5 10 85 Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource UWA ORAL HISTORIES Description An account of the resource A collection of interviews with former UWA staff, recorded by the <a href="http://www.alumni.uwa.edu.au/community/historical-society" target="_blank">UWA Historical Society</a> to mark the Centenary of the University in 2013. <br />The UWA Historical Society’s <a href="http://www.alumni.uwa.edu.au/community/historical-society/oral-histories" target="_blank">Oral History Program</a> started as a project with four oral histories funded from Society resources. It was then expanded with support from every Faculty on campus, the Guild, Convocation and through private donations. Additional funding was received through a Heritage Grant. Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available University of Western Australia Historical Society Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource University of Western Australia Historical Society Oral History A resource containing historical information obtained in interviews with persons having firsthand knowledge. Interviewer The person(s) performing the interview Julia Wallis Interviewee The person(s) being interviewed Harvey von Bergheim Location The location of the interview Kingsley, W.A. Duration Length of time involved (seconds, minutes, hours, days, class periods, etc.) Interview 1: 1 hour, 3 minutes, 8 seconds Interview 2: 1 hour, 3 minutes, 32 seconds Interview 3: 57 minutes, 32 seconds Total: 3 hours, 4 minutes, 12 seconds Bit Rate/Frequency Rate at which bits are transferred (i.e. 96 kbit/s would be FM quality audio) 128 kbs Time Summary A summary of an interview given for different time stamps throughout the interview Interview 1 Track 1 00:00 Introduction by Julia Wallis 00:35 Track 2 00:00 Paul Harvey Fritz von Bergheim. Born 19 July 1948 in Colombo, Sri Lanka. Did GCE ‘O’ level exams. 00:33 The family came to Australia for a better life. In Sri Lanka it was not possible to own your own home and families lived together. This may happen in Perth one day as well! 03:27 The family were rejected twice before they were accepted. They were sponsored by relations already living here and were assisted by Kim Beazley senior. They arrived in 1966. 04:09 Track 3 00:00 Harvey arrived when he was 17 and had completed his schooling. Harvey and his three brothers all started work. His sister attended Mercedes College and his younger brother went to Perth Modern School. 00:49 His first job was at Boans as a mail boy. The family rented a house in Princess Road, Claremont for a year or so. After 6 months Harvey left Boans and worked at Coventry Motors in Hay Street for 6 months as a spare parts clerk. Then he worked at Prestige Motors as a warranty clerk. 02:49 Harvey sat for the Public Service Exam at UWA Recreation Centre. He passed and got a job with the Repatriation Department (now called Veterans Affairs). There were no prospects of advancement here so after 2 years he applied for a job as a clerk in the Registrar’s Office at UWA. He was interviewed by Brian Rowland and Steve Wyles (Records Manager) in November 1969. After the interview Harvey was taken to see the Registrar, Arthur Williams. His office was where the present Vice Chancellor’s office is now. He was very proper and told Harvey that they don’t use the word “blokes” at UWA. 06:42 Brian Rowland was 6 foot 4 or 5 inches. He used to go fishing and would take Harvey with a group of other people. He would be able to drink two schooners of beer at Steve’s Hotel to Harvey’s one! He was a dinky-di Aussie and Steve Wyles was English 07:57 Harvey started work in December 1969. He worked in Central Records where all the records were on hard copy files. There were no computer records. The Records Section is now located on the corner of Broadway and Stirling Highway. The Records Section used to be where the Visitor’s Centre is now located. There were student files and general files. 09:53 There were wooden doors and a counter. Staff would fetch files that were requested and mark it out on the card. 10:14 The students were filed under number depending on the year of enrolment. The students would fill out an enrolment form which was then put on the file. All correspondence and paperwork would be placed on the file. The mail room was just behind and attached to the back of Central Records. 11:21 During this time, Harvey drove the mail van and delivered the mail for 3 weeks while the usual person was on holiday. The campus only stretched about as far as Chemistry. He would set off from Whitfield Court Administration. The mail round probably took about an hour. They had canvas mail bags. The departmental mail would be bundled up and dropped off at a central location. 14:20 There was a round in the morning and in the afternoon. The mail was collected from the Nedlands Post Office that used to be located at 35 Stirling Highway. The mail would be sorted in the Records mail room. It would be classified and then distributed. 16:18 There were 4 men in the office – Brian Rowland, Steve Wyles, John Devlin and Harvey plus about 8 female staff who opened the mail and did filing. There was a lot of filing. Enrolments were only at the beginning of the year. Files would be delivered often to the top floor. There were no administrators in the departments, they were all upstairs. Things would be delivered on a trolley. There wasn’t a lift as such it was more like a dumb waiter. 18:42 The typing pool was on the first floor. This was later called the stenographic unit. Lifts came in a lot later. 19:32 The files were needed upstairs so that the correspondence could be answered. A photocopy of the letter that was sent would then be put on the file and then the file came back down to records for filing. 20:50 Harvey used to drive to work from McCourt Street, Leederville. He would drop his father off at work in Murray Street in the city and his sister to Mercedes College and then drive to UWA. He parked in Car Park 1. The traffic was much less then. There would be trams running down Cambridge Street. 24:01 The office was behind the Visitors Centre. It was called the Records Section. Everyone had their own desk. Harvey sat next to John Devlin who created the new files and was Harvey’s direct supervisor. There were student files, staff files. There were also general files for Prizes and Bequests. In 1969 UWA was the only university in Perth. Each file would be registered on a slip. A student file would be cross referenced by name and number. 27:09 Files did sometimes go missing. Sometimes you could find them because they had been filed in wrong numerical position or caught up with papers in somebody’s office. 29:45 Track 4 00:00 Harvey worked from 8.30am to 5pm. There was an hour for lunch. You could also take tea breaks. Some people would take in cakes when it was their birthday. When Harvey became manager he suggested people put money in each month for a card and a cake. There were tea ladies who delivered the morning tea on a trolley. 02:32 There was no lunch room. Some people ate at their desks or outside. There were no microwaves. Most people brought their lunch. You could also buy it from the Hackett café or the shops at the top of Broadway. 04:25 Harvey remembers there was more after-work socialising in 1970. He worked under Bill Nation. Arthur Williams was still the Registrar. Cheryl Griffiths was the Statistics Clerk. Her maiden name was Higgs. She had a brother Paul worked as Manager of Engineering. Another brother, Michael, worked in the Publications Office. She left to have a baby. She married Martin Griffiths who was Vice Principal. Previously he was Examinations Officer and Fees Officer. 07:23 The job was advertised. Geoff Pearson had more experience and got the job but had to resign and return to New Zealand for personal reasons. Harvey does not remember whether the job was advertised externally. 08:48 Harvey started working as a clerk in the Statistics Section of the Registrar’s Office in 1970. He reported to Bill Nation, the Statistics Officer. Harvey compiled information from the enrolment forms. The information included where students lived in term time, holiday time, what units they were doing etc. Harvey circled in red felt pen what information needed to be updated. 11:42 Harvey took the forms to the dungeon where data processing girls would key in the information. The batches of cards were dropped off by Harvey at the Computer Centre to be processed overnight. The Computer Centre was where the Physics Building is. Then they would need to check the IBM forms. It was essential that all the information would be correct. 15:39 If students withdrew from a course this had to be filed. Today the 31st March and 31st August are the cut off dates. Then 30 April was the last day for withdrawal. The University was funded on 30 April if people withdrew, they did not receive the funding. The Statistics Office would process a student who withdrew on 29 March on 1 May in order to receive funding. You can’t do this now as the students pay the fees. This was the reason for the amount of files that used to be filed up around Harvey’s desk. 17:33 The office had to send out a list of people who had withdrawn or changed their enrolments. This was printed downstairs by the duplicating room. The Statistics Office and the Registrar’s Office were located in an administration building around the Sunken Garden. There may be a return to central administration again due to the new courses. 19:32 Harvey was also responsible for publishing the statistics within UWA. These had to be hand written very carefully before it was typed. 20:33 Track 5 00:00 Computing came into the job more and more. There was a place called Administrative Computing Services. There was a planning office on the top floor above Statistics run by Mr Richard Angeloni and Rod Boland. 01:20 Harvey organised for the enrolment forms to be pre-printed. The girls at the enquiry counter said that this caused them more work so the practice was abandoned. 05:49 There were telephone enquiries but it was not as common in the early 70s as paperwork was the more common approach. Harvey had his own phone. 08:06 Interview 2 Track 1 00:00 Introduction by Julia Wallis 00:33 Track 2 00:00 Harvey takes long service leave from June to August 1975. He is replaced by Peter Curtis who is now the Executive Registrar. Harvey went to Europe via Ceylon. 01:05 Harvey returned to Perth and UWA. He got married and didn’t return to Europe. He met his wife at UWA. 01:32 The Christmas function was held in the Undercroft at Winthrop Hall. There was a function that started at 12 noon. If you arrived at 1pm there was no food left. After the lunch Harvey’s group used to go on to Steve’s Hotel. 02:33 Some people went to University House. It was for all staff but you had to be a member. 03:14 There were not many social activities. Harvey’s work colleagues organised their own. Once a fortnight about a dozen of them went to Friday lunch at the Witches Cauldron in Subiaco and take the afternoon off. They made this up but going into work early on Monday. 04:14 On Fridays they used to go to Minsky’s Bar & Grill in Hampden Road or to the Broadway Tavern. The University Club was not a Friday night spot but because it was used more by the academics. Harvey’s group wanted to get off the campus once the working week was over. 05:39 There were no organised social or sporting activities. Harvey did not take part in sport apart from running. 06:17 Harvey got married to his wife, Bev, in the Sunken Garden on 29 December 1978. It was 42 degrees C. 07:40 Marriage on the university grounds has been going on for a while. People are now using the Tropical Grove. This was not as pretty and not as popular in the 70s. 08:43 There are also memorial services held there. Rhonda Haskell had a memorial service there recently. Harvey is not sure whether funeral/memorial services were held on campus in the 70s but weddings were very popular. Lots of students and ex-students get married on campus but services are not permitted during the examination period. 10:09 Harvey’s wife continued working until the birth of their first child in February 1984 when she resigned. Female staff either took maternity leave or resigned but she wanted to be a full-time mum. 12:34 Marriage did not change much for Harvey as he already knew people and his wife worked at UWA. 13:12 In March 1980 Harvey needed a challenge and moved to take a job as Media Control Clerk at the Tertiary Institution Service (TISC) on Stirling Highway (near the garage). This job was in the computing area and entailed processing enrolments for high school students working with the Secondary Education Authority. 14:48 His immediate boss was John Murray. Murray returned to UWA in about 2003 or 4 to head up the new Student Information Systems (SIMS). Mary Carroll was another colleague. She took over from John when he retired and is now Associate Director of SIMS. 15:51 TISC dealt with the results for high school students and wanted to apply to go to university. 16:58 Computers were gaining in popularity. The computer was housed in a special cool room. About 8 or 10 people worked outside the room. There was a computer on the table but it was very large and cumbersome compared to the ones today. 18:23 Harvey is not sure whether the filing system was also on computer. 18:50 In 1983 Harvey returned to UWA to work as Assistant Examination’s Office. The person in charge was Fred Pike. He later became Assistant Registrar at UWA. Harvey thinks that by this stage they had decided to merge Enrolments and Examinations into the one area but he is not completely certain. Harvey’s predecessor, Gary Habbishow had gone on secondment. He was originally from Human Resources. The job was advertised internally. 20:46 Harvey was interviewed by the then Registrar Malcolm Orr, Fred Pike, the Examinations Officer and Ian Peck the Admissions Officer. Harvey thinks he was successful because he knew how the enrolments side of things worked. 21:57 Harvey did his first examination timetable in April 1983. He had to draw up the examination timetable for the whole university which was approx. 7,500 students. Up until about 1989, UWA worked on 3 terms a year and the exams were held in April, August and November. The exams went for 1 week in April and August and for 2 weeks in November. 23:05 Exams started at 9am and 2pm. There was also an examination at 7pm. This exam was held in the Undercroft for security reasons. 23:51 When UWA moved to semesters the night exam was dropped. The Guild were consulted and it was agreed that this was would be replaced by an exam on Saturday morning. The Guild was very, very strong at this time. 24:39 Harvey presumes that the evening examination was due to a lack of venues. It was already happening when he arrived. For this reason Harvey was pushing for exams to be a maximum of 2 hours. It is not idea to put students who are doing a 2 hour exam in the same venue as those doing a 3 hours exam. 25:33 The shorter exam of 1 to 1.5 hours was done at night. The 2 and 3 hour exams were timetabled for during the day. There are more venues today. 25:56 Up to 2,700 students can be undergoing an examination in one session at 9am and 2pm. The examinations run for 13 days. There are 55,000 sittings but only 2,700 venues. 27:15 The supervisors often spent the whole day at the university if they had to supervise morning and afternoon exams. The supervisors are from outside the university. 27:49 When Harvey did his first timetable he had to do it manually with the assistance of a computer report that listed the exams that each faculty needed to run. This information was handwritten onto index cards with particular reference to the “Clash List”. The days would be set up and card by card the exams would be slotted in. In those days there were 4 law exams. These would be spread out during the week to be on a Monday and a Thursday for example. Medicine was also quite straightforward. Arts and Science exams are trickier to organise as they did so many different units. 30:09 Track 3 00:00 Occasion when there was a clash and Harvey and Fred Pike met with Dr Cyril Edwards from the Physics Department to explain the situation. Emphasises the benefits of face to face contact with people. 02:55 Stickler for the rules. Explains the rationale behind getting the exam papers delivered in plenty of time. The supervisor collects the paper from the appropriate pigeon hole on the day of the exam. 03:45 Complaint made to the Senate about the lateness of the medicine exam papers which were not delivered until the day before. 05:14 Ideally examination papers should be delivered to the Examinations Office 5 weeks before the exam. 05:37 The exam papers should be checked before they leave the faculty. The exam papers have a cover sheet and this is supposed to be check by the person who sets the exam. University policy is that the examiner needs to be present at the exam for the 10 minute reading time and then available in your office to deal with any queries or problems that may arise. This is easier now with mobile phones. 07:18 The policy of academics having to attend examinations goes back to the early 1990s when there was a problem with an examination and the examiner refused to acknowledge the error on the paper. This was then brought up at the Senate and a policy was then put in place almost immediately. Robert Smith was the University Vice Chancellor at the time. The office was assisted by the fact that the supervisor involved was Dorothy Ransom who was also a member of the Senate. 09:56 Harvey would also have to be on campus during the examination period including on Saturday if exams were scheduled. It was decided that exams should also be scheduled for Saturday afternoon once the evening exams were not running. This was taken up with the Guild. The rationale behind it was that by having exams on a Saturday you could schedule another exam on the Monday. 11:30 Harvey thinks that 3 hour examinations are a waste of time as the students lose focus after 1.5 hours. He would prefer to see 2 x 2 hour exams rather than 1 x 3 hour exam. 12:36 Academics have said that the exam paper could be drafted when the unit outline is put together at the start of the term. 13:27 There was nearly a disaster when one of the exam papers had the answers in hidden text on the cover page. The exam was taking place in the Undercroft but there were also some students taken the exam in the recreation centre. The exam papers had to be retrieved and reprinted. Harvey flew around the campus on his bicycle. The incident was reported in “Inside Cover” in the West Australian. It was a “one-off”. 16:19 Harvey’s attitude is that it has happened, let’s fix it. If nobody has been killed or injured then it isn’t the end of the world! 17:54 Cheating does take place in exams. Plagiarism certainly happens in assignments. How can you prove an assignment is all somebody’s own work? 19:12 Cheating does happen especially when students go out to the toilet. There was an incident in June this year when it was thought that students were visiting the toilet during an engineering exam to consult notes. 20:00 Most of the exam supervisors are females and they obviously cannot go into the male toilets. One young man was taking so long in the toilet that a male supervisor from another venue was asked to check out what was going on and sprung the student studying notes! The policy is that the notes are confiscated and the student is allowed to continue the exam but a report is put in by the examination supervisor. The report is given to the Examination Office and then forwarded to the Associate Dean in the relevant Faculty. 22:01 There is probably a case now that 3 supervisors are needed for every exam. People can then be walking the floor and one person can be escorted to the toilet. At present 60 invigilators are employed to supervise examinations. If this number is increased by 20, it will cost the university more money. Should fewer students be allocated per venue? Students can be moved to another seat if the supervisor thinks they are cheating by looking at their neighbour’s work. 25:19 Track 4 00:00 Often students are split into different venues upstairs and downstairs by alphabetical order. The can be thrown out completely if friends or boyfriends and girlfriends ignore this so that they can sit together. 00:54 There was a situation in the 1990s when an overseas male student sat an exam for a female student. 01:03 When the students come into the exam they fill out an information slip. They present their ID on the table. When the information slips are collected, these are checked off against the student ID card. The slips are sorted into alphabetical order. The slips are compared to the computer printout of the names of the students taking the exam. There is a Green form for absent students compared to the computer print-out. There is a Blue form for people not on the list. 02:32 In this case, the student left early and they could not be found on the list. The person who was supposed to be sitting the exam did not attend. The male sat the exam but a female was missing. 03:08 The girl who didn’t do this exam had 3 more exams but did not turn up. The guy who did the exam had 2 more exams but also did not turn up. 03:36 Harvey was unable to contact the girl or the guy at their registered place of residence. 03:54 A report was written so that the university was aware of what had happened. The International Student Centre was also informed. The Registrar was told and a comment was put on their academic records to the effect that they were not permitted to re-enrol at UWA until they met with the Registrar. 04:31 Staff told to take note if the academic records were requested. The academic record was sent out. The male student deleted the comment and photocopied the academic record so that the comment was not there and submitted it to the Australian High Commission in Singapore. When queried by the Australian High Commission, UWA sent the academic records for both students with the original comments to Singapore. 07:30 Interview 3 Track 1 00:00 Introduction by Julia Wallis 00:35 Track 2 00:00 Exam timetables were initially published on notice boards in the Reid Library, the Arts Building and one outside the Student Administration Office. 00:33 Exam results were published in the Undercroft on plastic white boards. The results were only for units that had been passed. 01:10 The results were published under student number and not under student name. 01:56 Sometimes a page or two might be stuck together and so a page of results might not be displayed! It was quite pain staking work putting up the results page by page. 02:39 In or around the late 1980s, the Guild asked them to stop publishing the results like this as hard copies of the results were mailed to the students. 04:15 In the late 1990s or early 2000 all timetables and results were placed online. There was a system where a student could type in their student number with a password and access their information. 05:40 Now Student Connect is very sophisticated and even informs the students as to which exam venue it is, where the venue is located and what time the exam is taking place. 06:12 There is a new system being developed to be even more informative for students regarding their undergraduate lectures and timetables. 06:59 The current system Australian universities use is called Callista. Nine Universities in Australia use it. If UWA wanted to change their system the cost factor would mean that they would need to get the other universities to use this new system as well. 07:30 Before they used Callista they had SRS that was developed within UWA with face to face meetings with the computer programmer Richard Styes. 08:35 The faculties and the academics also can access student information. Staff must to sign confidentiality agreements. There are various levels of access. There are also comments but derogatory comments cannot be placed on the student record due to issues with FOI. Managers can see more information. 11:19 Academics and administrators are encouraged to use Staff Connect. 11:52 TRIM is used by Central Records. There are no hard copy student files any more. Emails and other information can all be placed on this file. It is all by digital records. 13:21 There was a case where an ex student has attempted to get some records taken off his file or changed. As this is a contentious file it won’t be destroyed and is placed in the university archives. 14:51 The student can appeal to the Visitor – this is the top person in the university. 15:47 Track 3 00:00 1983 was when Harvey became involved in graduation on his return as assistant examinations officer. In April 2013 Vicki Pratt has assembled figures of how many graduations Harvey had seen. 01:19 All graduation ceremonies are held in the evening. In 2013 there were 11 or 12 graduation ceremonies in March and April and 5 in September. 01:46 In 1983, there were about 4 ceremonies in March/April but nothing in September. There was more demand for ceremonies in September. This also catered for the Doctor of Philosophy students who if they finished their degree in April had to wait until April the following year for their degree. 02:52 In the late 1990s they began accepting student enrolments in the middle of the year. 03:35 Other than graduating at ceremonies where the degree is conferred on the night. Curtin confers their degrees earlier and has the ceremony later. UWA degrees can be conferred in absentia at the monthly Senate meetings. 05:39 There is a story in the late 70s that there was a graduation during PROSH and there was some high jinx when they switched on the speakers. Harvey did not experience this so it is just hearsay. 06:25 The storm hit UWA at about 3pm on Monday 22 March 2010. . It caused a great deal of damage to the student admin building, to trees on campus, motor vehicles and to windows in Winthrop Hall and other buildings. 09:41 An emergency meeting was held at 5pm and it was agreed that the ceremony could not go ahead in Winthrop Hall. The plan was to split the ceremonies and have half in the Octagon Theatre and half in the University Club. 11:17 All the staff cars apart from Harvey’s had storm damage as he had parked under cover. 12:01 Harvey got to work at 6am the next day and received a call Robyn Wilson who suggested the Recreation Centre. The Rec Centre was going to hold the Australian Judo Championships but Rick Wolters who was the Deputy Director agreed to move the event to Challenge Stadium. He also organised to put down carpet squares to stop the floors from getting marked. John Stubbs met with the Registrar and the change of venue was agreed. 15:36 Mike Fish from Perth Party Hire agreed to supply 1300 chairs at short notice. Simon Chapman from the workshops also supplied 1300 chairs. They had to replicate Winthrop Hall and mark all the seats in theatre style with the relevant ticket numbers. All the other academics apart from the VIPs had to sit upstairs. 18:06 Staff had to prepare labels for the chairs and inform people ringing up about the change of venue. They put out a press release that was picked up by a radio station to inform people the ceremony was still on but with a change of venue. It was impossible to cancel the event. 19:08 There was lots of hard work and last minute work. The area outside the recreation centre and the Octagon was tidied up from the storm damage for the after ceremony party. Luckily the Undercroft was not damaged so people could still go there and get photos taken. Hackett Hall was cleared of people to get everything cleared up and cleaned up. Preparation were finalised by 6.15pm and the ceremony took place at 7.45pm which was only 15 minutes late. 21:38 Track 4 00:00 Because the graduation is so well planned and structured, it can be moved to another venue. Ditto for the examinations. 02:36 At the beginning of October applications for degree are sent to the student. Every year students have to re-enrol and state when they anticipate completing their degree. 04:01 Posters are put up indicating when applications for graduation are closing alerting students to go to Student Administration if they have not received this form. 04:30 Academic records are sent to the Faculty’s and they indicate whether the student will complete or not. 05:16 At the end of the year once the results are uploaded on or about the first week in December, an expected completed register is compiled. This goes to the Faculty and then comes back when it has been approved for processing. 05:48 Some people will have failed one or two units but have also have been expected to complete. Results are out by about 3 December and released to the students on 16 December. They view their results on Student Connect. 06:46 There are also late applications (these are charged a fee). There is a cut-off date in January the next year. From there the Graduation Officer has to configure the ceremonies. There are also PhD students to consider. There may be 3,500 students to process and they work out how many from Arts, Science, Medicine, Law etc. They sort them into groups and set the date. 08:30 Winthrop Hall can hold about 890 on the bottom floor. Each graduate gets two tickets. This is signed off by John Stubbs and Peter Curtis who decide how many ceremonies take place. 09:44 These dates have already been set. There are set 3 years in advance. The academic year is also set 3 years in advance. The students are then aware of the rough date for graduation i.e. between 15 March and 12 April. 11:45 Arts sometimes had to be held over two nights as there are so many graduates. 12:14 In the early 90s, then Chancellor Fay Gale attended an ECU graduation ceremony at the Perth Concert Hall and was convinced of the superiority of holding UWA graduation ceremonies at Winthrop. 12:47 There was an idea once (late 80s) to follow the American idea of holding all the graduations together in the one ceremony. They went through the logistics of this and it was realised that it is not possible to hold a graduation ceremony for 1500 at UWA. 14:10 Overseas students particularly enjoy bringing their families to Winthrop Hall. UWA have an official photographer at the Undercroft and people can also take their own photos. 15:00 PhD students are given priority for extra tickets if they are available. 15:47 The graduates are given information on appropriate dress code. 16:10 Track 5 00:00 One of the academics objected to one of the graduates having her midriff showing. People have to use their own common sense. 00:43 The ceremony starts at .30pm Students have to attend from 6.15pm to check in and have a demonstration by the Graduation Officer of what they are required to do. The guests come in at 6.30pm. The graduation starts at 7.30pm with a procession coming in with the organ playing. The National Anthem is played and there are speeches. The degrees are conferred. 01:46 The ceremony finishes about 9pm. Eats and drinks are supplied on Whitfield Court. The area is now roped off and there is security as there used to be gate crashers 03:22 Audio Files Links to audio files <a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/e7600fdfaacebc6a043b81eaf5e2f323.mp3">Von_Bergheim, Interview 1, Track 1</a> <br /><a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/d2945e10ada945ad9aff84c0a821872c.mp3">Von_Bergheim, Interview 1, Track 2</a> <br /><a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/3f8b7ff831c94924be70166181d15020.mp3">Von_Bergheim, Interview 1, Track 3</a> <br /><a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/bbbd55dc1ddf1f9259283ae23cedec79.mp3">Von_Bergheim, Interview 1, Track 4</a> <br /><a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/da1bcf7e13a0f936db4dfe5db0a0b52e.mp3">Von_Bergheim, Interview 1, Track 5</a> <br /><a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/aa07b16dc876f7fbb80ca4ad5a468c2b.mp3">Von_Bergheim, Interview 2, Track 1</a> <br /><a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/bfb2735ec61002c97911a1303f0e890a.mp3">Von_Bergheim, Interview 2, Track 2</a> <br /><a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/16afe4b9e8051c1a76985ba91de51dbc.mp3">Von_Bergheim, Interview 2, Track 3</a> <br /><a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/40600b9e368eec9a5f32c30d406fc81b.mp3">Von_Bergheim, Interview 2, Track 4</a> <br /><a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/92142a8b6a0dacf348d9b70a43c8dffd.mp3">Von_Bergheim, Interview 3, Track 1</a> <br /><a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/8e28fe14f72f22d090134d5178c2898d.mp3">Von_Bergheim, Interview 3, Track 2</a> <br /><a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/6e13fb1b243efff4e9df2383abf9f7bf.mp3">Von_Bergheim, Interview 3, Track 3</a> <br /><a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/7ac9c13e5de5abccadad8247610e8088.mp3">Von_Bergheim, Interview 3, Track 4</a> <br /><a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/96fb5cac78ca6dbec259644ec3dd8a5c.mp3">Von_Bergheim, Interview 3, Track 5</a> Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Harvey von Bergheim interview, 17 October 2013, 24 October 2013 and 31 October 2013 Subject The topic of the resource Student Administration Description An account of the resource Harvey von Bergheim was born in Colombo, Sri Lanka and moved to Perth with his family in 1966. His first position in Administration at the University of Western Australia was as a clerk in the Registrar’s Office in 1969. From 1970-1979 Mr von Bergheim continued to work in the Registrar’s Office as a Statistics Clerk. In 1980 he took a job as a Media Control Clerk at the Tertiary Institution Service. In 1983 Mr von Bergheim returned to the University of Western Australia and worked as an Assistant Examinations Officer, which involved creating the examination timetables as well as assisting with graduations. More recently he has worked as the Manager of Student Administration and the Associate Director of Student Services. He retired from the University of Western Australia on 31 December 2013 after 44 years of service. Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource von Bergheim, Harvey Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available University of Western Australia Historical Society Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource Copyright holder University of Western Australia Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource MP3 files Type The nature or genre of the resource Oral History Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource UWA ORAL HISTORIES Description An account of the resource A collection of interviews with former UWA staff, recorded by the <a href="http://www.alumni.uwa.edu.au/community/historical-society" target="_blank">UWA Historical Society</a> to mark the Centenary of the University in 2013. <br />The UWA Historical Society’s <a href="http://www.alumni.uwa.edu.au/community/historical-society/oral-histories" target="_blank">Oral History Program</a> started as a project with four oral histories funded from Society resources. It was then expanded with support from every Faculty on campus, the Guild, Convocation and through private donations. Additional funding was received through a Heritage Grant. Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available University of Western Australia Historical Society Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource University of Western Australia Historical Society Oral History A resource containing historical information obtained in interviews with persons having firsthand knowledge. Interviewer The person(s) performing the interview John Bannister Interviewee The person(s) being interviewed John Ross Duration Length of time involved (seconds, minutes, hours, days, class periods, etc.) Interview 1: 58 minutes, 25 seconds Interview 2: 53 minutes, 13 seconds Interview 3: 1 hour, 3minutes Total: 2 hours, 54 minutes, 38 seconds Bit Rate/Frequency Rate at which bits are transferred (i.e. 96 kbit/s would be FM quality audio) 128 kbs Time Summary A summary of an interview given for different time stamps throughout the interview Interview 1 00:00:00 Introduction, origins, father’s war hero brother. North Sydney Boys High School - selective high school. Commonwealth Office of Education. UNESCO. University student on a full wage. 00:05:00 Liking psychology. Employee of the Commonwealth. Approval from the minister Paul Hasluck*. Working at the University of Sydney. Going to Princeton University. Special assistance service. 00:09:15 Australians and tennis. Personal assistant. Academic qualities and Mrs. Myers*. Myres Briggs type indicator. 00:14:45 White Anglo-Saxon Protestant stereotypes. Sydney University or UWA. 00:18:00 Why UWA? Memories of psychology. 00:21:45 Coming to UWA in 1961. Memories of UWA and Perth. University and women. The Tuart club. University wages. 00:25:55 Debate and learning. Academics very influential. Agriculture and Eric Underwood. Trace elements in the WA soil could be fixed. Gladstones and the potential for growing wines. 00:27:30 Discovery of mineral and economic potential of the state. The effect of migrants. Ron Taft and Alan Richardson. Assimilation of migrants into the state. 00:29:30 Deficiency in disabled facility. Aubrey Little*, Eldam Morey. The community of intellectualism in 1961. Alan Edwards and the New Fortune Theatre. Nolan paintings. Memories of Underwood and general intellectual staff. Faculty of Psychology. 00:34:00 Teaching and research university. George Seddon*. UWA and its intellectual internationalism. Asian and European influence. 00:38:20 Quality of students and staff. Standards – Princeton and international comparisons. Technical facilities at the university. 00:42:00 Psychometrics and publication in journals. Princeton, visual perception. The Ames Room. 00:46:50 Visual perception, developments of study and research. Light strip, impact on the brain. Moving signs. Betagraph*. Success in marketing. Gloucester park Betagraph. 00:51:35 Attempts to make money and funding. Television signals and Merrill Lynch*. Being inventive. Carnarvon tracking station. Establishment of the visual laboratory. 00:55:20 Australian Research Grants Committee. Cost of computers. Mathematical structure and mathematical analysis. NASA and startling research at UWA. Interview 2 00:00:00 Elaborating on the vision laboratory. Applying mathematical techniques. Becoming a full professor. 00:04:48 American academia and psychometric stuff. Computers and Visual Perception. Isaac Newton. Problems of displaying results. Research grant application. Psychometrics. Refugee Montey* and the Carnarvon tracking station. 00:10:20 Carnarvon, lab, getting equipment. The visual system and differences of the eye. Stereopsis experiments. Three dimensional psychometrics. Straight and dynamic stereopsis*. 00:14:25 Point stereoscopes. Information and storing of visual system. Resources of visual perception. 00:17:15 New lab and studies and UWA standing. New way of television. Random scanning. Monitoring systems. Sending encrypted pictures. The Bell Labs. Building a model of the encrypting method. Minister of defence. Trouble with American defence and Pine Gap. 00:22:40 Cheaper methods of display system and the Betagraph. UWA were beating the gong and the random scanning TV taken to Trade fair in Chicago. Prescott and the front page news. 00:25:00 Support from UWA. Donation and financial systems. Vice Chancellor and special meeting of the Senate. Being crucified by the Chancellor. University and decision-making committee. 00:29:00 No people who were support for the visual lab. Inventions. 00:30:55 Saccadies and vision laboratory. Amazing factors of the eye movement and judgement of a subject. Dave Bure – Moroney*. Nobel prize winner and the Korean institute. Movement of the eye and a stable image. 00:34:45 How does the system work. The brain makes the adjustment. Shifting point of reference. Working out cute experiments. Compression of space. 00:37:50 Travel. National Institutes for Health. Changes with the operation of the physiology of the eye. Movement of the eye in a lifetime. Working in the Bell labs. 00:40:30 Research at the bell labs. Money and huge discovery. Interaction, Cambridge and Commonwealth Fellow. Fellow of St John’s. Physiology. 00:43:35 Deputy Vice Chancellor of Research. Growth of the department and PhDs. Committee work, politics. Carmen Lawrence detests doctors. Strategic plan of the country. Medicine run from Melbourne. 00:47:11 Carmen Lawrence and the head of the planning committee for National and Research Council. MHNRC. Running the organisation. Development of career and directing the department. One Professor system. Retaining important people. First and second professor system. The professorial board. Reader and deputy professor. Status of professor has gone. The Doctor Professor. Interview 3 00:00:00 Seeing psychology of UWA. Memories of the temporary building and shambles. Lack of professor of psychology. Kenneth Walker* Professor. Comparison to the European views of psychology. Moral philosophy and the shame discipline. Walter Murdoch and Murdoch University. Split in psychology 00:04:55 Scientists and practitioners of psychology. Freud. Humanistic and scientific practitioners. Experiments and the science. Tension and internal conflict. Animals and experiments. 00:08:35 Struggling with the problem and becoming a reputable subject. Experimental psychology is harder. Humanistic and clinical proportion split. Changes in department and current perceptions. 00:11:45 Components of the department. Study in child study centre. Helping adult and mental illness. Friction between in medicine and psychologist. Interactions between Faculties. Understanding the history of psychology. Comparisons between Psychology and Law building. 00:18:11 Prescott era and entrenched views. Mandatory to wear a gown. University hierarchy. Staff meeting and impromptu speech. Keach* and the opened and closed mind. 00:21:51 Studies, animals. Jarvis* accountant, visual experiments on counting. The number four. 00:29:00 Animals, counting, making judgements on numbers. Brain and visual system. Quantitative calculations. Big groups in England. University College London and College de France fighting over findings. 00:33:33 Earliest development of perception. The Visual Cliff. Children, cats, octopus. Solidifying the community of academic learning. Drawing people from all sorts of disciplines. 00:37:50 Thoughts on university, specialities. Saccadic Eye Movements. 00:40:30 Changes in University – bureaucracy, money, community. Real research outside university. Training and teaching. Academy and Greek experience. 00:43:40 Learning, lecturing, studying, advice. Oppenheim* and lighting cigarettes and Tompkins* hand gestures. 00:47:25 Learning more and growing up. Joining in at the university. Changes. Psychology and expansion. Internet and social media. Staff and student interactions. 00:52:50 Improving the course structure. Teaching outside areas of interest. University jobs and the cost of high class cognac.. Centres of scholarship. Competitive, Cambridge and Oxford. Oxford and drunkenness. 00:57:00 High point of University the government and money. Menzies, Whitlam and Dawkins. University and mass education. Ratings and world standards. Harvard and lowering of standards. The quality of education. Final words and doing a dreary job. Surviving and poor quality of journals. Lang Hancock. Audio Files Links to audio files <a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/998d4cd1c8383e13be0b28fa4b909bc3.mp3">Ross, Interview 1, Track 1</a> <br /><a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/dddf228c2cf74eaea7c1da08223b2fb7.mp3">Ross, Interview 1, Track 2</a> <br /><a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/5a93a1e5cf0e0d70a4b984e86634618b.mp3">Ross, Interview 1, Track 3</a> Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource John Ross interview, 13 August 2012, 20 August 2012 and 27 August 2012 Subject The topic of the resource Science; Psychology Description An account of the resource Emeritus Professor John Ross began work in the department of Psychology at the University of Western Australia in 1961. In 1968 he was promoted to Senior Lecturer and in 1970 became the Department’s second Chair and later the Departmental Head. Professor Ross specialised in the field of saccadic eye movement and has garnered international recognition for his work with biological visual systems. Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource Ross, John Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available University of Western Australia Historical Society Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource Copyright holder University of Western Australia Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource MP3 files Type The nature or genre of the resource Oral History Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource UWA ORAL HISTORIES Description An account of the resource A collection of interviews with former UWA staff, recorded by the <a href="http://www.alumni.uwa.edu.au/community/historical-society" target="_blank">UWA Historical Society</a> to mark the Centenary of the University in 2013. <br />The UWA Historical Society’s <a href="http://www.alumni.uwa.edu.au/community/historical-society/oral-histories" target="_blank">Oral History Program</a> started as a project with four oral histories funded from Society resources. It was then expanded with support from every Faculty on campus, the Guild, Convocation and through private donations. Additional funding was received through a Heritage Grant. Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available University of Western Australia Historical Society Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource University of Western Australia Historical Society Oral History A resource containing historical information obtained in interviews with persons having firsthand knowledge. Interviewer The person(s) performing the interview John Bannister Interviewee The person(s) being interviewed Constantine Michael Duration Length of time involved (seconds, minutes, hours, days, class periods, etc.) Interview 1: 53 minutes, 45 seconds Interview 2: 56 minutes, 24 seconds Interview 3: 43 minutes, 21 seconds Total: 2 hours, 33 minutes, 30 seconds Bit Rate/Frequency Rate at which bits are transferred (i.e. 96 kbit/s would be FM quality audio) 128 kbs Time Summary A summary of an interview given for different time stamps throughout the interview Track 1 00:00:00 Born in North Perth. Schooling modern school. University. One uni. Tech school. Perfectly adequate. Impressions of UWA. Crawley baths, aspirations. Medical school. Sponsor by legacy. 00:04:46 Family background. Living in cluster of Northbridge with Greeks and Italians. Church Community – Greek Orthodox. Language. Kailis and Kukulas families. Re family. 00:08:39 Growth of church and community. Nearest school was Highgate. Father’s experience. The Cue mining town and the First World War. Father’s poor health. Mother was the matriarch. 00:11:55 Scholarship school. Academic high level. Cohort of bright children. Len Buckeridge*. Best scientists come from Modern school. Medicine was studied in Adelaide or Melbourne medical. Medicine and the community. Community-based school. 00:16:00 Going to Adelaide. Advice to do medicine. Competition increases. The junior medical work-force from the Eastern States. 1954. Newspaper story of students away from home as promotion. Return to WA in 1958. 00:20:10 First year to receive a medical degree from UWA. Accreditation of the school by the GMC. Memories of early years of University study. Revering teachers at University. Zoology botany, chemistry and physics. Harry Waring was a fantastic entertaining Englishman. Spermatogenesis. 00:23:30 Memories of St George’s College and Chemistry and Physics. Bruce Kendall*. Law school established, as opposed to Medical school. Botany, Anatomy and Physiology in prefab huts. Will Simmons*. Fantastic pathologist Ten Seldam.* 00:28:10 Seeing changes on return. Clinical placements in Royal Perth Hospital. Perth Chest Hospital opens. Gairdner Hospital. First group to get a WA degree. Pathology and Microbiology at Royal Perth. Reputation of University of Western Australia. The Florey Institute. 00:33:00 Comparisons between Adelaide and Perth. National service. Staying at St Marks. Coming back to UWA. 00:38:30 Broader non-academic education. Established university at UWA. Colleagues and staff community. Neville Stanley was keen on cricket. Competitive law and medicine. Lovely small university. Winthrop Hall is an academic monument. 00:42:00 Facilities and resources. Learning the ropes and talking about research. MD in obstetrics and gynaecology. Researching in your own university. MDWA. Academic staff were very helpful. 1973. Doing the English degree. University College London. Famous people and true academia. 1964. Gordon King foundation professor of obstetrics and gynaecology. Senior lecturer and lecturer. Harry Reece and John Martin*. 00:47:00 Harry Reece and John Martin* mould future. John Martin offers Senior Lecturer and Associate Professor. Adjunct Professor and other titles debase the currency. Appointed the chair. 00:51:20 Impressions of UWA and its level of pre-clinical and Medical research. Professor Saint. Mary Locket* and pharmacology. Co-researching between departments. NHMRC funding. Ten Seldam.* Strong endocrinology. Roland Hanal* and Professor King. Excellent people around. Track 2 00:00:00 Returning to WA. Career decisions. Money and sterile situation. Academic university salary and recognition. Comparisons between pay and department and hours worked. Health Department recognition and clinical loading. Private practice colleagues. 00:04:05 Gordon King and John Martin, Pat Gyles – 1966. Short-staffed on return. Attitudes toward lifestyle balance. Bruce Armstrong. Training and ongoing professional interaction. Top 2% of intelligent students. 00:09:07 Mature students are very good. Research was expected of you. MD thesis. Funding depending on research. John Newnham and King Edward Memorial Hospital. Size of numbers in department. Big problem in funding. Employing people to get research done. Catch 22 situation. 00:13:10 Interest in personal career and high blood pressure and pregnancy. Professor Rosenthal and Laurie Beilin. Michael Le suoef. Collaboration and research. 00:18:20 Collaboration and RAINE study. Tracking foetuses in utero and watching them grow. Object of the RAINE study. John Newnham and the growth of the child. Ultrasound. 00:21:00 Honorary foundation fellows of the Ultra Sound Society. Looking for spina bifida and Down Syndrome. Memories of sabbatical Norman Gant Parkville hospital. University College Hospital. Students have a broad base of study. Working and clinical exposure. Genetic Ambiothesis. 00:29:44 Returning home, returning to England 1973. Ultrasound pretty crude. Doppler ultrasound. Standard practice and foetal wellbeing. John Newnham, sheep and lung function. 00:35:40 Inter-faculty interaction. Animal research beyond reproach. 00:37:00 Gordon King and RPH and teaching hospital. Neo-natal unit. Prof Hanall* laboratory and the foetus. Cinderella depot. King Edward children’s maternity hospital. Gynaecological cancer unit. Surgical facilities. Lack of an intensive care unit. KEMH should be relocated. Dangers in isolation with disease. 00:44:20 Leaving and Douglas Enquiry. Memories of John Newnham. Establishing a chair – Winthrop Professor. Reputation as foetal specialist. Women’s and children’s foundation. Endocrine research. RAINE foundation. 00:48:20 Memories of Promotion Associate Professor of Obstetrics and Gynaecology. Head of Department in 1988. Long-term planning committee. Sydney. Lance Townsend had best departments. Geoffrey Robinson. 00:53:45 Excellence proportional to the people running the department. Best foetal med units in the country. Head of Department fighting at Faculty. Patron of the Medical Student Society. TEE. Students fall out of medicine. Track 3 00:00:00 Experience of Head of Department. Dean Stephen Swartz. An important time for the Faculty of Medicine. NHMRC funding. 00:05:50 Potential of the university. 1988 convenor of the working party to review regulations for private consultative work. Personal areas of expertise hypertension and Rhesus babies. Funding research and people and travel. 00:09:20 John Newnham complex obstetric department. Vice Chancellor’s working department. Professor Smith and the Art Gallery. Comparisons with alumni in the US. Strong alumni connections. Overseas students and the Colombo plan. 00:12:50 Administration and support. Competitiveness, funding and research. NHMRC producing money. Paul Johnson and embracing reforms. 00:16:10 Reforms vs. changes. External manager in Singapore. Attraction of students in Singapore. Maintaining interest in personal research. 00:20:10 Control the blood pressure and delivering the baby. Prevention of pre-term birth. Changes from genes to artificial conception. Senior examiner of the Australian Medical Council. 00:26:25 Concerns for UWA. Research institute and working with Notre Dame University, comparison of UWA and Notre Dame. Director and Governor of Notre Dame. 00:31:14 Medical services of St John of God. Health Care Advisor of WA Department of Health. 00:34:55 Rural community, rural health services, rural obstetrics and safety. Involvement with Beyond Blue, clinical depression, post-natal depression, depression in medical students. 00:39:17 Awards, Officer of the Order of Australia. Looking back on the experience of UWA. Audio Files Links to audio files <a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/e9b1c86fa09754f46d27b9ea79767e1d.mp3">Michael_Con, Interview 1, Track 1</a> <br /><a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/09f7fdb9aabf1b78a7cc268fbd10033c.mp3">Michael_Con, Interview 1, Track 2</a> <br /><a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/8215ea96d09d651822fafc7839ed2bde.mp3">Michael_Con, Interview 1, Track 3</a> Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Constantine Michael interview, 6 November 2012 Subject The topic of the resource Medicine Description An account of the resource Professor Constantine ("Con") Michael holds a Bachelor of Medicine and Bachelor of Surgery (University of Western Australia), Doctor of Medicine (University of Western Australia) and Diploma of Diagnostic Ultrasound. At the University of Western Australia he became Lecturer in 1966, Senior Lecturer in 1967, Associate Professor in 1977, Head of Medicine from 1988-1999 and Professor of Obstetrics and Gynaecology at from 1987-1999. Professor Michael’s research has focused extensively on hypertension in pregnant women and other areas of reproductive technology. Professor Michael was appointed to the Agency Management Committee in March 2009 as a member with expertise in health, education and training. He was reappointed in September 2012 for a period of three years. He is the Principal Adviser of Medical Workforce for the Western Australia Health Department, Consultant Medical Adviser for St John of God Health Care Inc. Professor Michael is the current Chair of the Western Australian Board of the Medical Board of Australia, Director of the Australian Medical Council, a member of various state and national medical committees and Chair of the St John of God National Ethics Committee and Chair of the Reproductive Technology Council of Western Australia. He is a Director and Governor of the University of Notre Dame Australia and Chair of its Advisory Board of the School of Medicine Fremantle. Professor Michael is also a Fellow of the Royal Australian and New Zealand College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists (a past President) and Fellow of the Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists, London (a previous Sims Black Professor). Among his numerous awards, Professor Michael was named an Officer of the Order of Australia in 2001 for service to medicine, particularly in the field of obstetrics and gynaecology, and medical education. Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource Michael, Constantine Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available University of Western Australia Historical Society Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource Copyright holder University of Western Australia Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource MP3 files Type The nature or genre of the resource Oral History Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource UWA ORAL HISTORIES Description An account of the resource A collection of interviews with former UWA staff, recorded by the <a href="http://www.alumni.uwa.edu.au/community/historical-society" target="_blank">UWA Historical Society</a> to mark the Centenary of the University in 2013. <br />The UWA Historical Society’s <a href="http://www.alumni.uwa.edu.au/community/historical-society/oral-histories" target="_blank">Oral History Program</a> started as a project with four oral histories funded from Society resources. It was then expanded with support from every Faculty on campus, the Guild, Convocation and through private donations. Additional funding was received through a Heritage Grant. Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available University of Western Australia Historical Society Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource University of Western Australia Historical Society Oral History A resource containing historical information obtained in interviews with persons having firsthand knowledge. Interviewer The person(s) performing the interview John Bannister Interviewee The person(s) being interviewed Paul McLeod Duration Length of time involved (seconds, minutes, hours, days, class periods, etc.) Interview 1: 51 minutes, 44 seconds Interview 2: 47 minutes, 7 seconds Interview 3: 52 minutes, 26 seconds Total: 2 hours, 31 minutes, 17 seconds Bit Rate/Frequency Rate at which bits are transferred (i.e. 96 kbit/s would be FM quality audio) 128 kbs Time Summary A summary of an interview given for different time stamps throughout the interview Track 1 00:00:00 Introduction. Background, South Australia. Scholarship and Adelaide University. PhD at UWA. Davies, economic history and university housing. Economics. University days in Adelaide. Staff student interaction. 00:05:00 Changes. Interactions. Impressions of UWA. Comparisons to Melbourne and Sydney – Reg encourages people to come to UWA. Memories of Reg Appleyard leader of the group. Anglophile system. Petridis*. Travel from Perth. 00:10:00 Appleyard’s sales pitch. Ease of living in Perth, isolation. Micro economics. David Treloar. Environmental economics. Impressions of the university, comparisons to Adelaide. Architecture. 00:17:05 Budgetary restraints and entitlements. Working environment. Academic community at UWA. Tradition of morning tea. People interact with one another. 00:20:00 Student/staff relations. MBA students. Age of staff and students. Logically entitled to be here. Concerns of getting on the map. Part of the community. Perth isolated. Festival and world class or back water. 00:24:00 Creativity. Establishing a high quality MBA program. Interfaculty relations. Isolated faculties. Sporting competitions and social aspect. Trying to reduces layers of administration. Law, Education, Economics – Faculty of Economics, Commerce and Law. Super-Faculty doesn’t exist in the same way today. 00:30:30 Sharing facilities and buildings becomes too difficult. Direction of the Faculty. Regulations. Increasing the options and units available. Disciplines, core and peripheral subjects. Agricultural and environment. 00:35:40 Ken Clements, the research centre and economic research. Structures at the university. Connections with business. WA Government and Brianne Burke and gold tax. 00:38:50 Ken Clements from Chicago, desire for research. Mainstream economics. Micro and macro. Ken a leader in the group. PhD conference. Roger Bowden*. International reputation. Qualitative skills. Building the links. Unemployed academic. 00:45:30 David Treloar agricultural economics. UWA person. Sense of what is important. Head of Department. Passionate for students. Stickler for rules. Life was sport. Reg was interested in the big picture. 00:49:00 Douglas Vickers. Strict and straight-laced. Devout Christian. Everything is about work. Everybody has their place. US course focus. Intellectual pursuits. Track 2 00:00:00 Paintings. Frazer Waters* and the War over Israel. Modigliani print. Intimate university. Social interactions. Each faculty has broadened its view on things. WA’s cross-disciplinary decision. 00:04:20 Diversity of courses. cooperation and interfaculty entrepreneurial. Evolution of courses. Variety of students. Cross-faculty work. Academic connection. Change. Students branch out. 00:07:05 CBRA* and the Americas cup. Interface into the wide world. University connections and applied research. State government commissions research for planning the America’s Cup. Sponsors from well-regarded corporates. Sponsors and the impact on the city. 00:11:20 Interviewing the Gucci and the syndicate. Solutions. Early career people and corporate analysis. Government and market research. Perth is showcased. Incredible technology. 00:15:50 Cottesloe beach. Attractiveness of UWA to the business community. Participation of teaching with classes. Better understanding of university. Businesses attached to the university. CBRA and applied research. Repository of all information. Love - hate relationships and isolated university. Resources are needed from business. 00:21:56 CBRA. Current Business School. Board meeting and academics. Car parking and coffee. Connections. Mining companies and the university. Work connections. Small issues with CBRA. 00:25:28 Community and international eyes on UWA. Things change over time. Relationship with Asia. Business School attracting students from Hong Kong and Asia. UWA reputation. 00:28:55 Attraction of UWA for international students. People important in the spear head of UWAs internationalisation. Darrell Turkington* belief in attracting students from Asia. Bruce Macintosh* and international centre. 00:032:28 MBA fair in America – putting self out there. Punching above your weight. Sandstone university. Function for graduates in Asia are well attended. UWA reputation and good degree was highly regarded. Paul Johnston and Alan Robson. 00:38:10 Alan Robson. Graduation student from Asia and Robson doesn’t stand on ceremony. Alan relates to the institutions. 00:41:53 Nurturing of the Business School at the university. Revenue is moved away to other things. University management of funding. The problems of the super faculty. One of the oldest MBA program. Underutilised base at the university. 00:46:04 Nurturing takes place and recognition. World class Business School and the value of the faculty to the university. Track 3 00:00:00 Development of the Business School. Revamping the Faculty of Commerce and the Business School. WA Business School. Approaches to the outside world. David Johnstone knew the university inside and out 00:03:35 Other faculties and the new building. Solutions for money and new building. Tennis court site and Business School site. Purpose-built building. 00:07:52 Logical to give the Business School a new location. Benefits of the southern end of the school. Parking. River views and access. Crunching numbers and student projection and overseas funding. Traditional or modern vision of the building. 00:11:20 Tradition of the school. Modern statements. Architects asked to make projections. A turning point for the Business School. Facilities for students. Fulfilling objective and coping with numbers. Different style of building. Zone problems and modern planning. Clients and staff. 00:16:48 Clients students and community relationships. Relating to students in a different way. Talking to the staff. Students and the change in dynamic. 00:19:48 Change in dynamic and the change in technology. Contact with students. Turning point and the virtual university. Need to be on campus. Lecture on line. Do staff need to have an office at UWA. Globalisation. 00:24:11 Nature of large institutions. University of Strathclyde. Online students and international students. interacting and turning up to university. Changes to peoples offices. Everything on the computer. No books in the office. Need for a library. 00:27:58 Earliest research projects. Advertising and tobacco. Applied policy oriented research. Research into rents and river views. Natural research problems. Harvesting fish stocks. Reigning in the commercial catch. Licensed and recreation fishers. Policy fishing. Working out models. Research graphs recreational and commercial – sustainable harvest. Abalone and snapper fish populations. 00:35:45 Rock lobster fishing and stocks. Understanding catching fish and chasing fish. Rational behaviour. 00:39:11 Looking at career and retirement. Changes in retirement from university and social sciences. Internationalisation and university position and rankings. Isolated city running with people on the world stage. Mining and eyes on WA. Shipping and the university. 00:44:50 Historically a part of Asia. Ahead of its time. challenge to be positioned well. China Singapore and Hong Kong. Pushed along by the changes. Strategically heading off. 00:47:44 Reasons that changes occur. White papers tell that Asia is appointment. The University’s strategic plan. Dependence. Student and staff members view for UWAs future. Good track record. Wealthiest economy in the world. Mining boom and WA University. Economy and struggle and UWA in a good position. Campus has a lot of advantages. Audio Files Links to audio files <a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/d100a15e045dd95191dbcb42fc5a9e28.mp3">McLeod, Interview 1, Track 1</a> <br /><a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/85e2a28a409d6a7bbe89498c1bbe5593.mp3">McLeod, Interview 1, Track 2</a> <br /><a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/8b06e23307093441cb10b2738af9b538.mp3">McLeod, Interview 1, Track 3</a> Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Paul McLeod interview, 25 October 2012 Subject The topic of the resource Business, Economics Description An account of the resource This is an interview with Associate Professor of Economics at the University of Western Australia Paul McLeod. His teaching encompasses a variety of microeconomics courses including business economics in the MBA and M.Com courses, third year advanced microeconomic theory, Honours public policy economics, and resource and environmental economics in the M.Ec. He also contributes to the teaching of Mining Management for engineering students. Professor McLeod’s academic positions have included Dean of the Faculty of Economics and Commerce; Head of the Department of Economics; Executive Dean, Faculties of Education, Economics and Commerce, and Law; and he was the inaugural Dean of the University of Western Australia Business School. Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource McLeod, Paul Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available University of Western Australia Historical Society Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource Copyright holder University of Western Australia Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource MP3 files Type The nature or genre of the resource Oral History Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource UWA ORAL HISTORIES Description An account of the resource A collection of interviews with former UWA staff, recorded by the <a href="http://www.alumni.uwa.edu.au/community/historical-society" target="_blank">UWA Historical Society</a> to mark the Centenary of the University in 2013. <br />The UWA Historical Society’s <a href="http://www.alumni.uwa.edu.au/community/historical-society/oral-histories" target="_blank">Oral History Program</a> started as a project with four oral histories funded from Society resources. It was then expanded with support from every Faculty on campus, the Guild, Convocation and through private donations. Additional funding was received through a Heritage Grant. Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available University of Western Australia Historical Society Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource University of Western Australia Historical Society Oral History A resource containing historical information obtained in interviews with persons having firsthand knowledge. Interviewer The person(s) performing the interview John Bannister Interviewee The person(s) being interviewed Paul Lloyd Duration Length of time involved (seconds, minutes, hours, days, class periods, etc.) Interview 1: 51 minutes, 24 seconds Interview 2: 50 minutes, 30 seconds Interview 3: 33 minutes, 42 seconds Total: 2 hours, 15 minutes, 36 seconds Bit Rate/Frequency Rate at which bits are transferred (i.e. 96 kbit/s would be FM quality audio) 128 kbs Time Summary A summary of an interview given for different time stamps throughout the interview Interview 1 00:00:00 Paul James Lloyd born in Shropshire. Coming to Australia 1971 and schooling. Hopes to study architecture and accounting. Degree choices, career paths. Commerce degree. Impressions of University of Western Australia. Save the Children Book Sale. Bursar at Thomas More. Stepping it another world. Impressions of University of Western Australia and Murdoch University. 00:05:50 Thoughts of Murdoch University. Thoughts of degree choice. Memories of coming to University of Western Australia. Enrolment process of the 1980s. Orientation process and classes. Finding your way through UWA. 00:09:35 Initial transition and shock. Preparation, students and academic work, doing work and the experience. Academic qualifications and motivating self. Community of University of Western Australia. Students and lectures. Connection to tutors and staff – lecturers as people. Staff and clients today. Delusion of students as a client. Marking and performance measures. 00:15:55 More concerned with the individual. Thoughts of a developing career. Part-time Masters study. And part-time tutoring. Ongoing job at University of Western Australia. Direction of career. Different process for employment of academics. Tutoring and lecturing. University is a place for a career. Comparing work in the corporate world. 00:22:45 Thoughts of student and employee at University of Western Australia. Memories of the university in the 1990s. Hierarchical system. The benign hierarchy and the god professor system. Knowing your place at the university. 00:29:20 Not meant to speak. Understanding by example. The social benefits of the university. A 9-5 place. Being a student was a full time job. Expectation to be around the place. Comparison to the student of today. Part-time work. Interaction with the tutor and students. 00:34:20 Treasurer of University House. Memories of University House. The University House committee. The bar and menu. Comments Complaints book. Social interactions. Interfaculty relations encouraged. Bar manager goes to gaol. 00:40:55 Inter-faculty relations. The warring factions. A unified whole portrayed to the community. Faculty interactions and faculty meetings. Self-serving faculties. 00:47:06 The reputation of the University. Pride in traditionalism. Curtin, Murdoch and the real university. Needs of the struggling student and the survival of the fittest. Competing with other universities. Not as easy for the successful self-motivated students to distinguish themselves. Interview 2 00:00:00 Moving into the role of lecturer and views of the student of the 1990s. Attracting less-motivated students. Lower achievers in the range. Changes in assessing and teaching. Building students up from the basics. Lower entry scores, student quality drop. The question of money. Fees and home circumstances affecting the students. Incurring a debt. Getting the degree as fast as possible. Students self-funding. Different units and different HECS debts. 00:06:20 Changes to the business school. The trans-Atlantic name. Small management subject. Much smaller structure. Dean elected by the faculty. Drifting into a managerial approach. Grouping faculties. Grouped with law and education. Changes to the election system and the structures merge. Paul McLeod*. Moving toward a larger model. 00:10:50 Buildings and infrastructure. Design by P&O. Explanation of the buildings. The change to the management authority, immediacy of interaction between staff and students. Security. Working from home. The loss of the community. University meetings conducted at the morning tea. 00:15:30 The management of the University. Boards and committees. Changes and the Learning and Teaching Committee. Faculty board. Board of Studies and Academic Council. Changes and decisions made well in advance. Talking with some meaningful outcome. Leadership and Vice Chancellor Smith. Fay Gale. Faculty did not have an easy relationship with Fay Gale. Restructure and merger. Opposing the Vice Chancellery. Success of the Faculty in opposing change. Dept VC Roy Lourens. Bob Wood’s impression of Samson. Dissolving structure. 00:20:55 Bob Wood has a difficult relationship with accounting and finance. Setting of course materials, salary loading and market demand. A great deal of tension in University centrally. Allan Robson dvc and VC. Schreuder*. Allan Robson instigates new structure. People broadly happy. Decisions without Faculty interaction. Layers of bureaucracy – academics have less input. Larger bureaucracy and government reporting. 00:24:43 Allan Robson and the modern movement of the University. Predecessor did not change things the same way. Paul Johnson and his direction. University’s financial approach. Serving on Academic Board. Elected member. The system of the voting and decision-making on the academic board. Academic Council more operational. Elected to board and within the board. Interest in policy making and nominating. 00:30:37 Experiences of initiatives at the Business School. Name change. Ken Robertson. Perceptions of the school. Paul McLeod and the new building. Old perceptions of the front door and the sheep pens. Renovations and locations for the new school. Tracey Haughton*. Concerns about the design. Restructuring of Faculty. The Graduate School of Management & School of Economics and Commerce. 00:37:40 First time for the restructure happening from within. New course structure. Postgraduate offerings and future initiatives. Rewriting the MBA rules. Slow evolutionary system. Overall University structure. Structures of the BCom. 00:43:27 Personal ability to do academic work. Tutor and lecturer and administration. Course structures and assessing learning directives. Lecturers and extra duties. Growth in administrative responsibility. Interactions and specific individual skills. Formal performance measures. Accountability. Interview 3 00:00:00 Ideas of internationalisation of University of Western Australia. The change of emphasis. Contacts with polytechnics in Singapore. Working harder to maintain 20% of international students. Full time international negotiators employed. Reason for changes. Expense associated with studying in Australia. Projections of the University ranking. In the Group of 8. 00:04:32 Paul Johnson* and the international standing. The success of the response to change. Technology and online courses. Stanford University and interaction. Lectures online. Gradual evolution, Second Life and online word. Virtual university. The University experience about more than just a degree. Removing structural barriers. Bureaucracy and the academics’ time. Annual development report writing. 00:12:00 Encouragement of leadership and of staff. University of Western Australia on a global scale. Number 96. Ratings and impact. Nobel Prize winner. Building beyond a community outside Australia. Specialization using target areas. MBA in mining. Change in the collective character of the staff. Long-term and staff moving on. Staff career path. 00:18:15 Personal future and direction. Enjoying the job. Concerns and question of the new student. Idea and exchange. Few examples of discipline and misconduct. The character of the school system. Students less self-effacing. Students have a greater sense of self. 00:23:12 Recollections of misconduct. PROSH pranks and the shiny new Volvo. Hole dug in the terrace and the lobster. The nature of the sense of camaraderie. Fewer characters at the university. Barriers and sense of fun. Demands on time. Sense of community and sense of home. Entering the system and leaving the institution. 00:30:21 Looking back on the experience to date. The university on the edge of the world. University of Western Australia technology and international image perception. Phrase that springs to mind. UNIVERSITY. The University that does not need qualification. 00:33:46 Audio Files Links to audio files <a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/b205e26733c65d5898fdc22fa297c300.mp3">Lloyd, Interview 1, Track 1</a> <br /><a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/2e7d766664a8921bad97b58fde3e4071.mp3">Lloyd, Interview 1, Track 2</a> <br /><a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/0843cbdde2ce7113868d3c69d4b9af9e.mp3">Lloyd, Interview 1, Track 3</a> Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Paul Lloyd interview, 19 November 2012 Subject The topic of the resource Business Description An account of the resource During the interview Paul Lloyd discusses at length his experiences of the University of Western Australia, firstly as a student from 1985, then as tutor, lecturer and Sub-Dean of the Business School. Inspired to make a career as an academic at the university early in his studies, Mr Lloyd speaks at length of the changes he sees in place when comparing his career path progression to that available to students today. He currently works closely with students and has been involved in admissions committees as well as the establishment of new courses at the University of Western Australia. Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource Lloyd, Paul Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available University of Western Australia Historical Society Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource Copyright holder University of Western Australia Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource MP3 files Type The nature or genre of the resource Oral History Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource UWA ORAL HISTORIES Description An account of the resource A collection of interviews with former UWA staff, recorded by the <a href="http://www.alumni.uwa.edu.au/community/historical-society" target="_blank">UWA Historical Society</a> to mark the Centenary of the University in 2013. <br />The UWA Historical Society’s <a href="http://www.alumni.uwa.edu.au/community/historical-society/oral-histories" target="_blank">Oral History Program</a> started as a project with four oral histories funded from Society resources. It was then expanded with support from every Faculty on campus, the Guild, Convocation and through private donations. Additional funding was received through a Heritage Grant. Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available University of Western Australia Historical Society Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource University of Western Australia Historical Society Oral History A resource containing historical information obtained in interviews with persons having firsthand knowledge. Interviewer The person(s) performing the interview Julia Wallis Interviewee The person(s) being interviewed Rosalind Lindsay Location The location of the interview Shenton Park, W.A. Duration Length of time involved (seconds, minutes, hours, days, class periods, etc.) Interview 1: 43 hours 56 seconds Interview 2: 1 hour 33 minutes 2 seconds Total: 2 hours 16 minutes 58 seconds Bit Rate/Frequency Rate at which bits are transferred (i.e. 96 kbit/s would be FM quality audio) 128 kbs Time Summary A summary of an interview given for different time stamps throughout the interview Interview 1 Track 1 00:00 Introduction by Julia Wallis 00:41 Track 2 00:00 Born Rosalind Catherine Creese in Hounslow, Middlesex, UK on 27 June 1935. Evacuated to Cardiff for six months during the War. Came home at Christmas 1944. Did 11+ at Gumley House, Isleworth. Started nursing. Did some clerical work. Then decided to learn more about agriculture. 02:46 Worked on a farm in Hampshire for a year. Then attended Hampshire Farm Institute. Worked on two or three farms doing dairy work and then decided she wanted to travel. 04:04 Booked a passage on The Southern Cross, which travelled to Sydney via Fremantle. Her mother had a cousin living in Sydney but she had always been intrigued by Australia. 05:40 She called into the Department of Agriculture and asked for a job in agriculture in Australia. She was sent to see Dr M.C. Franklin who worked with CSIRO and was setting up a meat research laboratory at the University of Sydney farm in Camden. The farm was used by the university veterinary students for their practical work. CSIRO was also setting up various research units into dairying, meat and poultry. Rosalind lived in a hostel that housed the vet students for their 6 months practical. 07:06 She met her future husband, David Lindsay, who was working as a postgraduate at the sheep research block which was attached to the University of Sydney. 07:58 She was made very welcome by Dr Franklin who lived with his family in Cobbitty, a little village outside Camden. 08:31 Track 3 00:00 David and Rosalind married on 24 June 1961 at St Paul’s Church in Cobbitty. David had come from a dairy farm at Dapto south of Wollongong. He carried on with his research work and finished his PhD. Their eldest son was born on 1 July 1962. 02:00 After his PhD had been accepted, the family moved to Pullman, Whitman Country, Washington, USA for a postdoctoral year. They were living there when President Kennedy was shot on 22 November 1963. Their second child, Kate, was born during in December 1963. 03:13 They returned to Sydney but it was difficult to get funding for animal agricultural research work. There was a problem with the fertility in ewes in Western Australia and David got the job at UWA as his specialist field was reproductive physiology. Professor Robinson who was David’s PhD supervisor was a graduate of the University of Western Australia and a friend of Professor Reg Moir who was not then a Professor but was working in the Animal Science Department with Professor Underwood. 05:22 They arrived in Perth on 2 January 1967 with three children and were met at the airport by the Moirs and taken to their house for lunch. The airport was very rural! They were booked into the Captain Stirling Hotel for a few days. 06:12 They found a University house that had been recently vacated at 3 Arras Street. Their furniture was on the way over from the eastern states. They were able to borrow some from people in the Animal Science Department but quite a lot from the Tuart Club Newcomers Store. It was a simple house that was built just after the Second World War. {Arras Street had been subsumed by Sir Charles Gairdner Hospital but it ran off Monash Avenue just before Hospital Avenue} Similar houses still exist in Parkway. The University also bought some private houses as temporary housing for overseas and interstate staff in the late 1970s. 09:14 The housing was provided for a year to give people a start. The Lindsay’s moved to Broadway, Nedlands in order to be close to the University and so that David could ride his bicycle to work. They moved to Shenton Park in 1974. 10:10 The Tuart Club also had monthly meetings and a Newcomers Club that did informal activities. Having young children, Rosalind could not always attend these evening activities. They also held activities in the day time such as coffee mornings and things at weekends that would involve the whole family. 11:13 The Lindsays and their children made friends with the families that lived in houses that backed onto their garden in Arras Street. The children went to the University kindergarten run by Dr Little and later to Nedlands Primary School. 12:48 Track 4 00:00 Rosalind did visit David at work. In fact, wives were encouraged to be interested in their husband’s work. The Series Club was a social club for the Animal Science staff and their wives. They had dinner parties at each other’s houses and arranged social events. 02:03 When they took the 4th year students on a farm tour it meant the staff already knew each other. There was a strong link between the University of Western Australia and the Western Australian farming community. It was a better relationship than that in New South Wales. 04:04 The University of Western Australia staff in Agriculture would often be up early and work late due to their type of work. 04:54 The Music Department were also very active in the community. Then the Festival of Perth became the University of Western Australia outreach. Rosalind thinks that the people of Perth feel some ownership of the University which was not the case in Sydney. 06:09 The Tuart Club had started before World War II. They had an Open House at one of the houses in Dalkeith each year. The Club made sure that every newcomer felt welcome and what services were available. In the days before Google their expertise was invaluable to new people. 07:53 There was also a welcome party that was held on behalf of the Vice Chancellor. It was held in February or March and people who had arrived in the last 6 months were invited. It was generally a cocktail party that would be held in the Sunken Garden. 08:33 Gradually the population was changing. More women were working and wives of the Vice Chancellors had ideas to do things differently. 08:56 The good thing about the cocktail party was that you would meet new people from all over the University. 10:07 Track 5 00:00 If you were interested you soon found yourself part of the Newcomers Committee. Rosalind became involved with the Newcomers Store. It was open one day a week but she also had the key so she could assist new arrivals on an ad hoc basis. 01:20 They also had Newcomers Coffee Mornings. There was a book group. They met in the Child Study Centre and at each other’s houses. There was a rule not to “out-cake” the last hostess! 02:47 There was a Wildflower Group. They would visit Kings Park and local native gardens from March to October. They would also have more far-flung excursions. 03:38 The monthly meetings offered an interesting speaker, such as Jeremy Green from the WA Museum who spoke about Dutch shipwrecks. The meetings would be held on campus in different faculty lecture theatres. 04:22 The interest groups would report what had happened during the year at the AGM. 05:36 In the early sixties it was suggested that a charity event be held rather than just social activities. Miriam Cooper was one of the early people behind this idea. They didn’t have a book sale at first. They started off a Save the Children Interest Group and sewed pyjamas to donate or other goods. They had concerts to raise money. Also a brass rubbing display. 07:12 Study leave was an important part of university life and academics were encouraged to go overseas every 7 years in order to bring back fresh ideas. The Lindsay’s went to France to their equivalent of CSIRO. 09:58 Going overseas also helped to revitalise the Tuart Club. The brass rubbings were an example of this. 10:46 There was also a painting exhibition. 11:06 Books were suggested as something else that could be sold to generate money as well as cakes. It took off. The first store was in Waratah Avenue. 11:39 Interview 2 Track 1 00:00 Introduction by Julia Wallis 00:39 Track 2 00:00 Rosalind was involved in the Save the Children Book Sale after the 1970s but used to drop books off before that to the garage at the back of a house in Bruce Street owned by the Edmonds family where they would be sorted and stored. Dr Edmonds was part of the medical faculty. His family have been involved since that time. 01:10 Due to the oversupply of books, the University was approached and agreed to offer a University owned house in Myers Street which was to be demolished at some stage. 01:47 The University made available the grounds truck for moving books from storage to the sale at the Undercroft. 02:27 Appeals for books were made around the campus, Uni News, the local press and sometimes in The West Australian. 03:10 The sorting was done between Christmas and the book sale in July at that stage. After the book sale was over not many books were received. People were tired and gearing up for the holiday season. Also, the South of the River branch of Save the Children had a book sale associated with Murdoch and Curtin Universities after the University of Western Australia sale and they didn’t want to take books that should be going to that sale. 04:04 People who came to the book sale would tell their friends and their friends would offer books. The university switchboard would field these calls for them and tell them the dates of the book sale. Books would be piled up outside the door as the sorting place was not manned all week. 05:18 Soon they needed more room and the university offered the use of the back of Shenton House. Then they moved to one of the university houses in Arras Street. It had a protected veranda and reasonable access. 06:12 The University was very generous in assisting with the Save the Children Book Sale. Perhaps they thought it was good PR? They assisted with housing the books and with little things that cropped up along the way. Later on, they allowed a banner to be erected at the front of the campus at the Stirling Highway intersection with Winthrop Avenue. The theatres administration took responsibility for the bookings on campus and the staff their assisted as well. The theatre staff assisted with ensuring that there was Public Liability Insurance. 07:57 The book sale had been held at the Undercroft for many years. At first it was a stall in Waratah Avenue and St Catherine’s College but this space was not large enough. 08:38 The book sale is well and truly part of the university calendar but permission is requested to hold the book sale each year. The sale was in July when the university operated under terms. With semesters, the book sale moved to August. It is a date that does not interfere with the university exams. 10:35 Chess Removals have been helping for quite some time with the set up for no charge. 11:33 There is a plan of what books go where. It has altered a bit over the years to reflect changing times but they try not to change things too much as regular attendees like to go to where they think their particular stand will be located. It also makes it easier for the helpers if things don’t change too much. The Australiana collectors tend to get there on the first night and those books sell very quickly. 12:19 There is a team of people who set up. If the sale opens on Friday evening, things are being brought across on Wednesday afternoon. Signs are put up on Thursday morning and a team of people bring the books in on Thursday afternoon. The remainder of the books are brought in on Friday. They are normally all unpacked by Friday lunchtime. 13:13 In earlier years, graduate students were paid as labour at the Depot. The team needs to be strong and prepared to work hard. Trolleys can be used in the Undercroft. The books are now stored at the corner of Underwood Avenue and Brockway in Floreat. At one stage the books were stored in the old Zoology Department near St Georges College. Every box of books is marked with their category. 14:57 Recently students have been volunteering to help as this gets accredited on their student record for community work. In 2013 people from the University Camp for Kids helped. They were given a donation. Somebody on the SCF Committee has made it their job to liaise with the students and have a stall on Orientation Day. 16:34 Rosalind liaised with the post graduate volunteers for several years. Notices were put up around campus and at the Guild seeking help. A list of interested people would be made and be handed to the Convenor. It worked very well. It was a sort of quid pro quo for all the assistance given by UWA. 17:41 At the depot, donated books are unpacked and sorted quickly. Books that cannot be sold are recycled. The books are then boxed to be categorised by the volunteers. As well as Australiana and Western Australian interest, there are hardback and paperback fiction, biography and speciality subjects. There are a lot of researchers who attend the sale to pick up books about Western Australia. 19:56 They try to make sure the books are all in good order as there is not enough room. Third copies that aren’t in such good condition may be sold for less money around the metro area. 20:45 Some people who are specialists in their field help to categorise the books and decide whether they should even be in the sale. Some of the Committee have become knowledgeable over the years and have used catalogues from second hand book dealers to increase their knowledge. 22:18 The book are priced and packed into boxes. They are now using Baxter boxes that are used by the hospitals. Previous to this wine cartons were used! The boxes mustn’t be over filled for health and safety reasons. They must be not more than 15 kg. 22:43 Towards the end of the sale boxes are books are sold. 23:58 Track 3 00:00 Pricing is crucial which is where the specialist marking is essential to not undervalue or overvalue. Car manuals can be very valuable even if they might not be in such good condition. 02:46 Sometimes new people work with a specialist to increase their knowledge. In the early days, Mrs Trish Benwell and Cath Prider used to price the Australiana and Western Australia books. They got quite competitive! They studied catalogues and visited book shops around town to increase their knowledge. 03:44 It was soon realised that they needed other categories. Sometimes a category is subdivided such as Hobbies into Embroidery and Carpentry. Similarly with languages. 04:52 Some people on the committee have made dividers for the table and table ends to keep the books tidy. If it is well organised people don’t feel so overwhelmed by the amount of books and leave. 06:19 The university has decreed that only a certain number of people can be in the Undercroft so there is a crowd control person and people have to queue too, only so many are allowed in at a time. Similarly only so many trestle tables are allowed inside the space so that there is enough room to move and browse either side of the aisle. 07:44 Managing the queues at the cash desks is also a fine art. Plastic fencing is used to keep the queue visible and tidy. There are a lot of people whose job is to add up the boxes and give people a docket to take to the cashier which is more efficient. People pay by cash or by EFTPOS. A power cut would be a disaster if the EFTPOS machines wouldn’t work as people expect to be able to pay this way. 09:47 Personal cheques are not encouraged as there have been cases where cheques have bounced. With EFTPOS people get a receipt. Some people also want to have a hand written receipt for tax purposes. 11:17 Track 4 00:00 The books are priced in pencil on the inside cover. Paperback fiction is priced at a third of the retail price, say approx. $6 if it looks new. It is harder to adhere to this rule with the downturn in the book shop market and the advent of pop-up bookshops. Another concern is the advent of Kindles and iPads which enable the use of e-books. 03:07 Paperback fiction is never priced too high. Reference books need more specialist knowledge as to whether they are set books or not. 03:58 There is a section of rare and valuable or old and valuable books which usually sell out first. It is important for people to have complete sets of books. Their knowledge is priceless for the running of the book sale. Surplus paperback fiction can be placed on this table as these books are normally sold out by Sunday lunchtime. 05:08 The sale is carefully monitored for people who might be trying to alter the price or do something dodgy. If a book is priced into double figures it is best to have that price written in words and numerals (i.e. $10 ten dollars). 06:07 There is no cross-referencing system of the pricing such as a typed catalogue of the books on sale. This might be done for some categories in the future. Rosalind does make a note in her notebook of unusual items that come in and what price they are sold for. 07:07 Some books come into the sale every year such as A Fortunate Life which is very popular. Unusual books or ground-breaking books retain their value. 08:13 To do a guide list or catalogue would be a huge job but this might happen if more books are sold online. Save the Children Australia would like to do this. This might widen the book sale audience to the whole of Western Australia. 10:53 People enjoy coming to the book sale as they enjoy visiting the UWA campus. It has become a tradition. Coffee is available during the week at the Hackett Hall Café. A recent innovation within the last 15 years has been the tent set up by a northern suburbs scout group who sell sausages and beverages at the weekend during the book sale. This has added to the atmosphere. The book sale volunteers also use this service. 14:12 When the book sale started it wasn’t over as many days. (In fact in 1970 it was over 2 days). Opening on a Friday night has been very popular. 15:00 There is a special category of children’s books which are very carefully sorted into age group. There are priced realistically. 15:55 Only magazines are priced at 50 cents each as it is too difficult to cope with the change so most of the books are priced in whole dollars. 17:10 Half price day is on Tuesday. On Wednesday (the final day) there is a special offer of so much for a box of books. It is preferable to clear the stock rather than have to take boxes of books back to the depot. 18:10 In the future they may be a special day or time set aside for a children’s book sale. The main problem is space. The consensus now is to make do and things that can’t be fitted into the space must be sold elsewhere. 19:07 They receive a lot of ephemera such as theatre programmes. These are difficult to price, display and sell so much of this is taken to specialist book fairs in the Perth metro. 20:36 One or two members sell books at a stall at the Hyde Park Festival. These are generally books that they have an oversupply of. 22:12 Track 5 00:00 Publicity is not an easy task. There is internal publicity within UWA. Posters are also sent to the local libraries and dropped off at the State Library. They are sent to the local papers. There are also paid advertisements sent to some publications to ensure that something is advertised with all the days and times. 03:30 Visiting celebrities such as Amanda Muggleton have been photographed to advertise the sale while promoting their own show. 04:03 For 5-6 years, the ABC has broadcast live from the book sale on Saturday morning. They talk about it in the week leading up to it. Even before this, Peter Holland would promote it on the afternoon session. 05:53 They try to have a Publicity Officer as this is such an important aspect to the success of the book sale. It is a skill. Using the internet has become an important aspect today. There have to be public interest stories to capture the imagination. 06:54 People who drop off books are given notices to take away to promote the sale. The artwork for the leaflets used to be done by Kyra Edmonds’ granddaughter. Cara’s daughter Margaret Setchell and her husband Paul have been supporters and or office bearers over the years. 08:23 There is a SCF Committee with a President, Vice President, Treasurer, Secretary and general committee members. Not everyone on the committee all the time would be totally hands-on with the sale. 10:37 Save the Children has a manual which the WA branch has adopted by degrees that covers advice on volunteers. Prior to that much of their business was based on the constitution for the Tuart Club which gave guidelines for the AGM, the auditing etc. 11:28 There was an exercise book where procedures and tips on running the book sale were written down. This has now been typed up. After the sale there is a debriefing session. At this time the Secretary will ask the University if the event can be run again next year and sends out thank you letters. 13:51 There are not formal elections but there is an election and people are asked if they are prepared to stand and new people are nominated to vacant positions. They don’t have a competition for committee places which would entail a ballot. 15:02 Forward planning is considered. Sometimes it is necessary for long-term people to step down from the committee in order to encourage new people to join. 16:00 Not everyone can sort books as the dust is troublesome to their health but there are many other roles. 16:44 Committee members are successfully encouraged to join through advertising in Uniview. They encourage people to come to a meeting to see what goes on and meet people. Sometimes people offer to help at the book sale. 4 or 5 meetings are held each year to plan the book sale on top of the AGM meeting. The meetings are usually held on Tuesday lunchtime at the book house. 19:54 Track 6 00:00 People who have been involved in the Save the Children Fund book sale over the years. 06:33 The booklet written by Sue Graham-Taylor needs updating now. The archives are in a cupboard at the book house. They have been sorted and listed by archivist Wendy Robertson. They probably need to be moved to the UWA campus. 07:59 The money raised by the book sale is given by cheque to head office. For many years they were allowed to nominate projects with which they would like to be associated. Between 1/4 and 1/3 of the money raised is spent in Australia. There are many projects happening in Western Australia. 09:54 Members are welcome to visit SCF projects. The Australian SCF groups now tend to support the Pacific Rim countries rather than Europe. One or two members have been to Lao PDR. 11:40 SCF ran Out of School Care at Lockridge 13:11 There is another project running at Armadale. There have been visits organised to see the work here where new arrivals are cared for while the mothers can learn English. A small group are taken shopping to help with living in a community. There are a lot of projects in the Kimberley or other remote places in WA. 15:02 Audio Files Links to audio files <a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/e4703d82733b6d19d0a25f689cedc4ee.mp3">Lindsay_Rosalind, Interview 1, Track 1</a> <br /><a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/646bb7fcb2dac46afca305f12e3d1f7b.mp3">Lindsay_Rosalind, Interview 1, Track 2</a> <br /><a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/08507299d589a645045177c933cc1d7e.mp3">Lindsay_Rosalind, Interview 1, Track 3</a> <br /><a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/59c750c57eb11e105fc94a5d600f7b31.mp3">Lindsay_Rosalind, Interview 1, Track 4</a> <br /><a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/f8040f0bf403529e7f3e5d7852eff864.mp3">Lindsay_Rosalind, Interview 1, Track 5</a> <br /><a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/60fc7d0a85a5e637bd17765e69354e32.mp3">Lindsay_Rosalind, Interview 2, Track 1</a> <br /><a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/56823c8973a9b83e4dddefacf5603e1e.mp3">Lindsay_Rosalind, Interview 2, Track 2</a> <br /><a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/09c6df0f1bc39749d5b03090dad39f14.mp3">Lindsay_Rosalind, Interview 2, Track 3</a> <br /><a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/00f9ea730af1ccffa71afc9b971359c2.mp3">Lindsay_Rosalind, Interview 2, Track 4</a> <br /><a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/d37c6e39a36e934f5c7b9aaa701bef29.mp3">Lindsay_Rosalind, Interview 2, Track 5</a> <br /><a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/98ee469d0d2389a66d409ee3f41f720a.mp3">Lindsay_Rosalind, Interview 2, Track 6</a> Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Rosalind Lindsay interview, 15 October 2013 and 25 October 2013 Subject The topic of the resource Save the Children Book Sale Description An account of the resource Rosalind Lindsay was born in England in 1935 and came out to Sydney, Australia in 1959. She met her future husband, David Lindsay in Camden, New South Wales. They married in 1961 and moved to Perth on 2 January 1967 when David got a job at the Department of Agriculture at UWA. The first interview discusses university housing at Arras Street, Hollywood, the Tuart Club, the Newcomers Committee, study leave and the beginnings of the University Branch of the Save the Children Book Sale. The second interview discusses the Book Sale in more depth. 2014 will mark the 50th anniversary of the Save the Children Book Sale. 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Title A name given to the resource UWA ORAL HISTORIES Description An account of the resource A collection of interviews with former UWA staff, recorded by the <a href="http://www.alumni.uwa.edu.au/community/historical-society" target="_blank">UWA Historical Society</a> to mark the Centenary of the University in 2013. <br />The UWA Historical Society’s <a href="http://www.alumni.uwa.edu.au/community/historical-society/oral-histories" target="_blank">Oral History Program</a> started as a project with four oral histories funded from Society resources. It was then expanded with support from every Faculty on campus, the Guild, Convocation and through private donations. Additional funding was received through a Heritage Grant. Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available University of Western Australia Historical Society Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource University of Western Australia Historical Society Oral History A resource containing historical information obtained in interviews with persons having firsthand knowledge. Interviewer The person(s) performing the interview Julia Wallis Interviewee The person(s) being interviewed Arnold Lee Location The location of the interview Mt Lawley, W.A. Duration Length of time involved (seconds, minutes, hours, days, class periods, etc.) Interview 1: 53 minutes, 29 seconds Interview 2: 1 hour, 5 seconds Total: 1 hour, 53 minutes, 34 seconds Bit Rate/Frequency Rate at which bits are transferred (i.e. 96 kbit/s would be FM quality audio) 128 kbs Time Summary A summary of an interview given for different time stamps throughout the interview Interview 1 Track 1 00:00 Introduction by Julia Wallis 00:47 Track 2 00:00 Arnold Lee was born in the UK in 1973. Family migrated from Liverpool to Forrestfield, WA in 1976. Government school education. Did TEE in 1991 and was accepted into UWA to study for a Bachelor of Science in 1991. The Bachelor of Science was split between human movement and psychology 01:22 Zoology was still near Kings Park. There were cows in the back paddock near human movement. The old pharmacology building was still in use as was chemistry. The Guild extension hadn’t been built so the amphitheatre was still there. The Riley Oval next to Arts was a full sized rugby oval. The newest buildings on campus would have been the Sanders Building, the GP3 (General Purpose Building 3). Architecture had just got its dedicated building on the south west corner having been in demountable buildings for many years. Halfway through Arnold’s first year architecture was moved to the Nedlands campus and Computer Sciences moved into that building. 02:49 Arnold moved all over the campus. First year lectures would be held in the Octagon Theatre or one of the Arts lecture theatres or the Physics Building. All the Human Movement labs were at the tail end of the campus near Pelican Point. 03:30 Arnold was catching the bus from Forrestfield. To make an 8am maths lecture he had to catch the bus at 6.30am. He also rode his bike 35kms there and back. 04:20 He spent many hours in the Reid coffee shop. People from all faculties gathered here. The clubs and societies and faculty societies were very active. He spent time in the Arts common room. He spent time on the Oak lawn or the Guild precinct. There were free Tuesday lunchtime movies. There were bands. Fridays were spent down at the tavern. 06:03 Three other people from his school made it into UWA. He only saw one of them from time to time and had to make new friends. It was very prestigious to have come from Forrestfield high school and go to UWA. First year Psychology had over 700 enrolment and human movement attracted sporty types, so he didn’t feel “out of it”. 08:15 Arnold did not need any help from the Guild. He just went there to the Refectory and to play pin ball. It was all pervasive but was very much in the background. The Manics was the largest club on campus. Camp Kids was still around. Clubs like Solid Gold and Leisure didn’t exist. 09:35 Student politics was very interesting. Bruce Baskerville (1991) was the first openly gay Guild President. Deirdre Willmont was President before him (1984). The Voluntary Students Union push was on. There were competing factions for the student hearts and minds. Different factions published their own newsletters independent of the Pelican. People were very vocal. 12:05 There were student protests. There was a march to Parliament House over the VSU when the Bill was passed. Arnold was also present at Parliament House when it was repealed. 13:00 The students were involved in the Third Wave protests over the change in industrial relations brought about by Richard Court and Graham Kierath. He recalled the Workers’ Embassy being put up at Parliament House by the CMFEU. 13:26 The Guild was located in the Guild Hall which was located opposite Matilda Bay. The new extensions were being built in 1993. They moved in during 1995 and out in 1997 when VSU caused them money issues and the university bought the building off them. 14:19 He took part in PROSH and directed it during the 1990s. The charities vary from year to year. They prefer to donate to smaller local charities. In the 1990s they raised $20-$30,000. Arnold recalled $15,000 was donated to Shenton Park Rehabilitation Hospital. Other donations went to Legacy and the Royal Flying Doctor Service. PROSH is now raising around $150,000 and giving grants of around $20,000 to a range of charities. It is bigger and better organised now. PROSH started in 1931. 16:52 When Arnold finished his degree he worked a variety of jobs. He did not want to become a psychologist. He worked as a roadie, a theatre technician, did sale and worked at a warehouse. He had worked for university theatres when he was a student. In those days the Festival and the Festival Club was on campus. 19:46 Track 3 00:00 Arnold left UWA in 1995 and came to work for the Guild in 1999 as a Projects Officer. He wanted some regular work. He was hired by the director of student services, Delphine McFarlane. The Guild President was Emmanuel Hondros. They wanted a researcher and report writer. It was an open ended job. He had to look at the impacts of VSU and work on its repeal. It grew as the Guild expanded. 02:00 The Guild was doing it tough financially and had to lift their profile and be relevant to the student body. Membership was now voluntary. It dropped to 23% at its lowest point. They had to become more professional. 03:50 The Guild in WA is different because the guilds are part of the University Act. In other states the student bodies are not. It has always been integrated into the life at the university – representation, activities, welfare and services. In the 1990s the welfare was at the forefront due to the economic downturn. In early 2000 the focus was more about activities on campus. 06:33 Sir Winthrop Hackett saw the University as having 3 pillars – the university (administration and academics); the student body and the alumni. All have a say and a stake in the direction of the university. The Guild and the university administration have a fairly positive relationship. 08:40 When VUS came in, the Guild was able to go to the university and ask for help and get it. The Guild had a big input into the new course structure. 09:48 Track 4 00:00 The Guild evolves to meet different needs. The Projects Officer worked closely with the Guild President. The president had to evolve and adapt as well. The Guild adopted the RAWS model (Representation; Activities; Welfare and Services). The Guild President sits on the Senate, he and some Guild Councillors sit on the Academic Board; different Council members sat on various university committees. 01:46 Professional Guild staff did advocacy work on behalf of the student body e.g. academic appeal, ensuring that activities met local council regulations and/or insurance regulations. The Guild staff became a very professional outfit. 02:43 The Project Officer role included a bit of everything. For example activities including helping to organise events such as O-Day but also to assist clubs and societies and to advise them and help with liquor licensing etc. 03:28 Guild finance also took on club banking. Marketing became both a source of income and a way to seek sponsorship and to promote the Guild and the university. It was the Guild who ran the marketing behind the recycling programme at UWA. The Guild is the conduit between other bodies and the student body. 04:52 People have always complained about Guild catering. Bob Hawke commented that it had also been the case when he was President in 1952. It’s never cheap enough or good enough. 05:56 Welfare includes emergency loans or advocacy or personal crisis counselling. The Guild shaped itself to include all these areas. There was some training but it was adapt or die. You never stopped. There were always projects. Often people were too busy for training. 07:42 It was meant to be a 9 to 5 job but sometimes it involved a 60 hour week. You had to love the job to do it. 08:30 The Guild was always full of students. In some universities they are not encourage to come in and talk to the Guild staff. They were not shut away behind partitions or locked doors. Staff constantly involved with the students. The students felt it was their organisation. Staff there to advise not to dictate. 10:39 The Guild had paid staff. The President received some payment but they had to sit on about 24 Committees as well as internal Guild committees. The President essentially was the CEO of a $40 million business with 200 staff (including catering). 12:12 The term for the Guild President was one year only. The whole Guild Council changed each year. The ideology of the Guild Council might therefore change from year to year. One year outside catering was brought in. Guild Council elected to get a new building contractor mid-way through the project which cost them money. 14:13 Track 5 00:00 Emmanuel Hondros was Guild President in 1999 when Arnold started working there. All the Guild Presidents are hard-working and got very run down. A new President is elected on 1 December. 01:30 Kristy Duckham (2001) was the first female president since Deirdre Willmont in 1984. (There was JA Quinlivan in 1987) but then a run of males until Sarah Haynes and Natalie Curling in 1994 and 1995. Then Rosie Dawkins in 1998. Then there was a run of female presidents - Myra Robinson in 2003 and Susie Byers in 2004 and Natalie Hepburn in 2005. 01:57 Ryan Batchelor (2002) came across from Victoria. He worked for Alan Carpenter and then Jenny Macklin. He helped Julia Gillard with the Disability Support Scheme. 03:11 Roland Nattrass was never President but did every other office bearing role in the Guild. 03:40 Tim Huggins (2000) now works for DFAT. He was from Geelong Grammar. 04:10 Emma Greeney (2010) was Arnold’s last president and was very hard working as was David de Hoog in 2007. He was from a different political alignment. Matthew Chuk (2006) had a distinctive monobrow. 05:11 There was education, societies, public affairs subsidiary councils which meant that a diverse range of people were involved with the Guild. Darryl S Tan was Guild Vice President and has a sundeck named after him (which is the back roof). 06:16 Liz Brogan, Giovanni Torre (now media advisor for Senator Scott Ludlum). Mick Palassis was Guild Treasurer. There are too many people to mention. They took on a great responsibility at a very young age. 07:16 No Council can make a decision that is binding on the one following it. At the moment there is the 100th Guild Council. Even if some people are re-elected, it is viewed as a different Council. The various Guild Presidents even refer to each other by their numbers! 08:46 Track 6 00:00 00:09 Conclusion Interview 2 Track 1 00:00 Introduction by Julia Wallis 00:31 Track 2 00:00 The role of the Projects Officer – starting up new projects or assisting with existing ones. Supported student projects with different visions from year to year. Different legislation and outside factors meant that events were different each year. 01:31 Professional staff had the corporate knowledge to ensure continuity. Turnover of Guild Council on an annual basis. Turnover of undergraduates every 3-5 years. 02:24 Regular events occurred throughout the academic year of 2 x 13 week semesters. Even during the summer break the Guild are gearing up for the following academic year. 03:35 Structured calendar. Enrolment takes place at the beginning of the year followed by orientation and then exams. 04:11 Every year there is a new intake of students. Arnold was part of the Orientation Working Group bringing together groups from all over the university to make sure that the new intake went off well. The Guild was enmeshed in this process which is unique. The aim of the Orientation Group was to settle in new students be they school leavers, international students, mature aged students or post graduate students. 06:04 It is that very collegial and community mind that makes UWA very different. 06:10 The Guild had the enrolment process down to 8 or 9 steps. The Guild had the responsibility of guiding students through these steps – letter of offer; student advice; unit selections through to student card, university systems, and tutorials. Guild membership was part of this process. This didn’t happen anywhere else. 07:34 UW and the Guild worked together irrespective of whether Guild membership was voluntary or not. Despite differences of philosophy from time to time, both the Guild and the university wanted to make the student experience a positive one. 08:20 Orientation followed enrolment. UWA orientation programme aimed to give students a good overview of the university. It was not a PR talk. It was recognised that people needed to feel at home and to feel ownership of the campus. This was worked out with UWA student services. Directors of Student Services included Jane den Hollander and Jon Stubbs who recognised the role of the Guild in student orientation. 09:54 Arnold developed Faculty specific talks. Students would get a mentor or student guide to walk them around campus and point know all the important landmarks. Even simple things like where the toilets are. This enabled first years to hit the ground running when they started their classes. 10:45 One international student only used one set of toilets as those were the only ones they knew and were too embarrassed to ask where others might be. 11:25 Orientation was followed by O-day which was an introduction to the university community and social life. O-day became bigger and bigger. This was due to the work that Guild staff did behind the scenes. They worked with the university to make it special. They integrated with the Commencement Ceremony where the Vice Chancellor and the Guild President would officially welcome people. 12:22 The O-Day field day was on James Oval. There was representation from social and student clubs, community groups and business who wanted to pitch to the student market. It grew from 90 stalls to about 186 stalls. 13:10 It was indicative of what life at UWA was like. There was a club for everyone. There were student clubs and Faculty Clubs. If there wasn’t a club, the Guild would help start it up. 14:14 O-day was in the planning for 3 months before the event. They had to get Council approvals, licensing issues, booking bands, plotting out where the stalls would go; organising the contractors; the power requirements. 15:06 O-day was on a Friday and there would be a cricket match on the Saturday so they had to ensure the ground was pristine. 15:36 Waste disposal was another aspect. 3-4 huge skip bins would be filled. Also hydration of the crowd and sun screen. 16:15 A lot of people were coming back to campus so the Guild student centre and membership was running flat out. The membership packs had to be pre-packed. It was there ready and waiting. 17:17 Catering took a bit hit from the amount of people involved – 10,000-15,000 in the same place for a 5-6 hour period. 17:52 Guild finance was in full swing to ensure all the clubs banking was ship shape and that there were floats and proper accounting procedures. 18:34 The professionalism of the Guild staff enabled the event to run well. Alex Marshall, Rohan Murray and now Jonathon Zahra were Activities Officers. The bigger it was, the bigger the expectation for next year. 19:30 The finance people, Henry Dudek and Darryl Sanders would come in at 5am just to make sure that everything was ready to go. 19:53 The membership department (Ben Hammond, Sarah Ghiradi, Adriana Begovich, Jake Spinner, Anna Murzyn, Alex Pond) ensured that the membership pack was ready and that the Guild message was being circulated through publications, the website, publicity etc. 20:40 The Student Centre Staff under Gina Barron were also flat out. 20:53 Arnold’s role was to liaise with all the different departments, keep them communicating and help out where possible. IT, stands, food, etc. etc. 22:24 James Oval was the only space big enough and it leaked out from here into the Guild courtyard and the Oak Lawn. 186 stalls was full capacity. There is no other large space to hold O-Day. Arnold’s O-Day in 1999 was held on the Oak Lawn. 23:24 The O-Day concert also is a big thing. Groove Terminator attracted 4,500 people. It was massive. 23:51 Heat is the biggest issue rather than rain. 24:17 Track 3 00:00 Then it was business as usual. The Guild staff used the RAWS model and Representation, Activities, Welfare and Services would all become part of their ongoing duties throughout the academic year. 01:01 Students had high level input into various university committees such as the Academic Council, the Academic Board, the Faculty Boards and the Senate. The student input is valued and indicative of the good working relationship between the university and the Guild. This is a huge responsibility for those students. 02:29 The Activities is the visual side of things such as theme weeks. Fringe Festival (Public Affairs Council). Enviro Week. Multicultural Week is huge and usually runs in 2nd Semester. It culminates in the Spring Feast. Post-grads would have their own week with seminars and things of interest to them. Public Affairs Council also put on Social Justice Week – refugee rights, indigenous rights etc. There would be a theme week every 2-3 weeks throughout the semester supported by the Guild. 06:46 The Clubs and Societies also ran social events during the academic year. The Manic Depressive Society was a huge club but petered out. One of the last Toga parties was held on campus during Arnold’s time. 08:06 PROSH was a large event and was one of Arnold’s babies. It changed massively and the organisation had to become more professional. In 2002, the City of Perth and the police wanted to stop the parade. It is the biggest single tin collecting day in WA. Things go wrong but the Guild is there to help PROSH and also to assist it to adapt and change. The parade is very heavily governed. At one time it was the graduation parade and wound through Kings Park. It is now quite tame in comparison. The route is negotiated from year to year. 11:17 PROSH has grown now raises upwards of $100,000 a year. The event has to be managed well but allow the students to express themselves. 12:23 A student left a squid in an aquarium that died and liquefied over a weekend. It was a very unpleasant job for Arnold to do. It was unreasonable in a professional capacity but part and parcel of the job for a Guild professional who has to work with students. 13:32 The Guild is not involved with student accommodation. Welfare was more about providing advice to students on benefits and to point them towards the university services. The Big Breakfast was a welfare event that was put on 4-8 times during the year. The Guild has to stay relevant and the welfare changes according to student needs. Most students now still live at home. 16:24 The Cruikshank-Routley Memorial Prize and the Guild Ball is a significant event. The prize is given to the student who has made the biggest contribution to student life and is not based solely on academic achievement. Students are nominated by their peers. The prize is presented at the Guild Ball. 18:57 There are also prizes for other clubs and Faculty societies. The Matildas are sometimes presented at the Guild Ball. This is a prize presented by Convocation to a student who had made a cultural contribution to campus. 20:35 The Guild Ball was at the end of the year. End of year celebrations were labelled Disorientation. 21:00 At examination times, Guild services included extensions and academic appeals, exam appeals. 21:19 Services also included the book stall ran by Betty Jansen; the Tavern, catering and other odds and sods. 21:51 For many years the Guild Ball was held in Winthrop Hall. In later years in moved to the Undercroft. Recently it has been held in the Guild Refectory. It is a special night. There would be a keynote speaker such as Janet Holmes à Court (who met her future husband, Robert, on Guild Council) or Harold Clough or Justice Nicholson. Bob Hawkes celebrated 50 years since he was Guild President in 2002. It is a recognition of the history of the Guild at the Guild Ball. 23:31 At one time, the Guild ran the Excellence in Teaching Awards where students nominated academic staff who excelled. These are now run by the university. When the Guild no longer had the resources to do it, the University picked it up. 24:28 Track 4 00:00 There were a lot of changes in the Guild during the years that Arnold worked there from 1999-2010. The Guild realised that they had to be responsive to student needs. During the VSU it was very challenging but it gave them a way of meeting challenging times. Change was often painful for the Guild and the students but it has made the Guild a very successful organisation and is recognised as such by the students, the academics and the university. 02:50 It has become better at selling its message. It recognises the importance of its brand and its presence. When Arnold was a student they were in the background and taken for granted. 03:28 It is also better at getting feedback on their services so that they can respond to student needs. 03:45 The future will be challenging. The change of Government recently on7 September may bring VSU back on the political agenda. 04:12 The Guild has the ability to survive if it makes the right decisions. 04:29 The Guild Council is the representative body and changes every year and can the change the course of the Guild. 05:12 UWA Student Guild, unlike other campuses, has always had fiercely contested elections. The elections are run properly by the WA Electoral Commission. Despite political ideology, the Guild will survive. 07:12 The student body campaign just like a State or Federal election. It is run to a very high standard. 07:42 Decisions of one Council are not binding on the one that succeeds it. 08:10 The terms are a year because it fits in with the academic year. Guild President is an enrolled unit that does not attract HECS field. The other positions are voluntary. Other Guilds pay people to take positions. 09:44 The future of the paid staff has always been tenuous. It depends on the decisions of the Guild Council. You don’t work for the Guild unless you love it. You don’t work there for the money! 10:27 Track 5 00:00 00:22 Conclusion Audio Files Links to audio files <a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/12de0201d50a3008be04c37e9971d897.mp3">Lee, Interview 1, Track 1</a> <br /><a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/19a74187e8baa82b65bceb548db94eef.mp3">Lee, Interview 1, Track 2</a> <br /><a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/6ee6de8868f2f7198b0be2c597b866fa.mp3">Lee, Interview 1, Track 3</a> <br /><a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/bfaf76ee7f9c91ee1d782ee58f9b70b7.mp3">Lee, Interview 1, Track 4</a> <br /><a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/49b730857ccca02024f344ad894c7e2b.mp3">Lee, Interview 1, Track 5</a> <br /><a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/c26ed3dfa528d979c6e1ec1d076d3ea5.mp3">Lee, Interview 1, Track 6</a> <br /><a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/86f7d55c4cb148bc5ab314fe2dc82327.mp3">Lee, Interview 2, Track 1</a> <br /><a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/7aa2d8774a45cb093af9f3627bee93ce.mp3">Lee, Interview 2, Track 2</a> <br /><a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/6e8f067f6a8f59d3640dfbd1508af9ab.mp3">Lee, Interview 2, Track 3</a> <br /><a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/7432dc3374cccc1b1cfa0c2069ba5957.mp3">Lee, Interview 2, Track 4</a> <br /><a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/3508306046d4b7416fe7b522765095a5.mp3">Lee, Interview 2, Track 5</a> Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Arnold Lee interview, 19 September 2013 and 26 September 2013 Subject The topic of the resource Guild of Undergraduates Description An account of the resource Arnold Lee moved to Forrestfield, WA from Liverpool in 1976 and following his TEE was accepted into the University of Western Australia to study for a Bachelor of Science in 1991. After Lee left the University as a student he began to work for the Student Guild as a Projects Officer, a position he would occupy for over 10 years. This position involved supporting and creating projects and he was particularly involved with student Orientation and PROSH, the charity newspaper create by University of Western Australia students. 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Title A name given to the resource UWA ORAL HISTORIES Description An account of the resource A collection of interviews with former UWA staff, recorded by the <a href="http://www.alumni.uwa.edu.au/community/historical-society" target="_blank">UWA Historical Society</a> to mark the Centenary of the University in 2013. <br />The UWA Historical Society’s <a href="http://www.alumni.uwa.edu.au/community/historical-society/oral-histories" target="_blank">Oral History Program</a> started as a project with four oral histories funded from Society resources. It was then expanded with support from every Faculty on campus, the Guild, Convocation and through private donations. Additional funding was received through a Heritage Grant. Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available University of Western Australia Historical Society Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource University of Western Australia Historical Society Oral History A resource containing historical information obtained in interviews with persons having firsthand knowledge. Interviewer The person(s) performing the interview John Bannister Interviewee The person(s) being interviewed Max Kamien Duration Length of time involved (seconds, minutes, hours, days, class periods, etc.) Interview 1: 52 minutes, 46 seconds Interview 2: 55 minutes, 26 seconds Interview 3: 59 minutes, 8 seconds Total: 2 hours, 47 minutes, 20 seconds Bit Rate/Frequency Rate at which bits are transferred (i.e. 96 kbit/s would be FM quality audio) 128 kbs Time Summary A summary of an interview given for different time stamps throughout the interview Interview 1 00:00:00 Charles St North Perth 1936. Family background. Warsaw and New York, Palestine, Russia, Melbourne. Encouraged to come to Perth, Western Australia. Mother’s jobs. Survivors of the Holocaust. 00:07:00 Memories of schooling and Ernie Smith. North Perth and Modern School. Playing tennis inspired by school. Memories of Perth Modern School. Anti-Semitic teachers. Jeremiah Haire* Morris Zines* inspired career direction. Saviour c’est pouvior. Seventy. 00:13:15 Medicine and first-year science. Camp for Kids Club – jewel in the crown of University of Western Australia. Tennis. Memories of UWA. Orientation, Brian Stokes. Memories of Adelaide and Adelaide University. Meeting Sir Cedric Stanton-Hicks*. Doctor Lippay*. Prof Peter Kampf*. Dr Lippay story. Leben Prize* and Nobel Prize. 00:20:25 Memories of Adelaide and the Colombo Plan. Medical School starts at University of Western Australia. The Medical School – long gestation and appeal. Public subscription. Wonderful age for the students and teachers. Eric Saint brings back ideas from Cleveland. Co-mingle day. 00:25:35 Co-mingle king and Walter Murdoch. Lions of the Worth’s Circus. Tania Verstak was Miss World. Devoting life to children of spasticity. Percy Cerruty comes to the University. 00:29:30 Keeping good relationships with teacher. Ken Pawsey and Dick Lefroy were role models. Whipple’s disease* and malabsorption. Invited to the inner sanctum. Not a very good student. 00:34:05 A place to inspire the individuals. Being editor of the Reflex magazine. Mengele was to get PhD and the NAZI doctors. The Speculum. Little Red Riding Hood. And rock around the cock. The Stone Age contraceptive. Burning of the reflex. Issue number 4 of the Pelican also burned. Geoffrey Bolton*. 00:39:18 Professor Ten Seldam is a nice bully. Eric Saint and Neville Stanley invite me for a beer. Memories of Saint and Stanley. Wittenoom mine. Dick Lefroy. Getting to know the surgeons. Mother gets cancer and medical etiquette. Not charging students. 00:44:19 Eric Saint and graduation ceremony. Paediatricians were excellent. McDonald* and Lewis. Neville Stanley was ebullient and enthusiastic. Staff student sporting things. Schistosomiasis in the Ord River. Way ahead of Salk* and Polio. Memories of Harry Rees*. Memories of Gordon King. Had hypothyroid condition. Never get a class with only 15 people in it again. Interview 2 00:00:00 Eric Saint and the colours of the gown for the university. Aboriginal health and the Medical School. General Practice and rural health and going to Collie in 1959. Eric Saint is the visionary person. Medical school appeal and rural medicine. Setting up a Country Medical Foundation. Country people hold Medical School in bad odour in the 1970s. 00:05:40 Translation of the vision of the School to professors. Aboriginal concerns of no concern. Working with refugees and being aware of minorities. Support of influential people in the UK. Psychologist for Bourke* in NSW. Seeing sick Indigenous children. Going into private practice. Being a doctor for Aborigines. Changing things. 00:11:00 Documenting illness. Importance of writing papers. Getting houses for people. ABSCHOL Aboriginal scholarships. Housing co-op through loss of money. Speaking to Mr Whitlam. Fred Hollows and trachoma. Dame Ida Mann, St John of Jerusalem Eye Hospital. John Cawte and Leslie Kiloh*. 00:16:00 Fred Hollows insults people. People warm to Hollows. Setting up the Aboriginal Medical Service in Perth. Admission of Aboriginal students to Medical School. Pathfinder. 00:19:00 Encouragement of Saint and rural service. Influence of Harry Rees. Working in fourth-world conditions in Australia. Australia is a very racist country. Money disappears. Kununurra an Apartheid town. Argyle mine and places in the town. 1996 opposition to core curriculum for Aboriginal study. 00:23:50 Coming back to the University - Foundation Professor Dick Joske*. Reasons for patient being in hospital. Easy to teach. Being bored with hospital medicine. 00:28:50 Karmel Enquiry 1973. Time is ripe to set up community practice. General practice and the Whitlam government. Health centre medicine. Nicola Roxon and centres. Committee of twelve and ideas for the health centres. Kevin Cullen and Busselton survey. College of GPs was a little club. 00:33:15 A compromise candidate was given the position. First guinea pig. Passing the exam. Offered the Chair. Kevin goes berserk and goes to the press. Changes to the school. Traditional English medical school. Easier to win a war than make change to the curriculum. Reasons for Saint leaving. 00:37:45 Promise to Western Australian population had been forgotten. Medical school and its purpose. People don’t have a big picture, major opponents now claim stewardship. A dissident and being valued for seeing things differently. 00:40:15 Aboriginal students and rural students would not get into Medicine at UWA. Figures disputed. Professor Sandra Eades* nurtured by Fiona Stanley. The connection between staff and student is still close. Bogged down in bureaucracy. 00:45:25 Vision of a career. Academic community and the 1970s. Controversy and closing of ranks. Whelan and Jackson and the Cullen family. Plot of the university to get their own man. Suing the Cullens and the College of GPs. Unit of the Department of Medicine. The last group of Community Practice to be formed in Western Australia. Money is redirected. 00:50:43 Boyle refuses to see Kamien. Embezzlers of $550,000 go to gaol. Getting some money and some employees. David Treloar*. Medicine takes all the money. Faculty opposes move to Claremont. Michael McCall* Associate Prof of Medicine changes his mind. Reduction of money. Tough go. Interview 3 00:00:00 Naive not getting a place in the system till 1985, in curriculum review committee. Stalling of process. Back to square one. Rural general practice rated highly. Financial difficulties in WA. Something wrong with an organisation that goes to all the effort to appoint somebody and then makes it so difficult for them... the gang of four. Dean, Deputy Dean, Michael McCall and Head of Department of Medicine. Finance for General Practice. Writing to Bob Street . Faculty cuts. Max Walters. No cuts. University fripperies of English, Anthropology, Archaeology, General Practice. 00:04:41Apology of Bob Street. Things are going to change. Conditions of the architect. Thanking Vice Chancellor. Universities can be very bloody places indeed. Robert Smith. Did not want Claremont for general practice. University dealings with Claremont. Deprived suburb of Lockridge. Setting up a practice without money from the University 00:09:45 Buying house and setting up a practice. Holman a person that makes dreams come true. Nugget Coombs. Dr. Underwood. Self-funding in two weeks. Going bankrupt. Losing department in Fremantle Hospital. Payroll tax. 00:12:22 Becoming bankrupt. $130,000 and fines of $6000 Steven Schwartz* and the faculty of medicine. Robert Smith impressed with Lockridge. Money and department allocation. 00:14:20 Memories of being a minority discipline in UWA. Kamien’s appointment was controversial. Suffering from the onslaught of Royal Australian College of General Practice. Curriculum review. No plan B. Trying to get a place in the medical curriculum. Getting into the curriculum by 1982. Catchpole had a three-week stint of emergency medicine. Used for rural attachments. Professor Catchpole gives up time for another discipline. 00:17:40 Trying desperately hard. The Deans were not interested. Lockridge’s situation. Setting up a demonstration practice. No support from the Faculty of Medicine. University forward-looking principle. Richard Angeloni*. Starting with interest free money. Lockridge practice brought prestige to the University. Max Walters completely antagonistic. 00:20:10 Bureaucracy tries to postpone things. Money worries for the Festival of Perth and Colleges. Ulterior worry. Time-wasting affair. Support of Norman Palmer and Dick Joske*. Joske became a rural convert. Memories of the games played by the Deans. People don’t know the University system. Ian Passmore made it easier. 00:24:15 40% of time spent fighting battles. Strengths of teaching affected. Professor Lourens* was a time-waster. University politics. Fighting for salaries. Not approved by Carmen Lawrence - working hospital. Pay the same as a junior senior lecturer. Professor getting higher pay than Head of School. 00:29:00 Senate and the blue rinse set. Selling of the Claremont practice. Loss of money of the University. General Practice and a Clinical Department. Describing Fred Hollows. University seeing benefit if it was seen to be earning money. 00:32:30 University would not change in any sense unless they were earning money. University never turns down money. Regrets about not making a life at University of Western Australia. Complaints about University system. 00:35:10 Position of Professor is devalued. Clinical medicine and the mates of the Dean. Not getting on the committee. Staying as an Adjunct Professor. Winthrop Professors and the American scheme. 00:38:40 Awarded for community work. Work in Kununurra*. Medical services for poor and others. Aboriginal health was seen to lower the tone. Huge numbers of students can’t be coped with. Notre Dame. Personal teaching in rural areas and teaching hospital. 00:42:40 Paying for conferences out of own pocket. Getting awards. Citizen of the Year. Order of Australia. The ‘in crowd’ of UWA and CURTIN. Getting reasonable recognition. Motivations. Revolving door of Aboriginal health. Treating overseas doctors. 00:47:30 International standing of the Department of Medicine. Medical graduates from OS. Getting money from OS students dilutes and quality. Money-making business. Lack of government support. Spin business and ratings. Personal position of professor. Benefits. 00:50:29 Memories of being ship’s doctor and Antarctic expeditions. Age is not a problem. An adventure and interest in scurvy in Kalgoorlie. The Barcoo Rot from the Barcoo River. Country and University judged by the way it treats its minorities. Summing up grateful to University of Western Australia. Audio Files Links to audio files <a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/b745bdddcdbc3da2c10d239cd327fc06.mp3">Kamien, Interview 1, Track 1</a> <br /><a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/0eef54897a59785c12ad01020ac7a2dd.mp3">Kamien, Interview 1, Track 2</a> <br /><a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/d3963d82f61e78d928742e46bffa3461.mp3">Kamien, Interview 1, Track 3</a> Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Max Kamien interview, 2 October 2012 Subject The topic of the resource Medicine Description An account of the resource A graduate of the University of Western Australia, Emeritus Professor Max Kamien would become Foundation Professor of General Practice at the University in 1976. Professor Kamien has a long history of working with those less-fortunate in Australia and overseas. He was instrumental in the establishment of the Western Australian Centre for Remote and Rural Medicine, an organisation which financially supports rural medical undergraduates to complete medical degrees and return to practice in rural WA. Professor Kamien continues to work at the Ord Valley Aboriginal Medical Service in Kununurra. He has been awarded for his commitment to education within rural communities and for his efforts to improve the health of Indigenous Australians. Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource Kamien, Max Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available University of Western Australia Historical Society Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource Copyright holder University of Western Australia Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource MP3 files Type The nature or genre of the resource Oral History Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource UWA ORAL HISTORIES Description An account of the resource A collection of interviews with former UWA staff, recorded by the <a href="http://www.alumni.uwa.edu.au/community/historical-society" target="_blank">UWA Historical Society</a> to mark the Centenary of the University in 2013. <br />The UWA Historical Society’s <a href="http://www.alumni.uwa.edu.au/community/historical-society/oral-histories" target="_blank">Oral History Program</a> started as a project with four oral histories funded from Society resources. It was then expanded with support from every Faculty on campus, the Guild, Convocation and through private donations. Additional funding was received through a Heritage Grant. Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available University of Western Australia Historical Society Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource University of Western Australia Historical Society Oral History A resource containing historical information obtained in interviews with persons having firsthand knowledge. Interviewer The person(s) performing the interview John Bannister Interviewee The person(s) being interviewed Michael Hobbs Duration Length of time involved (seconds, minutes, hours, days, class periods, etc.) Interview 1: 52 minutes, 10seconds Interview 2: 48 minutes, 42 seconds Interview 3: 27 minutes, 3 seconds Total: 2 hours, 7 minutes, 55 seconds Bit Rate/Frequency Rate at which bits are transferred (i.e. 96 kbit/s would be FM quality audio) 128 kbs Time Summary A summary of an interview given for different time stamps throughout the interview Interview 1 00:00:00 Introduction background information. Athel Hobbs. Architect and Soldier. Desires to do architecture. Abortive year at architecture and starting medicine at UWA. Initial impression of UWA as a student. Residential college in Adelaide. 00:06:10 Making the quota. Undue stress and the general first year since degree. Memories of the Vice Chancellor Currie. Being on campus and the educative view of the world. Rowing at the University Boat Club. Community. University Liberal club. Memories of the ULC float. Frightened to do engineering because of rough initiations. 00:11:50 Students stay all day at UWA. Second year experiences at Adelaide. Integrating and self-sufficiency. Field of medicine specialisation. Undistinguished academic experiences. professorial team at Royal Perth Hospital. Specialising in internal medicine. 00:15:39 Memories and knowledge of Eric Saint and Dick Lefroy. Establishment of medical school. Book – On good Doctoring Eric Saint. Mentor. The contrast between public health system. Professors control the system. Laurie Robson*. Restraints. Suspicions of Eric Saint. Bob Godfrey puts together a team at the Children’s hospital. Attempt to increase standards. 00:21:26 Saint and Lefroy adopt a good philosophy. Inspired to work with Saint and Lefroy. Artificial kidney introduced by Lefroy. Pass exams for College of Physicians. In charge of medical unit. Deputy medical superintendent. 00:22:50 University of Western Australia in the world. 1964 experiences of going to Oxford. Donald Aitchison*. Nuffield Department of Medicine. Mike McCall.* Survey of Multiple Sclerosis. Seeing the medical school and the working of medicine. Doing a DPHil. 00:27:00 Coming back to Perth in 1967. Sir Charles Gairdner Hospital chest hospital and general hospital. Bob Elphick medical team deputy. Epidemiology and social medicine. Nothing like this is Perth. Coming back to do epidemiology research interests. Reader at Monash. Staying in Perth. Vacancy at University of Western Australia Associate Professor. 1970. Fledgling movement for development of social medicine. 00:30:54 Memories of Aitchison.* creating a picture of UWA in the 1960s. Changes to the university seen and discussed. Preclinical sites. Sinclair and Simmons. The culture of Royal Perth Hospital. King Edward Memorial and Princess Margaret Hospital. 00:33:40 Deals done for University land and University-based medical centre. University and non-University people. Research orientation. Relying on permanent medical staff. Contentious issue of payment of surgeons. Associate Professor of Epidemiology. Approach in clinical teaching. Students and patients and the calibre of student. 00:37:30 Currie, Prescott and Whelan. support from the university administration. Allan Robson’s outstanding support. The importance of funding for the university and personal career. Triennial funding and grants. Whitlam collapse changes the situation. Canberra and primary care and general practice. Max Kamien. Staying on in the University Department of Medicine. Commonwealth state funding for the unit of clinical epidemiology in the 1970s. 00:40:20 Importance of funding for research in clinical epidemiology. Developing teaching programs at Royal Perth and Sir Charles Gairdner Hospital. Major problems in development in public health. NH and MRC research funding. Bruce Armstrong and Fiona Stanley. Laurie Beilin sympathetic to a separate school. In the late 1980s the Commonwealth give funding for development of epidemiology and research for Masters in Public Health degrees. 00:42:00 Setting up public health at University of Western Australia and separate department in public health. Memories of Laurie Beilin. Royal Perth Hospital funded posts. Most successful academic at University of Western Australia. NH & MRC projects set up. Social concerns of Laurie Beilin* and Max Kamien. Dick Lefroy founds geriatric services. 00:46:40 Memories of Fiona Stanley overseas training fellowship in NH & MRC. Comes back to work at Charles Gairdner. Takes on the peri natal study. Forms and institute instrumental in medical record linkage in Western Australia. The outcomes of the linkage. Longitudinal studies of health, state-wide hospital reporting system. Bill Davidson. Darcy Holman*. Support of Lotteries Commission. Cancer register – mental health services register - deaths and other linked study. Health services research. Infant mortality. Money becomes available at the right time. Interview 2 00:00:00 Eric Saint – central to the development of the medical school. Turned into the Sir Charles Gairdner site and the University hospital. Fremantle Hospital. Gordon Stevenson plan. Commissioner of public health and state functions of the university. Joint work with university people and state laboratory people. Problems ensue. Richard Court and Michael McCall*. Revitalisation of the service. 00:05:00 Charles Gairdner grows as a hospital and the main focus of the University dep. Rivalries with Royal Perth. Hospitals polarize splitting of the health department, hospitals have own appointments and chairs. Hospital politics. Experience of Wittenoom recalled. Eric Saint recognises industrial disaster in the 1950s. Jim McNalty* health minister. Long term follow up study. Brice Armstrong and Bill Musk. Eric’s deep social concern. 00:11:51 University of Western Australia and the Whitlam government, concern for social and community health. Director of Epidemiology. Health services epidemiology vs. clinical. Support for Dick Lefroy and Fiona Stanley. Seeing the community of University change. Chair in Neurology. 00:16:50 University and honorary academic titles. Research and the perinatal deaths and work done at Oxford elaborated on. University of Western Australia and international collaboration and World Health Organisation Project. MONICA Project. Registers of heart attack. Clear national differences and risk factors and randomised controls. MONIC steering committee. Wittenoom. 00:25:40 Seeing the growth of University of Western Australia and development of population health. Findings of health outcomes in prisoners. Aboriginal prisoners and health. Aboriginal/non-Aboriginal health comparison study. Professor Sandy Thomson* - interest in Indigenous health Judy Kastenberg*. Following people through their history of heart attack and associated illness. Social index. 00:32:44 Global analysis of technological change in health. Project out of Stanford. 00:36:29 Inaugural Head of Department of Public Health. Population issues and clinical medicine. Money and support. Commonwealth support. Laurie Beilin. Increase in brain mass and intellectual stimulation and postgraduate students. Chair in Public Health. University of Western Australia school in an up phase. Department and school in its own right. Amalgamation with social work. 00:42:30 Administration and leverage. David Fletcher* and Fremantle Hospital collaboration. Perinatal studies, geriatric services, gall bladder, heart disease and record linkage. 00:47:43 University of Western Australia global standing. Interview 3 00:00:00 Involvement with scientific and professional associations. Royal Australia College of Physicians, Faculty of Public Health Medicine, Public Health Association of Australia, Australasian Epidemiological Association. Australian Medical Association. Involvement with the Silver Chain Nursing Association. Work for the Department of Health. Home and community care program. The HAC program. 00:04:26 Implicit understanding to be involved in community organisations. Order of Australia Medal. Starting professional associations. The Australian Epidemiological Association. Population medicine. Growth of Medical School. Advocacy. Curriculum review. 00:07:50 Quoting Eric Saint on the more affluent years of the 1960s. The ‘halcyon period’. Sidney Sax brings a social perspective to organisation of the health services. NH&MRC grants RAD* grants. Support of students and placement of individuals abroad and at home. 00:11:00 Fiona Stanley and Bruce Armstrong go onto bigger things. Teaching and advice. Change of the sense of community. Changes in technology and affects at the university. Difficult to enthuse undergraduate medical students. The changing face of the university student. 00:17:05 Areas of success in student medical research. International students. Problems with the education of Malaysian students. UWA and the international arena. 00:22:45 Recognition of low numbers of medical students. Pressures of increased student numbers. Competition between universities and the academic standing of University of Western Australia. Proposed merger with Murdoch. Good times and bad times. Views of University of Western Australia today. 00:27:02 End of session Audio Files Links to audio files <a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/aea4bcf1dec42c277132a05ccb3e6c00.mp3">Hobbs, Interview 1, Track 1</a> <br /><a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/3526d9700360ce118149e427e97eb340.mp3">Hobbs, Interview 2, Track 1</a> <br /><a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/a11e569568d03fdacb3f21ed4e4e382c.mp3">Hobbs, Interview 3, Track 1</a> Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Michael Hobbs interview, 24 January 2013 Subject The topic of the resource Medicine Description An account of the resource This is an interview with Emeritus Professor Michael Hobbs. Professor Hobbs studied medicine at the University of Western Australia, University of Adelaide and Oxford University. He became Associate Professor of Epidemiology in 1970 and of Social Preventative Medicine in 1974. In 1991 he became the inaugural Head of the Department of Public Health. He has worked in association with people such as Fiona Stanley and Bruce Armstrong. Professor Hobbs has been involved with numerous studies into public health, including Perinatal studies, and was part of the steering committee for the World Health Organisation study into Cardiovascular disease. He was awarded an Order of Australia medal in 1994. Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource Hobbs, Michael Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available University of Western Australia Historical Society Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource Copyright holder University of Western Australia Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource MP3 files Type The nature or genre of the resource Oral History Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource UWA ORAL HISTORIES Description An account of the resource A collection of interviews with former UWA staff, recorded by the <a href="http://www.alumni.uwa.edu.au/community/historical-society" target="_blank">UWA Historical Society</a> to mark the Centenary of the University in 2013. <br />The UWA Historical Society’s <a href="http://www.alumni.uwa.edu.au/community/historical-society/oral-histories" target="_blank">Oral History Program</a> started as a project with four oral histories funded from Society resources. It was then expanded with support from every Faculty on campus, the Guild, Convocation and through private donations. Additional funding was received through a Heritage Grant. Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available University of Western Australia Historical Society Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource University of Western Australia Historical Society Oral History A resource containing historical information obtained in interviews with persons having firsthand knowledge. Interviewer The person(s) performing the interview Julia Wallis Interviewee The person(s) being interviewed Annette Goerke Location The location of the interview City Beach, W.A. Duration Length of time involved (seconds, minutes, hours, days, class periods, etc.) Interview 1: 37 minutes, 45 seconds Interview 2: 48 minutes, 22 seconds Total: 1 hour, 26 minutes, 7 seconds Bit Rate/Frequency Rate at which bits are transferred (i.e. 96 kbit/s would be FM quality audio) 128 kbs Time Summary A summary of an interview given for different time stamps throughout the interview Interview 1 Track 1 00:00 Introduction by Julia Wallis 00:43 Track 2 00:00 Born Maureen Annette Parkes in Perth in 1938, the youngest of six children. Spent her childhood in the country. Learnt to play the piano and went to about 8 different schools (4 of them boarding). 00:30 The last two years of secondary school was done at Santa Maria College in Attadale. By 1955, her leaving year, she was up to the AMEB Associate Diploma. 01:14 Track 3 00:00 Musical education at Santa Maria was very broad. Annette Goerke (AG) was also given the opportunity to accompany the school choir and to take part in musical productions. 00:58 Left school in 1955 but was invited to become the organist at St Mary’s Cathedral in her final year at school. Father Albert Lynch was her teacher. He founded the liturgical all male cathedral choir in 1938. At this time, he was the Parish priest at Applecross. He was a hard task master but very supportive until his death in 1976. 03:05 St Mary’s just had one appointment as cathedral organist. 03:41 AG spent the first year after leaving school learning the organ. She also had piano lessons with Alice Carrard. The previous cathedral organist came on occasionally to assist in her first few months. 04:30 The next year AG decided she had to earn some money to supplement the 2 guineas a month she earned as cathedral organist (plus weddings). She enrolled at Underwood Business College in Murray Street, close to Forrest Place (next to Bairds Department Store) in order to do part-time secretarial work. In the middle of the year when the course was completed the college asked her to teach typewriting by the principal, Miss Watson who was a lover of classical music. They also allowed her to fulfil her commitments at the cathedral. 06:01 Track 4 00:00 In her free time AG liked dancing. She met her husband at a church social group dance. They were married in 1960. They lived in a flat in Terrace Drive near the Christian Brothers College (now occupied by the Duxton Hotel). AG played for the morning cathedral choir practices and then walked on to work at Underwood Business College. She continued to do this until about 1963. In 1963 they decided to start building their present home in City Beach. 01:40 At that time married women often gave up work. The previous cathedral organist gave up playing when she got married. When AG expressed the wish to continue playing at the cathedral this was accepted and agreed. 02:48 In about 1963, some work was done on the cathedral organ. This was badly needed. It was renovated, enlarged and relocated from the west end gallery to the south transept. 04:09 This made the instrument more reliable and enabled AG to audition for the ABC and do broadcasts. 04:33 Before the renovation work, ciphers (notes) would stick and made playing it quite traumatic. The ABC came to hear AG playing the organ at the cathedral. 05:49 At this time church services were broadcast on ABC radio regularly. St Mary’s high mass at 11am was broadcast on the first Sunday of every month. 07:14 Track 5 00:00 1965 doing regular broadcasts at the ABC. Hoping for children but they didn’t arrive so in 1966 AG decided to enrol for a Bachelor of Music degree in composition at UWA. There was a quota system in place. 01:25 The degree could be done part-time. Professor Callaway interviewed AG and advised her to enrol in 3 of the 4 First Year units to have a better chance of selection. 02:20 AG was accepted and was only a couple of months into her study when she discovered that she was pregnant. In the six years she was studying, AG had 3 daughters. She was very busy as she was studying and playing at St Mary’s and doing recital broadcasts for the ABC and was orchestral organist and soloist with WASO . She also did lunchtime recitals at UWA. This was only made possible by the support of her husband and family. 03:41 The minimum time was spent at University – just lectures and tutorials. Many of the students were part-time and the lectures were often scheduled after 4pm. The listening and studying could be done at home. She was not a typical 1960s university student and didn’t take part in student activities such as PROSH. 05:27 Many of the Bachelor of Music degree students were mature age and part-time. 05:48 Track 6 00:00 The Music Department was located in Tuart House at the corner of Mounts Bay Road and Crawley Avenue. It used to be the Vice Chancellor’s residence. It was an idyllic location. Next door was the Zoology Department. 00:53 Many of the rooms were small and no doubt staff looked forward to moving to purpose-built premises (which they did in 1976). 01:28 A larger lecture theatre had been built onto the back of the building. The library was also located here. 02:27 Most of the students doing the Bachelor of Music composition degree at this time were mature-age, studying part-time and were professional performers. These included Graham Wood, Ashley Arbuckle (violin); John Dean (viola); Peter Finch (clarinet & saxophone); Wendy Nash; Frank Arndt; Wallace Tate. 03:17 Younger students who were doing the music core units as part of their degree would spend considerable time on the main campus. Those doing the Bachelor of Music would do one non-music unit out of 14. This meant that the music department in Tuart House was almost self-contained. 04:07 It was a very broad course covering history of music, interpretation of early music, ethnomusicology, orchestration and instrumentation, musicianship, keyboard work as well as composition and writing in various styles. These composition units were principally one-to-one lectures or tutorials. 04:48 Frank Callaway was head of department and there were about 6 full time staff including David Tunley, David Symons, John Hind (university organist), Laughton Harris and Sally Kester. 05:50 Track 7 00:00 Assessment took the form of weekly oral tests, assignments, major essays and end of year exams. 00:31 The oral testing gave the students an idea of how they were doing. The composition units were working one to one with the teacher so students were clear on how they were progressing. There were also listening tests. 01:41 AG cannot remember anybody failing the course. The students were scrutinised before they were allowed to undertake the degree. 02:19 Due to the close relationship with staff, students could always discuss any problems they might be having. If the students had problems it is more likely that they would be made aware of them rather than the other way around. 02:42 Track 8 00:00 Winston Churchill Memorial Trust established in Australia in 1965. The aim of the trust was to give opportunities for overseas study that is no available in Australia. There are no prescribed qualifications. Merit is the primary criteria plus the extent to which the applicant’s work will benefit the Australian community. It is expected that the fellow will return to Australia and apply the knowledge that is gained from their Fellowship. This is a condition of the award. 01:58 AG was in her last year at UWA in 1971 when she put in an application. At the time she had a four year old, a two year old and a baby who was only a few weeks old. Her husband had agreed to come with her and help with the children. She had to get a release from the cathedral and they agreed as long as she was present for the Easter ceremonies and back by Christmas. 02:49 Referees were the Catholic Archbishop of Perth, Father Albert Lynch and John Hind, the university organist. David Tunley and Professor Callaway also lent their support. A mutual friend, Molly McGurk, had been awarded a Churchill Fellowship and advised on the application. 03:46 You had to state in the application what you were going to do. In AG’s case, advanced organ studies with Marie-Claire Alain in Paris and to attend the international summer academy for organists in Harlem in the Netherlands. AG was interested in the interpretation of 17th, early 18th century music (covered so well in theory at UWA by David Tunley). This study in Paris gave that theory practical knowledge to play the instruments for which that music was written (the French Baroque). 04:38 It led to her buying a 22-stop organ for home based on the classical French design. It has been good for her students to hear those French sounds. 05:03 AG was away for nearly a year and benefited greatly from that concentrated study. She believes that she has passed this knowledge on. 05:32 Master classes in Harlem also invaluable. Studied the works of Bach with Anton Heiller and contemporary music with Werner Jacob. Had the opportunity to play on the modern and historical instruments during that summer academy during those three weeks. There was also a wide range of music available for purchase. 06:22 The non-teaching break following Harlem gave her the opportunity to visit places such as St Marks in Venice, Wagner’s Festspielhaus in Bayreuth, and St Bach’s Thomas Church in Leipzig etc. During the six months in Paris she had the opportunity to listen to Olivier Messiaen play at La Trinité each Sunday. 07:09 Track 9 00:00 Reflecting back on studying at UWA. It inspired AG to go overseas for further study. The units covering orchestration and instrumentation were extremely useful in later life. 01:04 Interview 2 Track 1 00:00 Introduction by Julia Wallis 00:29 Track 2 00:00 Return from Europe in 1973. University organist John Hind was to take sabbatical leave and Professor Callaway requested that AG act in his absence and teach his performance students and any new enrolments. This was her first experience of teaching but felt confident enough to do so after her Churchill Fellowship. Also did some part time harmony assignment marking and tutoring of another unit in the Music Department. 01:18 Gave a number of lunchtime recitals at UWA for the music society. Also started recording for the ABC with WASO’s principal trumpet, Kevin Johnson. Also did some ABC broadcasts. 01:41 Also involved in a project with the organist of St George’s Cathedral, Michael Wentzell to play the complete organ works of Bach. Michael was the President of the Organ Society at this time and AG was Vice President. Due to his sudden death in 1973 the work was not completed. 02:13 At the end of 1973 AG was appointed Director of Music at St Mary’s Cathedral assuming responsibility for the choir as well as being organist. The children were aged 6, 4 and 2 at the time. 02:36 The teaching at UWA was individual performance lessons and would be negotiated according to the student’s timetable and her availability. The Department was still located at Tuart House and things had not change much while AG was away in Europe. 03:12 Track 3 00:00 AG’s Graduation Ceremony took place when she was in Paris 1972. The first UWA organist was Michael Brimer who was a lecturer in music from 1962 to 1965. He gave the opening recital on the McGillvray Organ in January 1965. He gave other recitals which were very well attended. 00:59 John Hind followed from 1966 to 1981. Both Michael and John were full time members of staff in the Music Department. When AG was appointed in 1982 she had served as Acting Organist on two occasions. She continued in this position during the 1980s. She took a break in the 1990s. They didn’t appoint a University Organist in this time but used guest organists. AG started playing again in the late 1990s when she left St Mary’s Cathedral and was officially reappointed in 2002. 02:13 The conditions have changed over that time. The organist plays for all University graduations and official ceremonies and give advice on the use of the organ. The volume of work has risen considerably. There used to be 4 graduations a year and a University Sunday service. There is no longer a Sunday service but in 2013 there were 17 or 18 graduation ceremonies split over two seasons. 03:23 Previously the Music Department had to be advised about the use of the organ in Winthrop Hall by non-University hirers, today it is a commercial venue administered by University Theatres. [Pause to allow garbage truck to go past]. 04:05 Requirement for graduations was to play a short recital before the ceremony began. It was free choice and AG could play more secular music. Procession music would be similar to what was played at St Mary’s Cathedral. 04:47 Track 4 00:00 AG has played for graduations of ex-students she taught, ex choir boys from St Mary’s Cathedral and their parents who did further education as well as relatives. 00:51 UWA music Bachelor of Music degree was now available in performance and music education. 01:32 AG began teaching organ students in 1973. Her part time tutoring had to stop at the end of 1973 due to her appointment as Director of Music at St Mary’s Cathedral. She always continued to teach students in organ performance and still does. 02:12 There were a number of mature age students who she remained in contact with. Many have since moved overseas and they meet up quite regularly in Paris. 02:47 Australia has had some very good organists. It is easy to study the organ if there is something at the end of it. It is difficult to get work as an organist unless you are going into a church position. It is hard to make your career as a concert organist. 04:14 Track 5 00:00 ABC recital work continued on her return from Europe and continued for 25 years until the cathedral organ became unreliable for broadcast recording. 01:09 By this time the ABC was starting to cut back in that area. From mid-1960 to 1990 it had been a heyday for recording organ musical programmes. There were many musical programmes broadcast on the radio. 02:37 At the end of 1972 AG began working with Graham Johnson the principal trumpeter at WASO. They did many trumpet and organ broadcasts and concerts. Also with the Perth Chamber Brass. 03:09 Ray Irving from the ABC Music Department was a great support and a fantastic mentor. He liked the combination of brass and organ. Ray died in early 2013. A few later AG’s French organ teacher, Marie-Claire Alain also died. 04:34 Track 6 00:00 AG started doing lunchtime recitals at UWA in 1968 quite independently of her University studies. She played at Winthrop and did a number of concerts for the University Music Society often playing with visiting overseas trumpet players such as Gordon Reid (NZ), Edward Tarr (USA), and Graham Ashton (UK). 00:57 AG has kept up an association with concerts at UWA through the recent “Keyed Up” concert series and others. A CD of UWA musical treasures was produced for the UWA Centenary. 01:52 Through the lunchtime recital series she was able to introduce audiences to many large scale organ works such as Charles Camilleri's 'Missa Mundi', Petr Eben's 'Faust' and 'Job' and in particular the works of Olivier Messiaen. AG’s association with Olivier Messiaen goes back to her first recital at St Mary’s in 1963 and has since played most of his works. AG had never heard any recording of La Nativité but was assisted by Father Lynch. 03:17 While in Paris in 1972, AG was able to listen to Olivier Messiaen play every Sunday at Eglise de la Trinité. 03:27 AG gave the first WA performances of his later lengthy works in Winthrop Hall. She also recorded his works for the ABC. 03:56 Recent recitals of Messiaen’s music have been associated with anniversaries. He died in 1992. On the first anniversary of his death, AG was invited to give a memorial recital for the Melbourne International Festival of Organ and Harpsichord held in St Patrick’s Cathedral. In 1996, the Festival of Perth featured a lot of his music but not organ music. 05:03 AG decided to do a 3pm recital at St Mary’s and make the link between Messiaen’s music and religious inspiration playing under the stained glass windows. He is highly regarded as an original composer and teacher of composition and analysis. 07:16 The next anniversary in 2002 was the 10th anniversary of his death. AG gave a recital in Winthrop Hall and recorded a CD on the McGillvray organ entitled “Resurrection”. 07:43 The last anniversary was the 100th anniversary of his birth in 2008. 08:06 Track 7 00:00 The organ at Winthrop Hall was acoustically different to the one at St Mary’s. St Mary’s was more romantic and the McGillvray organ more classical. 00:46 It was easy to get an audience at Winthrop for recitals of Messiaen’s music. However 800 people came to the recital in 1996 at St Mary’s (probably due to the publicity by the Perth Festival of his works). 02:00 Organ students at UWA had to practice where they could find an organ. It was not easy. A tracker action mechanical instrument is the ideal. Both Winthrop and St Mary’s had electrical action. Trinity College in East Perth has been very generous in allowing students to practice on their organ and for examinations. This was built by the same person who built AG’s organ at home. 03:24 Many of the matured aged students were already playing at a church so they could practice and use that organ for examinations. 03:40 It was always difficult to book practice time in Winthrop Hall even for students’ final recitals as there was always something happening there. During exams the hall of the Undercroft was virtually out of bounds. This made things very challenging. 04:29 Track 8 00:00 AG’s work with WASO – orchestral organist and soloist. The venue for WASO concerts from about 1967 was Winthrop Hall. Prior to this they used the Capitol Theatre in William Street, Perth. The Perth Concert Hall was opened in 1973. In 1969 WASO did the first performance of the Poulenc organ concerto at Winthrop. AG was soloist for the Poulenc concerto and a Handel organ concerto. AG gave the first WA performance of the Poulenc concerto in 1967 with an amateur orchestra in the Trinity Congregational Church. 02:06 Over the years AG had many opportunities as a soloist, two in the Concert Hall were televised in 1984 and 1985. Doing solo work with WASO was readily available at that time. Then things dried up. 03:19 When AG was a student a lot of her fellow students were from WASO. They were matured aged students and weren’t studying performance at UWA. Standards are very high but it is possible for UWA performance students to join WASO if they have enough talent. Many of them go to ANAM and work in a training orchestra first. 04:32 AG has played with WASO when the score requires the use of an organ. In 1997 went on an Eastern States tour. Concerts were given in the Sydney Opera House and the Melbourne Concert Hall. AG was given practice time to familiarise herself with those organs which were vastly different to the ones she had been used to. The organ at the Sydney Opera House was a Ron Sharp organ (the same as in the Perth Concert Hall). The organ in Melbourne was very different and was of French design. 06:50 AG is not sure if the tour was initiated by WASO or whether they were invited. 07:25 Track 9 00:00 The Festival of Perth started when AG was about 15 years old. In the 1960s there were programmes as part of the Festival called “Music in the Churches”. In 1965 for the first time there was an organ in a public venue – Winthrop Hall. Michael Brimer gave an all Bach recital for the Festival. 02:03 From then on the Festival regularly brought international organists to Perth to give recitals on that instrument. Gillian Weir was just beginning her career, whereas E Power Biggs was coming to the end of his. Others included Marilyn Mason, Nicholas Danby, Susi Jeans, and Jennifer Bate. Some returned 2 or 3 times. Organ recitals were in their heyday and well patronised. 02:54 Winthrop Hall was not air conditioned which made things challenging for the artist, the audience and the instrument itself! 03:22 The recitals at UWA continued until 1977 when the new Sharp instrument in the Perth Concert Hall was used (4 years after the Concert Hall opened. 03:56 Organists featured less frequently in Festival of Perth programmes from 1977 until it became quite rare to have an organ recital in the Festival. 04:52 In 1968, Gillian Weir was just starting her career. In 1977 when the Perth Concert Hall was inaugurated she was engaged to play at that opening ceremony and subsequently to give one of the two Perth Festival solo recitals on the newly installed Ronald Sharp instrument. They also gave AG an opportunity to do the second. 05:44 Gillian Weir also visited the UWA Music Department as musician in residence. She performed the complete organ works of J S Bach in 14 recitals on the McGillvray organ. She also conducted Master Classes. 06:05 The artist in residence scheme had been inaugurated at UWA just a few years earlier in about 1973. Distinguished international musicians joined the teaching staff of the Music Department as visitors. In addition to their teaching programmes they performed public recitals. 06:35 Gilliam Weir returned the next year as well (1978) and did 7 recitals. In 1979 Gillian Weir returned again and was Chief Adjudicator in the organ division of the National Eisteddfod that was held in Perth. It was a major project for the State’s 150th anniversary celebrations. She played harpsichord and organ as well as lecturing. 07:30 UWA has been very fortunate to have Gillian return so frequently. She came back for another Festival of Perth in 1987 where she gave recitals in the Perth Concert Hall and St George’s Cathedral. Gillian has been Patron of the local Organ Society for many years. She has only recently retired from her career as a concert organist. 08:55 Track 10 00:00 1996 Awarded Papal award ‘Crucem Pro Ecclesia et Pontifice’ in recognition for her 40 years’ service to St Mary’s Cathedral. AG took Long Service Leave from the cathedral after 43 years’ service and this prompted her to retire. It was quite daunting as she had been there since she was 16 years old and had a strong personal family connection to the Cathedral. However retiring from St Mary’s had given her opportunities to pursue other interests. 02:32 At this time AG started playing for a number of ceremonies at UWA encouraged by Peter Leunig who was working at the Office of Development at that time. She did all the graduations in 2001 and accepted the role of University organist again officially in 2002. 03:06 She was very honoured to receive a Chancellor’s Medal in 2004 in recognition of service to the community and UWA. 03:27 There is a family tradition of studying music at UWA. AG’s daughter Trish did a Bachelor of Music at UWA and now her grandson Jonty (Trish’s son) is about to enter the Music Department of UWA as a student in 2014. He has been awarded a Tunley Scholarship. Trish and Jonty both play the flute. Trish was taught by David Tunley’s wife Paula. AG feels very much part of the UWA family. 06:11 Audio Files Links to audio files <a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/71aff29d77427615d0bfce767ce7253d.mp3">Goerke, Interview 1, Track 1</a> <br /><a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/840194cb39841c30a7342be9375eca77.mp3">Goerke, Interview 1, Track 2</a> <br /><a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/b4bdd26b9e90e4aa88de5dd43945ad5a.mp3">Goerke, Interview 1, Track 3</a> <br /><a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/c4caf25c8f95fe1db0f286fa61a11a3f.mp3">Goerke, Interview 1, Track 4</a> <br /><a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/316eda38156068e56b819e2a620d7681.mp3">Goerke, Interview 1, Track 5</a> <br /><a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/17f077e3da47316fc3abdb2b7deec29c.mp3">Goerke, Interview 1, Track 6</a> <br /><a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/0c2783b5eb8f39f248ad2ae01f72d8ef.mp3">Goerke, Interview 1, Track 7</a> <br /><a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/b8d2a639ffc92508aca003424a1689b8.mp3">Goerke, Interview 1, Track 8</a> <br /><a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/5d6fec2052c9dc49c949a27c624eccb2.mp3">Goerke, Interview 1, Track 9</a> <br /><a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/81c069d9eafceff07349b65240353cc6.mp3">Goerke, Interview 2, Track 1</a> <br /><a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/977ff448630e047ccf86096008864410.mp3">Goerke, Interview 2, Track 2</a> <br /><a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/4cfeb7dceed92e5e985d818a92a7d4c3.mp3">Goerke, Interview 2, Track 3</a> <br /><a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/1d9305a3316b314580b3476ea15075cf.mp3">Goerke, Interview 2, Track 4</a> <br /><a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/f2f4d4a4957be1bdcabcbdf2509dfc1b.mp3">Goerke, Interview 2, Track 5</a> <br /><a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/0fec06192492248b1b2272474bb605aa.mp3">Goerke, Interview 2, Track 6</a> <br /><a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/f0a601ba27b63ce4449e552441368782.mp3">Goerke, Interview 2, Track 7</a> <br /><a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/82a10cf39e78917f9411abd5bd9bb36c.mp3">Goerke, Interview 2, Track 8</a> <br /><a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/7184179cfe4f53ad2712628631555905.mp3">Goerke, Interview 2, Track 9</a> <br /><a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/b596c428ae709c9c09d37bf18df20094.mp3">Goerke, Interview 2, Track 10</a> Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Annette Goerke interview, 13 January 2014 and 20 January 2014 Subject The topic of the resource Music Description An account of the resource Annette Goerke was appointed organist at St Mary's Roman Catholic Cathedral in Perth, Western Australia at the age of 17. After 18 years as Cathedral organist, she was appointed Director of Music assuming responsibility for the choir in addition to playing duties and continued with this dual role for a further 25 years. A graduate of the University of Western Australia, she has maintained her association with the University through teaching for the School of Music, as University organist and as a regular recitalist. Annette’s awards include the Papal award 'Crucem Pro Ecclesia et Pontifice' for her services to St Mary’s Cathedral and a Churchill Fellowship for advanced organ studies. She regularly performed in recital broadcasts for a number of Australian Broadcasting Corporation programmes and has also appeared with the West Australia Symphony Orchestra. Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource Goerke, Annette Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available University of Western Australia Historical Society Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource Copyright holder University of Western Australia Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource MP3 files Type The nature or genre of the resource Oral History