not know which area of the law she wanted to practice in. Ted Sharp always intended to go into commercial law. Others were going into a family firm. Women were not encouraged in the same way to set goals. Professor Payne asked her to tutor at UWA but she was keen to do her Articles. The students had studies while doing articles as well as exams. The only way of passing a law degree was to complete the exams. 01:04:48 Antoinette did not work in the university holidays. Many of the male students worked on the wheat bins. People’s consumer wants and needs were much simpler. Antoinette drove a car to university. The car parks were always full. Petrol was not as expensive. Antoinette had a Commonwealth scholarship but her family was also able to support her. Her parents attended the graduation ceremony in Winthrop Hall in 1967. Charles Court was the speaker. Antoinette was doing her articles at SE Tippett and Ellis. The Dean, Professor Edwards, organised this for her with Ted Ellis. Antoinette won the Herbert H Wheatley Memorial Prize in commercial law and the HCG Keall Memorial Prize for the top student in 4th year. 01:13:03 Interview 2 Track 1 00:00 Introduction by Julia Wallis 00:43 Track 2 00:00 Dorothy Hewitt and Edward Ellis of S E Tippett & Ellis were Communists. Many became Socialists after Nikita Khrushchev denounced Josef Stalin in 1956. Antoinette wasn’t involved in student politics. Some students with Liberal Party leanings wanted to break down student unionism. Vietnam protests took place after Antoinette left UWA. Some fellow students were called up. Antoinette acted for conscientious objectors but Peter Dowding did most of this work. Antoinette was not invited to do Honours. A fellow graduate, Judith Gardam, was furious that the women were excluded. Honours wasn’t a prerequisite to practice law. 11:45 Antoinette did 2 years of articles with S E Tippett & Ellis. UWA Law School relied on the profession to teach and mentor the students. In 1968, she went to Godfrey Virtue. It was a bigger and more prestigious firm with a large general practice that included conveyancing; Shire law, common law and family law. There were no national or international firms in Perth at this stage. At most, firms had 12-18 partners. The senior partner, who was Antoinette’s mentor, left Godfrey Virtue and set up as a barrister. She realised that she had no prospects for advancement and quit Godfrey Virtue in 1971 to set up her own firm - AG Kennedy & Co. 17:44 There were no other female lawyers at Godfrey Virtue at that time. Ilbery Barblett, in the same building, had no female lawyers either. Paterson & Dowding had had a female lawyer but she left to work in the eastern states. The office building was behind St Andrews Church in Pier Street between the Terrace and Hay Street. Antoinette did a lot of Family Court work (including undefended divorces) and some Local Court work. At the Summary Relief Court, women lawyers were required to wear a hat. Some of the women wore joke hats but Antoinette wore attractive hats! For her first divorce appearance, Joe Tippett came down to support her. 22:54 Women were treated differently from men. Many of the magistrates did not take a woman seriously and/or trust what she said. Clients too might initially be worried about being represented by a woman. 26:45 Antoinette was not able to network with the men over drinks after work and thus pick up helpful tips about legal practice. She was not offered a junior brief in the 10 years that she was at the Bar. Government departments in WA have done much to address inequality as it was proved that WA was far behind the rest of Australia. Women were not supposed to drink in public bars in Perth in the 1960s and 70s. Popular bars were the Palace Hotel, the Esplanade Hotel, the Adelphi Hotel and the Weld Club. There were only 5-6 women in practice. Sheila McClemans who worked for the Law Society was very supportive. Antoinette was not aware of discrimination when she was a young graduate. It took a while for her to realise the disadvantages she faced. The Second Wave of American feminists and Germaine Greer’s book The Female Eunuch became popular in the 1970s. In about 1982, 20 women attended a meeting to set up the Women Lawyers Association. 34:40 Antoinette founded her own business despite these factors. She rented a space from two barristers. The bank would not give her an overdraft so she had to use her savings. Female clients flooded in. She worked all hours and weekends for 4 years doing mainly Family Court work, criminal law and motor vehicle accidents. She did not have trouble getting paid as she often under-charged! After she sold the business, she travelled around the world for 9 months. On her return, she had enough money to go to the Bar. 42:42 Divorce became commonplace. Women did not feel the need to remain married to an abusive husband. In 1972, Gough Whitlam was elected as Prime Minister. He appointed Elizabeth Reid as the world's first advisor on women's affairs. In 1974, he brought in the supporting parents benefit. Antoinette worked on adoption cases at Tippett & Ellis. The Family Law Act 1975 established the principle of no-fault divorce. Lionel Murphy was Attorney-General. Elizabeth Evatt was made the first Chief Judge of the Family Court of Australia. At last, women got a fair deal regarding property. 53:18 As a barrister, Antoinette depended on the legal profession for work. The Independent Bar was set up in 1970 by Sir Francis Burt. It was resented in some quarters. The Bar was located at 524 Hay Street. Antoinette paid rent for her room and a library fee and shared secretarial support. Later, the Bar moved to Law Chambers. Working at the Bar was quite convivial. There were lots of laughs and drinks at the office on Friday nights. She is disappointed that she never was offered a junior brief in the 10 years she was there. She was the only woman at the Bar at that time. Val French was the first female barrister but only overlapped with Antoinette for about a year. Vivian Payne used to send Antoinette work. Antoinette found the first 6-7 months quite difficult. She did family law, motor vehicle cases, commercial cases and some criminal jury trials. 0:01:01 Antoinette wasn’t asked to tutor or lecture UWA law students. Douglas Payne did a good job of professionalising the UWA Law School. The law changed very slowly in those ten years. A big change was the treatment of the victims of sexual assault. This came about due to pressure from women in the community rather than from inside the legal profession. WA was at the forefront in taking children out of the court and allowing them to give evidence by video link from a separate location. They also had separate entrances so that they didn’t have to face the accused. 01:06:12 Interview 3 Track 1 00:00 00:46 Track 2 00:00 Members of the Bar provided honorary legal advice and sat on boards as a form of community service. Sheila McClemans, for example, revived the Law Society. Antoinette was the Honorary Solicitor for the Netball Association for 4 years. Antoinette was a member of the WA Parole Board from 1983-1985. The Parole Board met monthly for a whole day. In 1984, she joined the Board of the Catholic Archbishop’s Social Justice Commission. The church had decided to put out a statement on criminal justice and sentencing. Antoinette chaired this team. Visiting speakers presented each month and Antoinette prepared summaries of these presentations. It was very helpful when she went onto the Bench. In 1984, Antoinette became President of the Women’s Lawyers Association. The first president was Vivian Payne. There were more female lawyers by this stage. 10:10 Antoinette became the first female judge of the District Court of Western Australia in 1985. The Western Mail ran an article on the lack of women in the legal profession and when Brian Burke was elected Premier of Western Australia in 1983, he pushed for more women judges. Two new appointments were created and His Honour Paul James Healy (deceased 2008) was appointed as well as Antoinette. The appointment of a female judge created animosity in some quarters. The Crown Law Department had expected the first female judge to be appointed from amongst their ranks. 16:07 Antoinette gave up her position at the Bar and was sworn in by the Governor. The Chief Judge showed her the ropes. There was no other training. Each judge has their own usher and Associate. Secretarial support was shared. District Court Associates are highly qualified clerical assistants who liaise with the legal profession. Antoinette did not employ law graduates – she preferred to have a highly qualified administrator. 22:56 The other judges were very helpful. Antoinette worked a full day at the District Court. She was not given long criminal trials or frauds when she was first appointed. Judges develop an expertise in a certain areas. Some are better at running a court and keeping a jury together. Some cannot make a decision. New South Wales have set up a judicial commission for tough cases. Some judges find it difficult to move from criminal work to civil. 28:33 Antoinette’s first civil case concerned a leading Prosthodontist who needed work in Sydney as the result of a motor vehicle accident. The Chief Judge, Des Heenan, wrote a long document on how to write judgments. He didn’t give this to Antoinette so she presumes that he thought her judgments were sound! Des Heenan was always willing to help when necessary. 32:15 Antoinette was used to jury trials when she was a barrister. Juries need to be managed and given plenty of breaks. The judge must explain the points of law. Some judges explain to the jury what is expected of them. 37:18 The court is a theatre. It is designed to keep the various parties separated. The District Court was the building where the Central Law Courts are now located. A new District Court building was built across the road. Antoinette was made Chief Judge in January 2004. The new building was already being discussed. It was opened on 3 June 2008. They needed to make the architects aware of what was needed and the importance of sight lines. They were advised by a former Chief Judge to push for more jury courts rather than ask for river views. Jim McGinty the Attorney- General was very supportive. The Supreme Court also used the new building and didn’t want it called “District Court” but Antoinette stood firm. 47:08 Their wish list included decent sized offices for the judges and how the courts were to be set up. Being able to see everyone is important. There was a Technology Committee and that was incorporated in the specifications. The building was designed with separate entrances. Separate cores are necessary for the general public, the jury and the judges. This makes a court building difficult to construct. Security is another aspect. The District Court has more trials than the Supreme Court (both civil and criminal). Antoinette likens the District Court to K-Mart and the Supreme Court to an exclusive boutique. They are quite different. 56:30 The workload in the District Court has increased over the years. Cases have changed and become more serious. Drugs and sexual abuse cases have increased. Paul Healy annotated the Criminal Code and distributed his material and often referenced all the cases. A judge becomes hardened to the things they hear. They do not have time to dwell on cases because there is always another case to hear. Antoinette found hearing sex trials with young children to be very distressing. 01:03:46 The media can be very critical of judges. Antoinette’s decisions were the subject of many a talk-back radio programme. At one stage the prosecution mounted an attack on her. They combed through her list of cases (there were 20-28 cases a day) to find cases where somebody was let off and appeal the decision to the Supreme Court. This started in earnest at the end of 1988 when Red Burt (Sir Francis Burt) was no longer Chief Justice. He was replaced by David Malcolm. It continued until about 1992. Antoinette was portrayed in the media as emotional, incompetent and unprofessional. 01:08:00 A German criminologist, Dr Christian Pfeiffer, came to Perth and talked to her about sentencing. After the event, Dr Pfeiffer rang Antoinette and warned her that she was being undermined by her own colleagues. This was devastating. She was able to make it generally known that she would make it public if things didn’t improve. She was not defended by the women lawyers or her fellow UWA graduates. 01:14:14 This smear campaign was damaging to Antoinette and all women in the legal profession. It was an unfortunate and upsetting period but she has survived and outlived all her detractors. The UWA law student graduates of 1967 have fairly regular reunions. 01:18:56 Audio Files Links to audio files <a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/940461badb5d447bbef49d515093d39b.mp3">Kennedy, Interview 1, Track 1</a> <br /><a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/4480f13fd1567b345a0a92ff58dab303.mp3">Kennedy, Interview 1, Track 2</a> <br /><a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/b486e9d0501190f5edcfbc6d3a28785d.mp3">Kennedy, Interview 2, Track 1</a> <br /><a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/0f30dc56841c0041c1c03b944b5c6b6d.mp3">Kennedy, Interview 2, Track 2</a> <br /><a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/573282929371da73b8d027a0f5c34e85.mp3">Kennedy, Interview 3, Track 1</a> <br /><a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/af50a4a70f0c414d8f9ac3d876195332.mp3">Kennedy, Interview 3, Track 2</a> <br /><a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/4af1225b9dda5de33c8cf95c01d84f30.mp3">Kennedy, Interview 3, Track 3</a> Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Antoinette Kennedy interview, 18 November 2014, 9 December 2014 and 17 December 2014 Subject The topic of the resource Law Description An account of the resource The Honourable Antoinette Kennedy AO graduated from UWA with a Bachelor of Laws in 1967. She was the first and longest serving woman judge in Western Australia, serving for 25 years. She was appointed as Chief Judge of the District Court for 6 years; the first woman head of a jurisdiction in Western Australia and only the third in Australia. She was made Officer in the Order of Australia (AO) and was elected to the WA Women’s Hall of Fame in 201. She was a member of Murdoch Senate for six years, founding member of the Women Lawyers of Western Australia, member of the Chief Justice’s Gender Bias Taskforce and a mentor in the Law Society mentoring program for young lawyers. Antoinette is outspoken on issues of social justice and has a keen interest in the provision of affordable housing. She retired from the law in 2010. Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource Kennedy, Antoinette Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available University of Western Australia Historical Society Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource Copyright holder University of Western Australia Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource MP3 files Type The nature or genre of the resource Oral History Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource UWA ORAL HISTORIES Description An account of the resource A collection of interviews with former UWA staff, recorded by the <a href="http://www.alumni.uwa.edu.au/community/historical-society" target="_blank">UWA Historical Society</a> to mark the Centenary of the University in 2013. <br />The UWA Historical Society’s <a href="http://www.alumni.uwa.edu.au/community/historical-society/oral-histories" target="_blank">Oral History Program</a> started as a project with four oral histories funded from Society resources. It was then expanded with support from every Faculty on campus, the Guild, Convocation and through private donations. Additional funding was received through a Heritage Grant. Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available University of Western Australia Historical Society Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource University of Western Australia Historical Society Oral History A resource containing historical information obtained in interviews with persons having firsthand knowledge. Interviewer The person(s) performing the interview Julia Wallis Interviewee The person(s) being interviewed Armenag Nassibian Location The location of the interview Claremont, WA Duration Length of time involved (seconds, minutes, hours, days, class periods, etc.) 50 minutes, 29 seconds Bit Rate/Frequency Rate at which bits are transferred (i.e. 96 kbit/s would be FM quality audio) 128 kbs Time Summary A summary of an interview given for different time stamps throughout the interview Track 1 00:00 Introduction by Julia Wallis 00:47 Track 2 00:00 Armenag Garabed Nassibian. Born 1928 in Palestine. His father was Armenian and worked in the British Colonial Service during the First World War. His mother was from Turkey. His parents returned to Cyprus when he was about 4 months old. He attended an Armenian school in Cyprus. In 1951 he went to London. He was initially interested in becoming a pilot but decided to try and get into university instead. He studied part-time for GEC examinations and then attended London University for 4 years. 06:09 He was then offered a job in the research laboratory at General Electric Company in England and worked on semi-conductor devices. The lab was under the umbrella of London University and he enrolled for a PhD in Physics. His field was solid state Physics which was considered a useful subject for engineering. 09:05 He put an advertisement in The Times newspaper seeking employment as he was unhappy working in his current job. He was offered a job at Bradford University which was a new university. He was also telephoned by Professor Alan Billings who offered him a job which he accepted – not even knowing where Perth was! He was told he could set up a micro-electronics laboratory at UWA. 14:25 He was given a first class fare to travel to Australia by ship and the university paid for him to bring his wife and children and all his furniture. He arrived in Perth in 1968. The family were put up at the Captain Stirling Hotel. He was met at the ship and taken to the hotel. Later he was shown around the university. The clean room was quite primitive as it was in the old building. Some years later they moved to the present location where they had a good clean room. 18:26 He retired from UWA in 1993. He worked overseas as a professor at McMaster University in Canada for a while. The Professor in charge at that time was Professor Lorenzo Farone who is a Fellow of the Academy of Sciences and was one of his best students. Another PhD student was Professor John Dell who is now the Executive Dean of the Faculty of Engineering, Computing and Mathematics. 20:55 Mr Nassibian found the UWA campus very beautiful. It was not as big then. Professor Billings was very keen to turn the Department into the premier Engineering department in Australia. Mr Nassibian started teaching the first year students quantum mechanics and theory in order to understand semi-conductor materials. Later he started teaching second year students as well and then final year and Honours students. He had some very good Honours students. Lorenzo Farone went to the USA when he graduated but was enticed back to UWA. He became his right hand man. 26:45 There were one or two girls studying engineering. Engineering today is very sophisticated. The degree was 4 years. A new Nanotechnology Laboratory was built and opened in 1994 and named the AG Nassibian Nanofabrication Facility. It is a state of the art laboratory that looks at very small devices. 32:10 Track 3 00:00 Professor Alan Billings was sure that he had done the right thing in bringing Mr Nassibian to Perth. He was very supportive. Another top student went to the USA and married an American girl. There were a lot of Indian students. His first PhD student was Hema Sharda (now Winthrop Professor/Director, South Asian Relations). She encouraged students from India to come to UWA to do their PhD studies. 05:18 Visiting professors came from Holland, Germany, the USA and Canada on the Gledden Fellowship and stayed about 6 months. They enjoyed their visit as liked Perth and Western Australia. Perth is much more sophisticated now. When Mr Nassibian arrived the only food restaurants seemed to be serve was steak. The culinary landscape has changed completely mainly due to immigration. 09:38 By the time Mr Nassibian retired the Faculty was very well recognised. Once the students qualified many moved overseas. India and China are at the forefront of this sort of research today. Many of the manufacturing industries in Australia are no longer operating. 13:40 He does not regret moving to Australia and to UWA. Perth was a bit boring in 1968 but began to improve when the mining industry started to take off. He would not go back to the UK or the America but he might have been tempted to move to Europe. He spent long periods of sabbatical leave in Germany. Mr Nassibian used to go out for a drink with his post graduate students and liked to be considered as a friend to them rather than as a supervisor. 17:33 Audio Files Links to audio files <a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/572f34b8095c4844c5377edd6ac76dc7.mp3">Nassibian, Interview 1, Track 1</a> <br /><a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/6fb879e38b1e214ca7f8e0f9222526a5.mp3">Nassibian, Interview 1, Track 2</a> <br /><a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/2386c8151293405d75a268f7a7154c81.mp3">Nassibian, Interview 1, Track 3</a> Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Armenag Nassibian interview, 18 September, 2014 Subject The topic of the resource Engineering Description An account of the resource Armenag Nassibian was born in 1928 in Palestine. His parents moved to Cyprus when he was about 4 months old. He attended an Armenian school in Cyprus. In 1951 he went to study in London. Armenag Nassibian moved to Perth with his family in 1968 at the behest of Professor Alan Billings to set up a micro-electronics laboratory at the Department of Electrical and Electronic Engineering. Later he became a Professor at that department and worked there until his retirement from University in 1993. A new Nanotechnology Laboratory was built and opened in 1994 and named the AG Nassibian Nanofabrication Facility, for Nassibian's outstanding contribution to microelectronics research. Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource Nassibian, Armenag Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available University of Western Australia Historical Society Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource Copyright holder University of Western Australia Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource MP3 files Type The nature or genre of the resource Oral History