7 10 85 Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource UWA ORAL HISTORIES Description An account of the resource A collection of interviews with former UWA staff, recorded by the <a href="http://www.alumni.uwa.edu.au/community/historical-society" target="_blank">UWA Historical Society</a> to mark the Centenary of the University in 2013. <br />The UWA Historical Society’s <a href="http://www.alumni.uwa.edu.au/community/historical-society/oral-histories" target="_blank">Oral History Program</a> started as a project with four oral histories funded from Society resources. It was then expanded with support from every Faculty on campus, the Guild, Convocation and through private donations. Additional funding was received through a Heritage Grant. Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available University of Western Australia Historical Society Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource University of Western Australia Historical Society Oral History A resource containing historical information obtained in interviews with persons having firsthand knowledge. Interviewer The person(s) performing the interview John Bannister Interviewee The person(s) being interviewed John Papadimitriou Location The location of the interview Perth, W.A. Duration Length of time involved (seconds, minutes, hours, days, class periods, etc.) Interview 1: 53 minutes, 53 seconds Interview 2: 51 minutes, 31 seconds Interview 3: 30 minutes, 50 seconds Total: 2 hours, 16 minutes, 14 seconds Bit Rate/Frequency Rate at which bits are transferred (i.e. 96 kbit/s would be FM quality audio) 128 kbs Time Summary A summary of an interview given for different time stamps throughout the interview Track 1 00:00:00 Introduction and background information. Coming to Australia the best place to go. Kalgoorlie and the finding of gold. Schooling and secondary school education. Intrigued how living things must obey the laws of chemistry and physics. Medicine. Scholarship. Stimulated by Bayliss and Waring. Neville Oscar Professor of Classics. University and the beautiful surroundings. 00:05:42 Couldn’t afford St George’s College or Thomas More. Staying at the men’s hostel. Glen Store, Hugh Tyndale Biscoe, Bill Barker, Nell Mare. The sense of community. Ron Hutchins on ethics and morals. Ted O’Keefe. People from different disciples interacted. Sitting on the lawns and discussing issues at meals in the refectory. Michael Small ancient Greek scholar lives next door. 00:10:40 At the University 9-5 absorbing what the other disciplines have to offer. Easy to mix with other faculties. Great learning atmosphere. People stimulate young eager minds. Privileged to be at university. 1956 could not stay in WA. Collection of money from the local area for the building of the medical school. Fred Maslen. Eager support from the community. People want for a medical school. Great reputation of the university in the community. Mature age students. 00:16:19 Experience of going to Adelaide: a formal place, run on Germanic lines. Discipline at the University of Adelaide. Professor Abbey. Sir Stanton Hicks. Mark Mitchell. Peter Nostell was the trigger to go into research. 00:20:50 Welcomed back from Adelaide as prodigal sons and daughters. People wanted to teach students in the teaching wards. Pathology starts to impress. The clinicians and the wards at the Royal Perth Hospital. Memories of the Royal Perth Hospital experience. Clinical expositor to the students. Students assist with surgical procedures. Memories of the Thoractomy. Numbers affect the teaching of students. Ian Thorburn who worked unpaid. 00:27:50 Memories of Eric Saint, Dick Lefroy and Hurst. Cecil Lewis bends six inch nails and tears telephone books. Gwyn Brockis. Theories of playing music in the surgery. The patients of the professor. Memories of Rolf Ten Seldam. John Little and Max Walters. Max was a bridge between staff and students. 00:33:40 Connection between staff and students. The culture that existed at UWA. Microbiology and Neville Stanley. Rolf ten Seldam and introduction to electron microscopy. Playing around with viruses. Research studies crystallize. 00:37:30 Reovirus 3 and Neville Stanley. Playing cricket with Neville Stanley. Community and camaraderie. Graduating in 1962 with distinction prize in pathology. Surgical skills. Alec Dawkins and orthopaedics. Thesis 1969 Neuro infection with Reovirus 3. Explanation of the action of the Reovirus. Insights into the way virus infect tissues. Published in the American Journal of Pathology. 00:43:41 Children and the Reovirus infection and insight into the human condition. Electron microscopy, histochemistry , enzymology developing in the 1960s. 00:44:55 Research fellow in 1964. Research assistance. Securing national health grants. CJ Martin Fellowship overseas. Experiences of travel and the Fellowship experience. Knowledge gleaned from travel and conferences. Numbers were small. Reputation of UWA nationally. Medical school developing reputation in Medicine, Surgery and Pathology and microbiology. Biochemistry and Ivan Oliver. Liver development. George Yeoh and the damaged liver. Established research programs. Allan Morgan achieves a CJ Martin Scholarship. Stanley and others were supported by NHMRC grants being awarded to people only ten years after the school opened. Competing favourably with the rest of Australia. 00:50:35 Personal career development. Keen interest in research. Overseas experience at the Rijk University in Leiden. Chemist Van Duyne. Chemistry at a cellular level was very reliable. Freiberg and Professor San Ritter. Studying the rejuvenation of body tissue to injury. Liking the approach in England and Holland. Track 2 00:00:00 Return home in 1971, teaching facilities compared to overseas. Research facilities not up to scratch at UWA. Pathology department in Perth. Support from UWA and NH&MRC. Electron microscopes installed – research facilities pick up. Getting trained international quality people. Instilling German principles. Increase in facilities. Good time for resources. Research programmes. How the body heals self. 00:06:00 Looking at diseased tissues. Building up research facilities and techniques in the diagnostic area in WA. Concerns. Applying international principles. Histochemical and ultra-structural techniques. Dawkins brings expertise to WA. Kakulas brings international attention. Growth of Neurological depts. Royal Perth QE2. Parochial view and the growth of international focus – international conferences. Academic community in WA in 1971. Hong Kong and national attention. 00:12:30 Senior lecturer in 1971. Changes. Instilling information and the question mind. Small classes and personal connection. The human element. Connection between staff and student. Technology and the numbers of students. Sustainable learning. Being inspired by a human or a Mac computer or online site. Virtual online course. Blend of technology and human interaction. 00:16:25 Community and geography and interaction with the medical school. Drawbacks and the campus versus medical school relationship. Development of the training hospitals. Max Walters fuses resources into one huge department. Envy of other departments on campus and nationally. Pathology a much more productive department. Loss of resource and people weakens effort achieved. 00:20:36 Support from national and medical research council, UWA and health grants resource and encouragement in the 1970s. Positions scientific and academic for research and teaching. Support diminishes during the 1980s and 1990s. John Dawkins’ policy. Memories of the John Dawkins era. Becoming a business and getting funds. Inheriting problematic situations. Bureaucratic demands of business models. Strengthening and weakening the departments. Department at the coal face of teaching drawing students to the department. Failing to hook talented graduates. 00:25:25 Aims of personal teaching. Concepts of disease – fine details. A paradigm of what disease is all about. Molecular biology. Evolution of disease. Formulating hypotheses. Past students experiment as practitioners. Advice. The social aspect of UWA academics. Cohesion disappears. Emails and achievements. Body language and communication. 00:31:15 Associate Professor. The devaluation of position today. Firing enthusiasm of medicine and science and research. Students seduced by money. Enthusiastic students. Research funding tougher to find. The Telethon Foundation, National Heart Foundation, Cancer Council that support. Committee and research funding. 00:36:40 Strategic partnership with industry and research training schemes. National resources and collaboration with other departments. Engineering. Anakusal. International people are attracted. Moshe Wolmen. Professor Spector, Willerby, Kakulas. Lazarides, Skellor. Impressed by the potential. Improving as a result of visits by the leading lights. Imaging unit fluorescent cell sorter. 00:42:42 Money and personnel is a constant problem. Development of technology. Physical sciences and biological sciences. Outbreak of SARS and discovery of other virus. Technical expertise lost. Costs of equipment. 00:45:11 Medical illustrations unit. Gem of the medical school. Harry Ubencis. Images produced for study and informative. Development of personal career. Chair in pathology. Resources and theoretical approaches to research. Eyes of Australia and molecular biology. John Mattick contributes to study. Molecular analysis of disease. Need physicists to be involved more. Track 3 00:00:00 Internationalisation of UWA. Exchange students in Sun Yet Sen University in China. Chinese and Australia connections. Reputation of Australia and UWA. Reputation and the international standing. International standing international students. Alan Robson and Paul Johnson. Collaboration. 00:06:00 Imitate and emulate the better universities. The universe and Particle physics and modern biology. Biology at the forefront at University. Developments. Major discoveries and the last frontier. Understand the hard nuts of research. Marshall and Warren and the problems associated with contracts. The flexibility of failure. Examples of Nobel prize war and emigration. 00:10:14 Development of career – becoming head of department. Work and scientific aspects. Opportunity to experiment. Deputy Chairman of the Australian research centre of medical engineering. Detecting and killing brain tumours experimentation. Money and funding and support. Involved on committees. Experiences of the Lotteries Commission. 00:15:00 Academic committees and the current scholastic situation. Insight from the PhD committee. UWA PhD students compare favourably with world standards. Positive signs for the university. Improvements and catching up. W.A. will gain as will UWA. Maintaining a strong academic research focus. Bureaucratisation and positive directions. Administration and leading. 00:20:22 Personal involvements in community organisations. The St John Ambulance Brigade. Member of the ethics committee of the Coroner’s Court of WA. Teaching the community and learning from St John Ambulance Brigade. Tony Kierath. Hypocrates plane tree. Community’s response to UWA. People come to UWA festival. Culture and the arts. 00:23:12 Boorhave Research professor. The Perth group and the HIV sceptic group in Perth WA. Asking questions about HIV. Rethinking theories and strengthening approach. Going back to study Ancient History in UWA. Brian Bosworth, John Jory, Mervyn Austin. Insight into historians minds. John Melville Jones. Looking back and looking forward. Talent and resource and the Singapore University example. Excitement of University study and career. The history of Pathology in 50 units. 00:30:50 Audio Files Links to audio files <a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/df9eeea1b796816f16e5d619dd199faf.mp3">Papadimitriou, Interview 1, Track 1</a> <br /><a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/eee2b2bb017f9a67bbfacc10e2f75a6c.mp3">Papadimitriou, Interview 1, Track 2</a> <br /><a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/4206584a6f4c8b643c3b3a8ab402607d.mp3">Papadimitriou, Interview 1, Track 3</a> Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource John Papadimitriou interview, 8 February 2013 Subject The topic of the resource Pathology Description An account of the resource Emeritus Professor John Papadimitriou speaks of his extensive career at UWA and his interest in scientific research in the field of pathology. John was Head of the Department of Pathology for two terms in 1978 and 1982. He was a student at the university, graduating with a distinction in medicine and surgery in 1962. He completed an MD in 1969 and PhD in 1976 and received a prestigious CJ Martin travelling fellowship. During the interview John talks of his varied connections at UWA firstly as a student in the 1960s, as a member of staff and as a student again in the 1980s. He completed a BA in ancient Greek and Roman history in 1982. By discussing the changes that he has seen at the university Papadimitriou gives a clear understanding of the University’s change in focus and direction and its reputation on a world scale. With a career that has seen him work in England, Europe and China, he is able to compare the university’s growth and facilities with other academic institutions around the world. He speaks of the QEII Hospital and the research programmes that have developed at the training facility. He discusses the past support for research that he has experienced and seen change over the years and talks of his hopes for ongoing support for research in WA. John Papadimitriou outlines some of his work in pathology research including his work with Reovirus 3 and work with the Research Centre for Medical Engineering. He also talks of some of the many prominent people he has worked with over the course of his career. John has been involved with many community boards and academic and research committees. He was awarded an Order of Australia Medal for his services to medical research and the community. Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource Papadimitriou, John Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available University of Western Australia Historical Society Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource Copyright holder University of Western Australia Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource MP3 files Type The nature or genre of the resource Oral History Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource UWA ORAL HISTORIES Description An account of the resource A collection of interviews with former UWA staff, recorded by the <a href="http://www.alumni.uwa.edu.au/community/historical-society" target="_blank">UWA Historical Society</a> to mark the Centenary of the University in 2013. <br />The UWA Historical Society’s <a href="http://www.alumni.uwa.edu.au/community/historical-society/oral-histories" target="_blank">Oral History Program</a> started as a project with four oral histories funded from Society resources. It was then expanded with support from every Faculty on campus, the Guild, Convocation and through private donations. Additional funding was received through a Heritage Grant. Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available University of Western Australia Historical Society Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource University of Western Australia Historical Society Oral History A resource containing historical information obtained in interviews with persons having firsthand knowledge. Interviewer The person(s) performing the interview John Bannister Interviewee The person(s) being interviewed David Plowman Location The location of the interview Perth, W.A. Duration Length of time involved (seconds, minutes, hours, days, class periods, etc.) Interview 1: 46 minutes, 53 seconds Interview 2: 47 minutes, 4 seconds Interview 3: 46 minutes, 53 seconds Total: 2 hours, 20 minutes, 50 seconds Bit Rate/Frequency Rate at which bits are transferred (i.e. 96 kbit/s would be FM quality audio) 128 kbs Time Summary A summary of an interview given for different time stamps throughout the interview Track 1 00:00:00 David Henry John Plowman, born Malta 1942. Background history. Father a teacher. Institutionalised as a child. Coming to Australia. Child migrants. Memories of Tardun and becoming a teacher. 00:03:45 Coming to work and study at University. Arts and Economics degree. Honours and scholar at MA. Memories of the university. Student dynamic. Science of opportunity. Business degree. Significant changes. Industrial relations. 00:07:50 Memories of the mature age student experience. Love for industrial relations. Des Oxnam. Worst lecturer ever experienced. Master’s in Industrial Relations. 00:10:00 Facilities available and disciplined experience. Life in the broad for average student. Lectured by people who are not able to teach. Interesting brilliant blind lecturer Arnold Cook. Reg Appleyard leading professor. Young economists. Indian lecturers. 00:14:00 Atmosphere. Murdoch University. Isolation and the department of economics. Enrolling in honours. Getting first class honours. Eclectic range of things you could do. Micro and macro economics. Course structure. Bachelor of economics. Significant developments. Commerce and economics. Commerce more fragmented. 00:20:50 Physical changes and different buildings. Economics was in the Winthrop tower. Cinderella unit. Comparisons with UWA and Melbourne. Isolation is a benefit to education. University of South Australia. University of New South Wales. Call to come back home. 00:25:00 Comments on University of WA. Isolation. Reputation. Relationships kept up. The small university. Development of personal career. Industrial relations a growing area of study in the 1970s. 00:30:20 Prolific publication. John Nolan Foundation Chair and Dean. Successor. Setting out to make changes. Employment relations. Human Resource Management. Strikes and human industrial relations. Human resources could be whatever you wanted it to be. Growth of the course. Exciting institution. Achievements. 00:34:15 Human resources and the growth of Industrial Relations during the 1970s. Writing the first text book with Steve Deery. Putting on more units as the student numbers grow. Crossing boundaries at the University. 00:37:45 The bubble bursts with Whitlam. Protected economy and tariffs. Unions and managers. Employers and unions and civil action. National prizes. Employment relations. Coming home in 1993. Significant changes. Australian industrial relations. Led from Melbourne and Sydney. Reputation of UWA. 00:43:20 UWA existing rather than flourishing. Economics makes the decisions. John Nobby and the Scottish study. Researching and unfortunate disconnect. Shaking the system along in a non-vibrant situation. Track 2 00:00:00 Memories of 1993 Director of the school of management. Roy Lourens. Being interviewed for the position. Concerns of the university. Curtin, ECU and Murdoch. MBA. Graduate schools of management. Remit and student numbers. Engaging with the business community. Underfunded by the University. 00:05:30 Problems associated with the running of the school. Parking problems. Frustrations experienced. Memories of the Graduate School of Management. Charging fees. Fragmentation of economics. New departments created. Department of Information and Marketing, Department of Organisational and Labour Studies. Budgetary lines. University an unhappy camp. 00:10:33 Resentment of the Graduate School of Management. Entrepreneurialism works against school. Aims for change and direction. Marketing. The articulated sequence of graduation. MBA a first degree. Restrictions and going overseas. Singapore, Indonesia and Shanghai. 00:14:40 Network creations across Australia. Lack of credits from UWA. Universal recognition of the MBA degrees. Research and recruiting. Doctorate of Business Administration. The guru from the east. 00:17:10 Internationalisation and the big achievements. Opportunity. Mature age. Off-shore orientation. People around the world know of UWA. Concerns over student numbers. Repositioning and restructuring. Picture of UWA with other universities. Don’t take opposition for granted. Curtin and its reputation and transformation. Status. 00:22:40 Comparisons with Curtin – a top institution. Two institutions with different philosophies and competitiveness. Internationalisation of UWA. Travelling overseas and spending time in Singapore. Progress and turnaround. 00:27:30 Growth over the last twenty years. Policy of no growth. Alan Robson. Population and the loss of the students. Increase and diverse students. Buildings the architectural statements. 00:30:50 Community and interfaculty relations. Chairman of the Academic Board. Budget and equality for faculties and departments. Good will of deans. Important people. Memories of Robson and Fay Gale. Paradox of Alan Robson. Loss of respect. 00:37:00 1995 Finance and empowerment. Legal nicety and investment. Significant returns and negative income. Distribution of funds. Large teaching faculties suffer. 00:41:20 Research for betterment of University. Lip service for teaching function of the university. Future framework. Ready for the centenary. When was the university started? What will the courses be like? Course structures. Community involvement. Implementations of ideas and range of courses. Significant changes. Cycle one and two. Future Framework Implementation Committee hardly ever meets. The overseer and less hands-on. Track 3 00:00:00 Publications, research and the University in the community. Kierath and wages of the poor. Set minimum wage for the state. Eclectic research. Asian business development. Published in the area of Public relations. Setting a minimum – Justice Higgins. Reasonable living conditions and the family wage. 0:05:24 ABS and consumer index. Restructuring an index. Wages in Western Australia. Chair a number of reviews. School for women’s health and sport science. Way of problems coming to the fore. Fascinating way to learn about the university. 00:09:33 Large number of senior appointments. Ad hoc senate member. Medicine. Seeing the university changing. Interfaculty relationships. So many heads at the University. Working for the Chancellery for new courses. 00:14:07 Seeing the direction of the University. Significant leaps and bounds. Current position of the University. Institution as a whole has a lot of pluses. Unravelling the index of university rating system. Good teaching research and integration in the community. 00:19:40 Money and rating as a teaching institution. Narrow basis for rating. Myopic university. External involvement with child migrants and CBERS. Maltese child migrant. Discussing the child migrant system. 00:25:30 Legacy of being a migrant. Margaret Humphreys Trust. CBERS try to bring about remedies. Decision making. Child migrants of Malta. 00:28:30 Exposing this and that. Pay outs for Tardun and Clontarf boys. Getting an apology. Catholic Church. Legal action and redress. Apology is a powerful thing. Girls and boy child migrants. Statues. 00:34:33 Order of Australia and other awards. Fellow Australian institute of Management Senior honorary fellow of Corporate Directors Association of Australia. Helping development of countries. Nominated for awards. 00:39:10 Students then and now. Numbers grow. Students were a lot more carefree. Debating use of technologies. Lectures taped and made available. Different environment. Colombo Plan. Students from all over the world. Staff from overseas. Internationalisation and isolation of university. 00:45:00 Students and electronic technology. Recreation side pushed out of the university. Pressure on staff and students. A fortunate life. Audio Files Links to audio files <a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/8ec1a6de2e4da871abf53834dcab396c.mp3">Plowman, Interview 1, Track 1</a> <br /><a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/1442dfedaa4142d3112cacab3d838e86.mp3">Plowman, Interview 1, Track 2</a> <br /><a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/4691114cc12b691380d623b464ea8339.mp3">Plowman, Interview 1, Track 3</a> Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource David Plowman interview, 4 September 2012 Subject The topic of the resource Management Description An account of the resource Winthrop Professor David Plowman (1942-2013) was Foundation Director of the Graduate School of Management at UWA from 1993. During the interview he discusses his experiences of studying at UWA before studying in Melbourne. He talks of the development of his career and work at the University of New South Wales, and about of his return to Western Australia to take on the role of Foundation Professor at the university. He relates his extensive involvement in the fields of Industrial Relations and Organisational Behaviour. Plowman took on numerous roles at the University of Western Australia including Director of Postgraduate Programs in the UWA Business School and Chair of the Academic Board. He was also a member of the Future Framework Implementation Committee and a member of the Board of Coursework Studies. He speaks at length of the current and future path of the university. He outlines the great changes that he has experienced at the University and reflects on both the positive and negative aspects associated with the University’s development and current world ranking. A child migrant from Malta, David Plowman was awarded the Order of Australia Medal for his work with the community and the migrant population. Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource Plowman, David Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available University of Western Australia Historical Society Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource Copyright holder University of Western Australia Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource MP3 files Type The nature or genre of the resource Oral History Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource UWA ORAL HISTORIES Description An account of the resource A collection of interviews with former UWA staff, recorded by the <a href="http://www.alumni.uwa.edu.au/community/historical-society" target="_blank">UWA Historical Society</a> to mark the Centenary of the University in 2013. <br />The UWA Historical Society’s <a href="http://www.alumni.uwa.edu.au/community/historical-society/oral-histories" target="_blank">Oral History Program</a> started as a project with four oral histories funded from Society resources. It was then expanded with support from every Faculty on campus, the Guild, Convocation and through private donations. Additional funding was received through a Heritage Grant. Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available University of Western Australia Historical Society Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource University of Western Australia Historical Society Oral History A resource containing historical information obtained in interviews with persons having firsthand knowledge. Interviewer The person(s) performing the interview John Bannister Interviewee The person(s) being interviewed Joan Pope Duration Length of time involved (seconds, minutes, hours, days, class periods, etc.) Interview 1: 55 minutes, 17 seconds Interview 2: 23 minutes, 19 seconds Interview 3: 55 minutes, 3 seconds Total: 2 hours, 13 minutes, 39 seconds Bit Rate/Frequency Rate at which bits are transferred (i.e. 96 kbit/s would be FM quality audio) 128 kbs Time Summary A summary of an interview given for different time stamps throughout the interview Interview 1 00:00:00 Dr Joan Pope. Background information. Memories of brother at UWA St. George's College. Exciting times watching Catalinas on the Swan River from the St. Georges Tower. Memories of the Winthrop hall tower. Trolley bus seen from. University towers, St George’s College, 00:02:58 Going to do music exams at the Chancellor's room. Meetings at the chancellor’s room. Sir Frank Callaway. First Music student in Arts 1954. Changing faculties to do music. Brother was not called up for War Service. Arts student, Sir Frank Callaway, music 00:05:39 Concerts at Winthrop Hall. Father and the combined choir. Mother and starting music. Memories of the university. Dorothy Fleming and dance classes in the 1940s. Revived Greek dance and creative use of the body. Winthrop Hall, Dorothy Fleming, dance classes 00:07:32 Dancing in The Sunken Garden. Long connection of UWA and looking at the way University of Western Australia was being run. A peaceful and orderly place. Passes to access the University buildings and the Americans. Nancy S1ewart and psychology. Pope experimented on at the Irwin street buildings as a child. The Sunken Garden, Nancy Stewart, Irwin Street Building 00:10:20 Impressions of the Irwin St building. Only 250 girls doing leaving school exams. Tiny place. Memories of struggling to find way through UWA. Involved in 20 plays and Prosh. Experience of trip to England in the coronation year. Wearing casual clothes at UWA. Joan in the Daily News. Breaking traditions of UWA girls. Irwin St building, plays and Prosh 00:14:30 Meeting Professor Callaway and music and Dalcroze Eurhythmics. Knocking on the door of the vice-chancellor and speaking to the professorial board. Frank Callaway's alternative view. Seeing UWA from an arts point of view. Memories of Josh Reynolds and the college plays. Professor Fox. Interesting experiments in Psych. Loved being there. Involved in many societies. Callaway, Josh Reynolds, Dalcroze Eurhythmics, Professor Fox 00:18:10 Starting the Fencing Club and Lou Klepac * and the weightlifting club. Guild and Societies council. Mrs Hazlehurst and Mrs. McGowan. Organising things for students. Memories of playing Lady Godiva in Prosh. Members of the staff. Bert Buttle* and Mr [George) Munns. People have loyalty to the place. First hearing of Convocation. Getting involved in organisation. Two women on Guild. Giving a Socrates* speech and getting onto Guild council. Coming involved in council and the Machiavellian undertones. Fencing Club, Guild, Mrs. Hazlehurst*, Mrs. McGowan*, Prosh, staff, Bert Buttle*, Mr Munns, Convocation 00:22:52 Getting involved and restrictions. The guild council would go on for a long time. Reps from The Senate at the Guild council meetings. Miss Jean Rogerson* Warden of Convocation. Conversation and the calling together of interesting elders. Getting the prize of Convocation. Including of the governance of the university. Convocation, Jean Rogerson, governance 00:22:52 Early impressions of Jean Rogerson*. Pale and not given to a lot of talking. A figure to be noticed. The Crawley Magazine. Honoured to be the 3rd female Warden of Convocation. Dr Roberta Jull. And ‘The’ Miss Rogerson .A great honour of being Warden. Warden of Convocation, Jean Rogerson, Roberto Jull 00:28:00 Working way through UWA and memories and understanding of Convocation. Convocation did not have a place. Convocation was and still is invisible. Irwin street building and Convocation pavilion. Impressions of understanding Convocation. Joining committees. Kit [Katherine) Gray and Dorothy Ransom. Active in community activities. Irwin St, Kit Gray, Dorothy Ransom, Convocation 00:33:00 Part time work and WAIT. Physical education. Sessonal teaching. Committees and Advisory Committee for Aged Services. Committee of Convocation wasn't like any other committee. Number of different agendas. Were or were not aligned with others. Subterranean things. What was Convocation was there for. Representative body of graduates. Subscription base. Representative body, committees, agendas 00:38:40 Why didn't it have any money. Convocation as a body and disinterest. Initiatives and subscription base. Elections. Numbers of people that vote for Convocation. Charming people on Convocation. Silberstein and Priest. Older and younger people. A lot of puzzles associated with Convocation. Silberstein, Priest, elections, subscription 00:43:17 Impressions of sustaining Convocation. Clerk of Convocation and the governance of Convocation. Deputy warden to Bruce James. Secretary of Convocation June Blake*. Keeping records for whom and for what. Looking at records. The West Australian reports about the Convocation. Convocation views on Endowment lands. Convocation has a duty on the statutes. Dawkins* revolution and the Hetherington report. Numbers on senate. Implications for senate. Bruce James, June Blake, Dawkins, Hetherington* 00:47:42 Women on committees. Which committees have a say so. On Senate as an observer. Meetings and the standing committee. Meeting an extraordinary number of interesting people. Women, committees, Senate 00:49:29 Grey area for needs of the graduates. Things that worked in Convocation. Practical things that grabbed people. Lead up to the 75th anniversary. Plaque and the Irwin St building. The events committee and America’s Cup. Sitting on the art collection board. Holmes a Court, Heymans*. The Lawrence Wilson Gallery. Mallor's* money and Bob Smith. Raising money for the Art Gallery. Memories of painting ducks for money. Juniper and Haynes. The alumni association was a bone of contention. Trevor Wigney*. Getting big bickies from the alumni. 75th anniversary, Irwin St building, Lawrence Wilson Gallery, Mallor's*, painting ducks for money, The Alumni Association, Trevor Wigney* Interview 2 00:00:00 Alumni Association with lots of finance. Alumni send a chill through the members of the standing committee. Vice chancellors like control over fundraising activities. Guild presidents Bob Nicholson* and David McKinlay* Professor Clyde. Trevor Wigney*. Senate pro the idea setting up something. Major fund raising set up through and the Hackett foundation and the Office of Development. Convocation and making bridges and working together. Voluntary service and the Hetherington* Report. Electing 6 senate members by Convocation. Alumni Association, Bob Nicholson*, David McKinlay*, Trevor Wigney*, Senate, Hackett foundation, Office of Development. Convocation, Hetherington* Report 00:03:30 Somerville announces that Convocation is a sluggish moribund body. The vision and the Somerville auditorium. Fred Alexander and the Adult Education Board. University revue and the Winthrop hall and the auditorium. The roman word auditorium seems like a strange word to use in the Australian bush. Somerville, Fred Alexander, Winthrop Hall 0:06:00 By 1980 nothing much has changed. Convocation a play thing for a few members. People on Convocation and thoughts regarding other committees. Doing things in a commemorative fashion. Rie Heymans. Convocation and the Friends of the Art Gallery. Bruce James was a Sunday painter. James Watson an art collector. Idea of the Friends of the gallery and the Senate's Art Collection Committee. Committees, Rie Heymans*, Bruce James, James Watson, Senates Art Collection Committee. 00:08:30 Deputy warden and memories of other wardens. Bruce James. Convocation and the Friends of the library and Prof Silberstein. Convocation and finance for the historical society. Irwin street building and preservation for practical purposes. The fairy steps at the Sunken Garden and landscaping of the steps by Jean Brodie-Hall*. War time demountables and the Irwin St buildings. Festival of Perth and John Birman* and the Adult Education Board. 1953 Festival of Perth runs out of the old buildings. Bruce James, Prof Silberstein, Irwin street building, Jean Brodie Hall*, Festival of Perth, John Birman*, Adult Education Board 00:12:14 Rescuing parts of the buildings. Entrance hall and the vice chancellors office and senate room and library. Convocation and the cost of moving and restoring the old building. Asking graduates for money. University and the alumni association and finance. Working parties set up to draw up a list of graduates. 4000 names turn into 10000 names for an appeal. Subcommittees working for a purpose. Publicity and promotion. Senate room, money, alumni association, working for a purpose. 00:16:11 Bob Hawke was accosted at a cricket match. White-anting going on. Exciting projects and the Irwin street building and graduates. Kath Gordon and Annie Anderson, Miss Burgess and people who had been heads of departments. Donations and personal relationship stuff happening. Making contacts and friendships in Perth. Development and finance and initiatives that were taken. Hard to get staff to run committees and minutes. No memory bank. Difficult times with staff. Bob Hawke, Kath Gordon, Annie Anderson, Miss Burgess, staff 00:19:56 Furthering the work of the university in the community. Extension service and adult education and outreach into the community. Linking work of UWA more closely with Convocation. Things have become more rigid. Involving voluntary committees with great ideas and changes in Convocation. outreach into the community, voluntary committees Interview 3 00:00:00 Memories of Convocation in the 1980s. Gathering more people around Convocation. The official meetings and disappointing numbers. Small functions. Tapping into people. Maintain contacts friend raising and fundraising. 25 and 50th anniversaries and reunions. Hackett scholarships, travelling P and O scholarships. Getting people together for a particular purpose. Encouragement awards. Push for postgraduate awards. Meetings, friend raising, fund raising, anniversaries, Hackett Scholarships, travelling scholarships, awards. 00:05:35 Deans came in academic dress. Memories of wearing gowns. Relaxed and formal. Being deputy and becoming warden. Bruce James and James Watson. Being nominated. West Australian women's fellowship. The art gallery and art collection board. Molly Roberts and Patrick Cornish. Convocation has its own magazine. Volunteers and staff. deputy warden, Bruce James, James Watson, West Australian Women's Fellowship, Molly Roberts,* Patrick Cornish staff 00:08:50 The Crawley and the UniView. Having your own magazine and rubbing people up the wrong way. Hew Roberts. The lack of corporate memory. Pauline Tremlett trying to catch pieces from the minutes. Events and lunches in the city. Connections with the guild. The Crawley, UniView, Hew Roberts*, corporate memory, Pauline Tremlett, Guild 00:12:30 Lack of gatherings. Jean Rogerson* and the trip to China. Plans for resuscitation. Bob Smith moving to have alumni. AUGC Australian University Graduates conference. Not all universities have Convocation. Universities viewing each other. People on convocation who have grand ideas. Jean Rogerson, alumni, AUGC Australian University Graduates conference 00:16:15 Trying to raise funds for graduates. Travelling. Award brings dream closer. International children's theatre .Awards and accolades. Involved on sub committees. Hoping to contribute to the centenary. Involved again on the lunch reunions. Looking through the records. Funds, awards, sub committees 00:19:30 Antagonistic feelings in the committees. Handling people on the committee. Men didn't like having women in the chair. The Crawley editorial subcommittee. New names and a blocked vote. Convocation replaces the warden via announcement via the Newspaper. women in the chair, Convocation replaces the warden 00:25:39 Withdrawing the nomination. Acting like local government. Helping graduates and representing graduates voice. Graduates elected to the senate. Representing views. Chancellors and graduates of the university. Reporting back to the current council. Withdrawing, graduates voice, graduates 00:28:20 Collaboration with the post graduates association. Convocation could help in a way. Assisting with post graduate enquiries and work placements. Mentorship. Needing more staff. Calling on past graduates to help with placements. Lack of staff and the growth of graduates. Collaboration, graduates association, mentorship 00:31:49 Convocation today and interaction with other universities. Sharing ideas. Wishing Convocation had more staff and it own building. Staff and money is a huge inhibitor. Conscious of the changes. Changing the title Trying to describe to people that it was the graduate's association. People are confused as member of Convocations and association. Sharing ideas. Wishing Convocation had more staff and its own building. Staff, graduate's association 00:36:50 Wish that they wouldn't call themselves the graduates association. The Convocation of UWA graduates. Email and change. Voting on line. Barriers and hurdles first. Pauline Tremlett and Unison*. Getting organisations and network and societies of the university to be aware of each other. Being proactive. Money. Pauline Tremlett, Unison* 00:40:21 Abundant evidence of money being spent on ideas that will go belly up. Important people and groups on Convocation .The loyal women. Putting energy into a committee. People with the time to give. Retired professors, academics and fellows. Money, loyal women, fellows 00:43:45 Particular role for people who have had staff associations. Losing contact with some. Coming back to Convocation. Trying to come to meetings. Stoush about the Alan Robson and endowment lands bushlands. staff associations, meetings 00:48:18 Being involved and seeing UWA without Convocation. Sense of a role of its history. Overseas graduates. Events held in faraway places. Convocation representatives on the team. Turning up on graduate nights. Overseas graduates, Convocation representatives, graduate nights 00:51:30 Upgrading website. Convocation is not high in the list. Balance between office of development and office alumni relations. Swamping Convocation. Intra state and interstate. Convocation gathering together like-minded bodies. The world is geared to marketing. Convocation marketing itself. Convocation needs to be a chameleon*. alumni relations, marketing Audio Files Links to audio files <a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/7f53c90530f57762c0061684f57a15e8.mp3">Pope, Interview 1, Track 1</a> <br /><a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/8567eecc3bf832c0a1ce94eb6ace4d7e.mp3">Pope, Interview 1, Track 2</a> <br /><a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/daf90977039bfacd112ea88aae9df42c.mp3">Pope, Interview 2, Track 1</a> Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Joan Pope interview, 26 October 2011 and 2 November 2011 Subject The topic of the resource Music Description An account of the resource Dr Joan Pope OAM, Dalcroze Australia President, holds the Diplôme Superieur of the Institut Jaques-Dalcroze, Geneva and has influenced a generation of teachers, artists and performers through her teaching of music and related arts in Western Australian universities. She has given Dalcroze workshops around Australia and south-east Asia. Joan has been on many national and international committees for dance, theatre, music and physical education and in 2001 was awarded the Medal of the Order of Australia and the Centenary of Federation Medal for her contributions to creative arts in the community which included initiating Festivals for Children, Children’s Activities Time Society, Playgrounds on Demand and AYPAA, the Australian Youth Performing Arts Association. Joan is an Hon. Life member of AUSDANCE, a Fellow of ACHPER, and served as Dance Co-ordinator for WA, and on the National Board for a number of years, in addition to her participation with the ACHPER Nursing Homes recreation project. A former Warden of Convocation, The University of WA honoured her with the Chancellor's Medal. She completed doctoral studies at Monash University in 2008 researching the teaching of Dalcroze Eurhythmics in Australia and New Zealand between 1918 and 1929. Joan has served on the Heather Gell Dalcroze Foundation as a Trustee, and published several books on the 'Music Through Movement' life and lessons of Heather Gell with the assistance of the former Callaway Resource Centre for Music Education at the School of Music UWA. 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Title A name given to the resource UWA ORAL HISTORIES Description An account of the resource A collection of interviews with former UWA staff, recorded by the <a href="http://www.alumni.uwa.edu.au/community/historical-society" target="_blank">UWA Historical Society</a> to mark the Centenary of the University in 2013. <br />The UWA Historical Society’s <a href="http://www.alumni.uwa.edu.au/community/historical-society/oral-histories" target="_blank">Oral History Program</a> started as a project with four oral histories funded from Society resources. It was then expanded with support from every Faculty on campus, the Guild, Convocation and through private donations. Additional funding was received through a Heritage Grant. Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available University of Western Australia Historical Society Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource University of Western Australia Historical Society Oral History A resource containing historical information obtained in interviews with persons having firsthand knowledge. Interviewer The person(s) performing the interview John Bannister Interviewee The person(s) being interviewed Keith Punch Location The location of the interview Perth, W.A. Duration Length of time involved (seconds, minutes, hours, days, class periods, etc.) Interview 1: 46 minutes, 48 seconds Interview 2: 20 minutes, 12 minutes Interview 3: 54 minutes, 44 seconds Total: 2 hours, 1 minute, 44 seconds Bit Rate/Frequency Rate at which bits are transferred (i.e. 96 kbit/s would be FM quality audio) 128 kbs Time Summary A summary of an interview given for different time stamps throughout the interview Track 1 00:00:00 Early schooling Perth Modern School and initial impressions of UWA. 1960 and the Arts degree. Studying languages. Introduction to UWA from cricket involvement and success. University Cricket Club team of the century. 00:08:30 Initial impressions of the University in the late 1950s. No induction. Bewildering experiences. Memories of early university days. 00:11:40 Community of learning. Cricket. Memories of the removal of cricket from the university on James Oval. Memories of the social life, cross-fertilisation and socialisation. Direction for career. Bonded to the Education Department. Memories of the WACA and the French Club. Terminating honours in French. Memories of a salutary experience. 00:17:50 Learning lessons from Bert Priest. Becoming a teacher in local schools. Reporting to Northam Senior High School and studying as an external student. Winning the prize for best student in Economics 100. Winning a prize without doing lectures. 00:22:16 Wanting to hang around universities. Wanting to do a PhD and applying for a scholarship. Winning scholarships to Harvard, England and Canada. Bert Priest is influential and gives advice. The old world and the new world. Going to Toronto. 00:24:30 Experiences of heading overseas. Brilliantly prepared by UWA to work in North America. Very good foundations from UWA. Discussions with Robertson head of education about future career. Working as a school teacher at Hollywood High School and working in Toronto. Coming back to UWA in 1970. 00:28:58 Funny story of coming back to Perth. Applying for Bert Anderson’s job. Two years becomes forty one years. Impressions of coming back to work in 1970. Changes in the 1970s. Bert Priest and changes to the faculty. Social science research. Memories of the university house and the mix of the community and academic at UWA. Corporatisation of the university. 00:37:20 Moving the Faculty of Education off campus. Memories of Shenton House and the faculty and the annex. The Reid Library building. The Nedlands campus. Psychological distance. The pressure of work and the Department of Classics put on lunches. 00:39:50 Non-existent international reputation of the university. Experiences of acceptance in other universities. UWA arts degree compared to other world universities. Current reputation. Memories of senior lecturer. The quality of student at UWA. Research training. Carrying a huge work and supervision load. CUHK. Research and a research university. Doctoral study. Students supervised go on to successful academic careers. Changes. Track 2 00:00:00 Research methods training. Sociology of education. The demand for training grows and student numbers swell. Demand for research training workshops in Indonesia. Qualitative, quantitative and mixed methods. Research world divided down the middle. Quantitative and qualitative researchers. Paradigm wars. Lack of text books for the course work. Writing a book for courses on research. Sage Publications. Encouragement by Sage Books. Starting a writing program. 00:04:30 Concentrating on research methods. The growth and reputation of UWA. UWA was a professional training school. Numbers and quality of the students. Things that universities are concerned about today. Internationalisation of the University today. Review done in 1994 in the Graduate School of Education. The School was not in great shape. Recommendations of the review. Budget was a mess. Looking offshore for transnational programs. Interesting opportunities in Hong Kong and Singapore. Working in Hong Kong in Master’s education program in 1995. Course work Masters program taught overseas. 00:08:50 Programmes grow to be big and profitable. Singapore and degrees offshore. D.E.D. Doctoral Education Degree. Programs going strong overseas. Director of international programs from 1995 to 2010. Financial life-blood for UWA. 00:11:16 Interfaculty relations. Educational Management school. Sports science. David Andrich and others associated with other schools. Stand-alone faculty. Alan Robson and interfaculty absorption. Staying as a one school faculty. Merging with the Graduate School of Management. School of Professional Studies. 00:16:04 The university and its contribution to learning and community. Reaching out into the community with the Festival of Perth and a public university. An arrogant institution. The university as a large and complex organisation. A wonderful location. Alan Robson and good relations with government. Publicising the university. Track 3 00:00:00 Training teachers and researchers. Higher degree students. Major changes for graduates. Research methods studies. World-wide debate success and academics prejudices. Forums and open debates. Methodological questions. More concerned with research training from the 1980s. Getting into strife with the university. 00:06:00 Supervision of students. PhD students. Complementary methodological partnership approach. Mature age students doing master or doctoral degrees. Designing studies and researching studies. Supervision of research students. Being led into writing from research. 00:09:40 Chinese University of Hong Kong C.U.H.K transnational interactions of the university. Singapore’s Wah Chong Institution and the Master’s programme. Lesley Lisovich. Graduates on the staff and teachers with doctoral degrees in Singapore. Popularity of UWA for international students. Advantages and rankings. One-on-one institutional interactions. 00:17:15 Staff training as a spin off for writing. Allan Walker and the Chinese University of Hong Kong. Working on supervision and career planning and the success of the work at C.U.H.K. Learning about benefits for UWA and the international student. Supporting students whose first language is a foreign language. 00:24:00 Important people associated with the development of UWA. Bert Priest. Memories of Peter Tannock, John Hattie, Michael Scriven, Col Sanders and David Andrich. UWA and the competition of academic field. Graduate school. Graduates from school and the training of teachers. Higher degree programs. UWA leading the way. UWA has largest doctoral student numbers in WA. 00:32:00 Advantages of UWA and teachers in the industry. Present-day business of publishing. Personal involvements at Notre Dame University. Notre Dame and its location within the city of Fremantle. Older European universities. Peter Tannock. Comparisons to UWA campus. Taking pride in the building of a university. 00:37:00 Discussions and process of writing – Introductions to social research and research methods. Writing series. Introduction for research methods for education. Advice for the teacher. Writing and teaching and the growth of the university. Strategic decisions for the university. Corporatized university. Intellectual environment and the administration. 00:49:30 Business administration at the university over the past 40 years. Not involved with the higher councils of the university. Views and memories of Alan Robson. Looking back at an extremely lucky career. 00:54:44 Audio Files Links to audio files <a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/b29cd42867a50dda13164c4afa2ccb5f.mp3">Punch, Interview 1, Track 1</a> <br /><a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/c2fce65790575e43dfa27a2a2788a095.mp3">Punch, Interview 1, Track 2</a> <br /><a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/5ca45eb975124916e4264d01d7d1e8c1.mp3">Punch, Interview 1, Track 3</a> Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Keith Punch interview, 30 August 2012 Subject The topic of the resource Education Description An account of the resource This is an interview with Professor Keith Punch, who was a student at the university from 1957 to 1963 and returned to the staff of the Faculty of Education in 1970. He looks at the great sense of community that he experienced firstly as student and also as a staff member. He was a successful cricketer at the university and at a state level. He recalls some of the many changes to the university that he has seen over the last 50 years. Included in his memories are the lost sense of academic community at UWA and the pressures placed on academics by changes to bureaucracy and the growing corporatisation of the university. He looks at significant changes to the Faculty of Education. He was heavily involved in the University’s transnational studies programmes and he talks about his role in university interactions and opportunities in Hong Kong and Singapore. He looks at his work in Hong Kong in the Master’s Education Programme in 1995 and coursework in the Master’s programme taught overseas. He also discusses his research, writing and teaching in the field of research methods. Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource Punch, Keith Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available University of Western Australia Historical Society Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource Copyright holder University of Western Australia Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource MP3 files Type The nature or genre of the resource Oral History Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource UWA ORAL HISTORIES Description An account of the resource A collection of interviews with former UWA staff, recorded by the <a href="http://www.alumni.uwa.edu.au/community/historical-society" target="_blank">UWA Historical Society</a> to mark the Centenary of the University in 2013. <br />The UWA Historical Society’s <a href="http://www.alumni.uwa.edu.au/community/historical-society/oral-histories" target="_blank">Oral History Program</a> started as a project with four oral histories funded from Society resources. It was then expanded with support from every Faculty on campus, the Guild, Convocation and through private donations. Additional funding was received through a Heritage Grant. Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available University of Western Australia Historical Society Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource University of Western Australia Historical Society Oral History A resource containing historical information obtained in interviews with persons having firsthand knowledge. Interviewer The person(s) performing the interview Julia Wallis Interviewee The person(s) being interviewed T Alex Reid Location The location of the interview Yokine, W.A. Duration Length of time involved (seconds, minutes, hours, days, class periods, etc.) Interview 1: 58 minutes, 35 seconds Interview 2: 1 hour, 7 minutes, 43 seconds Total: 2 hours, 6 minutes, 18 seconds Bit Rate/Frequency Rate at which bits are transferred (i.e. 96 kbit/s would be FM quality audio) 128 kbs Time Summary A summary of an interview given for different time stamps throughout the interview Interview 1 Track 1 00:00 Introduction by Julia Wallis 01:05 Track 2 00:00 Thomas Alexander Reid was born in Nottingham. The family migrated to Perth when he was 14 years old. He attended John Curtin High School. He did a degree in maths and applied maths at UWA. His student number was 600329. The Mathematics Departments was upstairs in what is now the Vice Chancery. The library was in the northern wing where the visitors centre is now. Physics and Chemistry were in the buildings that are Geology and Geography. The Reid Library was completed in 1964 and the new Physics Building was built after he had finished doing that subject. The expanding campus included the construction of the new Arts building. 05:49 Students from other faculties mixed as the campus was compact. Alex was a committee member of the Christian Union and met his wife Helen at a car rally put on by them. Their first date was at a play put on by the University Dramatic Society at the Dolphin Theatre. Alex joined the university rowing club and was a founding member of the soccer club. 11:03 There were girls studying maths and applied maths. Peter Winter lectured in Applied Mathematics and was a tutor. Having a mathematics degree gave students a range for options that used maths as a foundation unit. Alex went into computing. 14:33 During Alex’s second year at UWA he took a cadetship with the Department of Supply and went to work at the Weapons Research Establishment (WRE) in Adelaide in the vacations. When he arrived in November 1961 he was put in the maths services group which had a computer. There were no computers in WA at this time. The computer took up a whole room but was much slower than a smartphone! There were other students from UWA there as well as two lecturers Malcolm Hood and Peter Winter. WRE were tracking rockets and using complicated mathematics for computing their trajectory. The Centre was the base for the Woomera Rocket Range and one of the projects they were working on was the British Blue Streak Rocket. When Alex graduated he returned to work here permanently (1963-1965), married Helen in 1964 and settled in Adelaide. 22:09 Alex then took a job with the Bureau of Census and Statistics and did some training in Canberra before moving to take up a job in Perth in 1966. The freeway and the Narrows Bridge had been built. Alex worked on tools for manipulating census data. Then they built what was called a Table Generator which allowed you to pull out specific data quickly. This was a Control Data computer. It was one of the fastest computers in the country. The first computer in Perth was the IBM1620 which was installed at UWA in 1962. Undergraduate students were not allowed to use the computer. By the time Alex came back to Perth this computer had been superseded. 28:08 In March 1969, Alex came to work as a programmer at the Computing Centre at UWA. By now they had the first time-share computer - the PDP-6. All the other computers were batch operated. About 50 terminals could access the computer simultaneously. In addition, it ran an experiment for the Department of Psychology with a rat race in real time. There were also Physics experiments conducted on it. Alex started working on UNIWAFT which diagnosed problems with computer programmes. This was up and running at the end of 1970. Denis Moore was the Director of the Computer Centre which was located in the new Physics Department. The staff was housed in wooden demountable buildings in Irwin Street on campus. The centre devised a programme called MINWAFT to assist State Schools to introduce computing in schools. 37:13 Within about 18 months, Alex was promoted to Applications Manager and later Assistant Director (1974-1979). He was Acting Director from time to time and became Director in 1979 when Dennis Moore resigned. He remained in this position until 1991. Another big project was LOANLY – an automated loan system for the Reid Library. This was the first self service automation system installed in a library world-wide. David Knoll was the librarian involved in the project. The project had its teething problems but was running very well by 1977. Alex gave a lecture to the Computer Society in Perth about the project and was voted lecturer of the year in WA (and runner up in Australia). He gave lectures on LOANLY throughout Australia and in Britain. Sir Maurice Wilkes from Cambridge University came to Perth in July 1971 and gave a day seminar and Alex shared the platform talking about online computing and data bases. He also developed a course on data bases. UWA was quite advanced. 45:31 When Dennis Moore arrived he started a postgraduate diploma course called a Dip NAAC (Numerical Analysis and Automatic Computing). In 1969, the name was changed to Dip Com (a Diploma of Computation). Alex did this Diploma part-time in 1969. This was the only university course available in computing at this time. You had to already have a degree to be accepted on the course. By 1975, a separate department was needed and the Department of Computer Science was set up. Professor Jeff Roehl was the Foundation Professor . 48:32 Track 3 00:00 LOANLY was named after the character Lonely in the TV series Callan. A paper on the project was submitted to the Australian Computer Society for the Case Study Prize and won the prize in 1978. With the proceeds he bought his first micro-computer for $500. Alex’s eldest son programmed Space Invaders on it. He became a Professor of Computing at Oxford University and has recently moved to Adelaide. It was not until the IBM PC hit the market that computers became available for use by the students. Costs had come down at lot. The IBM 1620 cost $88,054 (£44,027). The PDP6 cost $469,000. IBM was known as Snow White and the Seven Dwarves in the computer marketplace. 05:47 At about the same time that Maurice Wilkes gave the lecture on multi-access computer systems, Dennis and Alex ran a course for the UWA Extension Service called Computer Programming and Data Management for On-line Systems. It was a 25-week course of study that started in March 1971 on data bases and data management. People came from government departments and other companies outside UWA. Towards the end of the course the students had access to the PDP6 to enter data and search the data base with a programme called DAMP (Data Management Access Package) which taught students about Codasyl . It was an early example of online learning. 08:58 Interview 2 Track 1 00:00 Introduction by Julia Wallis 00:54 Track 2 00:00 WARCC (the Western Australian Regional Computing Centre) was formed in 1972. The IBM 1620 was the first programmable computer in WA. Main Roads also had one. Other people could use the computer but time-sharing really took off when the PDP6 arrived. Now several users (such as the SEC, WAIT, and PMG) could use the computer simultaneously and remotely by telephone line. Every 3 years the universities were offered grants towards buying computers from the AUC . In 1970-1972, the government only gave grants to universities that would agree to co-operate with other nearby universities or other entities. None of the other big universities did get grants but UWA was prepared to share resources. UWA and several key stakeholders put in funds, which together with the government grant, enabled them to buy a larger computer. 05:05 The computer was a Cyber 72 (derived from the CDC7600) purchased from Control Data Corporation in the USA and was installed in August 1972. It was designed by Seymour Cray. These computers were among the first to contain multiple processors. It was upgraded from time to time and disk drives were added. A lot of effort was made to make sure that everyone’s information was kept private. This introduced the use of passwords. Hackers were not so common then. IBM was probably the first company to develop compatible computers. 11:41 The WARCC was housed and run by UWA but was self-supporting and independent of UWA. Gradually the range of services provided increased. WARCC started to write computer programmes and software for other organisations. Some of the programmers were placed in different government departments on secondments. They had a large training unit. The purpose built basement in the Physics Department had to be extended to expand with the needs of the WARCC. They even housed and managed computers for other organisations such as the Health Department. WARCC operated a little bit like an incubation unit until people had the skills and know-how to operate and run their own computers. People gradually became independent of WARCC and mini-computers accelerated this process. Micro-computers were even more affordable. 16:50 UWA was the leader in computing in WA. Alex’s boss, the Director, Dennis Moore, set up the Central Government computing facility and worked with the Health Department. Alex was Assistant Director of WARCC from 1974-1979 and was appointed Director when Dennis Moore resigned. Networking also lessened the need for time sharing. WARCC was working on networking computers and the idea of using the internet, similar to ARPANET which was developed by the US Department of Defence. WARCC developed a packet-switching network which connected a number of computers and terminals around WA. Unfortunately by this time, the need and will for sharing information was waning. Alex talks about two types of computer sharing: 1 computer connected to remote terminal 2 computer connected to remote batch station The third type of networking which he didn’t discuss on audio was computer-computer network connections: very common now (eg the whole Internet/Web is built on this), but back then very rare. In 1977 WARCC built the first multi-host packet-switched network in Australia - it interconnected various computers in WA; ultimately, you could just buy this "off the shelf", as indeed was done to establish AARNet connecting all universities in 1989. Although the work they did didn’t lead directly to AARNet, it give confidence to the university/computing community that this was feasible. 20:47 The computing centre was evolving. It moved into networking and micro computing. WARCC allowed people to rent micro-computers. It was financially quite challenging to change the role of the WARCC and move with the times. They borrowed money from UWA to invest in new computers and paid the money back over the years. When Alex left WARCC at the end of 1991, they had finally paid off their debt. WARCC was turned into a much more commercial enterprise separate from UWA. Alex resigned as Director and became the IT Policy Officer at UWA and did this from 1991-1993. WARCC changed its name to Winthrop Technology and it was left to the University Computing Services to run the network within the university. 23:29 With the rise of mini and micro-computers, UWA began to embrace computers in the workplace. They were used for scientific and engineering experimentation. UWA staff became top users of computers in Australian universities. In 1993, the Chancellor decided that there was no requirement for a central computing facility or any need for guidance and policy. Alex was made redundant and became Director of Oxford University Computing Services (1993-2000). In 2000, he was head-hunted back to UWA to head up the IT Policy Unit and retired from this role in 2005. The Humanities also used the computers. E/Prof John Jory’s Latin Inscriptions Database was uploaded onto the PDP6. The library put their catalogue online and added a circulation system which eventually replaced LOANLY. The library is now the information hub of the university. 30:05 UWA administration began to use computers early on to handle student information and finances. A project in the UK (Project MAC) tried to develop a shared university system but it did not work. A similar project in Australia CASMAC also ended in disaster. The Queensland Government advocated a shared service through their governmental agencies about 10 years ago but it also collapsed. 35:14 At the end of 1989, Alex was asked to speak about WARCC to the Parliamentary Public Accounts and Expenditure Review Committee. The model was commended but it wasn’t taken up. Alex later contributed a chapter in a book on Computer Excellence on this topic. 36:21 UWA is no longer the leading light in the computer field in WA. Now everybody uses computers. There were a few staff at UWA who refused to use computers but most took to them. Students today must be computer savvy. A lot of resources are online and computers are part of the teaching process. MOOC (Massive Online Open Courses) is a case in point. 41:30 In 1976, the Australian National Computer Conference was held in Perth. Don Bitzer spoke at the conference and demonstrated a system called PLATO. The system had touch sensitive terminals and graphic displays and was designed to be a teaching tool and compliment a particular course. The US Army used the program for their training. Alex visited the USA in 1982 and advocated the purchase of PLATO. They ran PLATO at UWA from 1985-1989 on a cyber- computer and it was very popular but by1989 it was not cost effective. Today e-learning programs such as Blackboard and Moodle are used which are more or less the same as PLATO. 46:02 The WRE moved to Control Data computers after Alex left. He is not sure if they ever used computers for teaching. When the PLATO service closed at UWA a new company Computer Aided Learning Service (CALS) was set up by Richard Twiss. The Defence Force was a client. 48:42 Students in the Computer Science and Software Engineering at UWA learn to program a computer. Prof Jeff Roehl advocated the Pascal computer language. Fortran was the predominant language in the early days and is still used for scientific computing but it was easy to make mistakes in the programming. Yianni Attikiouzel in Electrical Engineering also taught the Pascal program to his students. Engineering students build their own computers. Alex’s son developed a program when he was 12 years old and later re wrote it in BASIC. There are many different types of computer languages. COBOL is used for business processing. Other languages are C+ and C++ . Different languages are developed to assist with different needs. HTML (Hyper Text Mark Up Language) is used for websites. 54:04 Alex retired from UWA in 2004. He is Honorary Professional Fellow and lectures on ethics in computing. He does consulting work primarily for AARNet (Australia’s Academic and Research Network) and helped set up the Australian Access Federation which helps researchers to use resources in other facilities. He also works on how to support researchers in e-research such as SKA - the Square Kilometre Array, a global next-generation radio telescope project involving institutions from over 20 countries. 59:42 Computer ethics is taught using case studies. CLOUD computing poses very particular ethics. What happens when robots malfunction? In the future, there is a feeling that computers will be able to far surpass the abilities of the human brain. We may be too dependent on them even now as they are used in surgery and 3-D printing for burns victims. 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Title A name given to the resource T Alex Reid interview, 22 July 2014 and 29 July 2014 Subject The topic of the resource Computer Science and Software Engineering Description An account of the resource Thomas Alexander Reid was born in Nottingham. The family migrated to Perth when he was 14 years old. He attended John Curtin High School. He did a degree in maths and applied maths at UWA. During Alex’s second year at UWA he took a cadetship with the Department of Supply and went to work at the Weapons Research Establishment (WRE) in Adelaide in the vacations. WRE were tracking rockets and using complicated mathematics for computing their trajectory. In March 1969, Alex came to work as a programmer at the Computing Centre at UWA. Within about 18 months, Alex was promoted to Applications Manager, Assistant Director and later he became Director. He remained in this position until 1991. One of Reid’s big projects was LOANLY – an automated loan system for the Reid Library. This was the first self service automation system installed in a library world-wide. He gave lectures on LOANLY throughout Australia and in Britain. A paper on the project was submitted to the Australian Computer Society for the Case Study Prize and won the prize in 1978. Alex retired from UWA in 2004. He is Honorary Professional Fellow and lectures on ethics in computing. He does consulting work primarily for AARNet (Australia’s Academic and Research Network) and helped set up the Australian Access Federation which helps researchers to use resources in other facilities. He also works on how to support researchers in e-research such as SKA - the Square Kilometre Array, a global next-generation radio telescope project involving institutions from over 20 countries. 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Title A name given to the resource UWA ORAL HISTORIES Description An account of the resource A collection of interviews with former UWA staff, recorded by the <a href="http://www.alumni.uwa.edu.au/community/historical-society" target="_blank">UWA Historical Society</a> to mark the Centenary of the University in 2013. <br />The UWA Historical Society’s <a href="http://www.alumni.uwa.edu.au/community/historical-society/oral-histories" target="_blank">Oral History Program</a> started as a project with four oral histories funded from Society resources. It was then expanded with support from every Faculty on campus, the Guild, Convocation and through private donations. Additional funding was received through a Heritage Grant. Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available University of Western Australia Historical Society Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource University of Western Australia Historical Society Oral History A resource containing historical information obtained in interviews with persons having firsthand knowledge. Interviewer The person(s) performing the interview Julia Wallis Interviewee The person(s) being interviewed David Robinson Location The location of the interview Claremont, W.A. Duration Length of time involved (seconds, minutes, hours, days, class periods, etc.) Interview 1: 1 hour, 3 minutes, 52 seconds Interview 2: 1 hour, 34 seconds Interview 3: 52 minutes, 14 seconds Total: 2 hours, 56 minutes, 40 seconds Bit Rate/Frequency Rate at which bits are transferred (i.e. 96 kbit/s would be FM quality audio) 128 kbs Time Summary A summary of an interview given for different time stamps throughout the interview Interview 1: Wednesday 7 May 2014 Track 1 00:00 Introduction by Julia Wallis 00:53 Track 2 00:00 David Andrew Robinson was born in Mildura, Victoria in 1926. In between going to school in Mildura, he had lived for 10 years in Yallourn, Gippsland. Dave’s father was a builder and his mother was a tailoress in Scotland. She migrated to Victoria in 1922. Dave’s father had fought in WW1. At aged 74 he enlisted to fight in WW2 and was injured. He died of blood poisoning as a result of injuries he received. Dave’s mother was a staunch Presbyterian and he attended church with her. Dave’s father was a Methodist but became disillusioned with the church. Dave left school at the end of Year 10 and worked. During the Second World War he joined the RAAF having been in the Air Cadets. When the war in Europe ended he transferred to the army and worked as a navigator on an army boat. He left the army in 1946 and was eligible for a government grant for education. He returned to Mildura High School and got his adult matriculation. He then attended Melbourne University and did an arts degree. By this time he had been accepted as a possible candidate for the Presbyterian Ministry and lived at Ormond College as a student for the Ministry. He finished the arts degree and left to work for a while. Later he returned to Melbourne University and did another degree. He married Lucie and in 1956 was appointed to Pinnaroo situated in Murrayville Parish (on the Mallee in Victoria). They stayed here for 4 years and then returned to Melbourne. In Melbourne, Dave became Secretary of the Victorian Council of Churches. 05:08 In 1962, he decided to look for something different and was appointed to the Parish of Elizabeth, north of Adelaide where they stayed for 8 years. Elizabeth was a hard place to live and was full of migrants from the UK attracted to the Holden factory. Dave and a couple of other ministers started the Elizabeth Counselling Centre dispensing advice including financial advice. As a result of the counselling services Dave applied for a scholarship and was accepted to Princeton University in New Jersey where he did a Masters’ degree in pastoral counselling. By this time, they had 4 children and so although he could have stayed on in the USA, the family wanted to return to Australia and in any case Dave was still officially attached to the Parish in Elizabeth. It was non directive counselling and involved going to lectures and working in a mental hospital and visiting a place that rehabilitated drug addicts and the like. When Dave returned to Elizabeth he ran courses for people in the Counselling Centre. Not long after his return the Government decided that they would pay for a full-time director who had to be a qualified social worker. This set him free to consider other possibilities. He saw an advertisement in the Adelaide Advertiser for a Principal for a college in Western Australia that was not yet built. He wrote and expressed his interest in the position. 09:36 To his surprise he was telephoned and asked to come to Perth with his wife flying first class. About 80 people had applied from all over Australia and overseas. Stanley Prescott, the Vice Chancellor at UWA at the time was on the Committee and Dave had had a run-in with him when he was Master of Ormond College. He was offered the position but couldn’t decide. He returned to Elizabeth and was dithering for a couple of months before deciding to accept. The children were not happy about this decision as they did not want to leave their friends. They drove over with their dog and four children. It was a big adventure. Sir Ronald Wilson was on the committee who Dave had had contact with before and he thinks that Ron tipped the balance. The Committee wanted to know his experience and educational background but did not ask much more than that. Dave was introduced to the Committee individually rather than collectively and does not remember a panel interview with a high powered selection committee. 14:47 The family arrived in September 1970. It seemed a long way from Adelaide. The house that should have been built for the Master was not ready but they were accommodated in a house in Tyrell Street, Nedlands. The older boy attended Hollywood High School and the younger ones Nedlands Primary School. Dave’s duties were to ‘manage’ the college. This included managing the completion of the project in time to admit their first residential students in February 1971. He had to supervise the building project and purchase bedding, furniture and furnishing and develop the grounds. Marion Blackwell was the landscape architect. They built a squash court in conjunction with St Catherine’s College but Dave was unwilling to replicate sporting facilities that were already on the UWA campus such as tennis courts. There was a question of cost overrun with the architects but Dave was fortunate that there were people on the committee who had expertise in this area, such as John Rawlinson who was a quantity surveyor. Other people on the Council were lawyers. There were 12 people on the Provisional Council who are now all deceased. Dave had to meet with them regularly before the opening of the college. After the college was opened, he met monthly with them. The Council determined policy but they would not interfere with the management. For example, they determined the percentage of overseas students to be accommodated. 23:47 In the sixties, when the college was planned, it had been thought that it would be male only. This decision was reversed very quickly. At that time, St Catherine’s was women only. This has recently changed. Kingswood, St Thomas Moore and St George’s were all men. Currie Hall (now University Hall) was mixed. These are all co-ed now but it was a new thing in the 1970s. The Principal of Kingswood was very against co-ed and felt that the students were more interested in co-habitation. Many students moved from Kingswood to St Columba in the early years. Kingswood was a Methodist college and did not tolerate alcohol. St Columba encouraged their residents to drink responsibly and not get drunk. Dave met the other college principals from UWA colleges. He also attended the national conference in Queensland in the first year he was Master to get ideas. In 1977, the Council paid for Dave and Lucie to go and look at colleges all around the world. He was awarded 3 months leave every 7 years but the job demands were 24/7 during term time. 27:47 The college was named Saint Columba after an Irish priest scholar who brought Christianity to Scotland. Dave had no part in the naming of the college but he did have input into the naming of the wings which were named after places that St Columba had been – Iona, Durrow and Derry. In the foyer was a piece of rock from Iona Abbey that had been acquired by one of their members and brought back from Scotland. The college was a joint foundation of the Presbyterian and Congregational Churches. Trinity Church in Perth was a major benefactor. The colleges were not funded by UWA – they merely made the land available as a gift. When St Columba built a library to house theological books for their theology students some people objected to it. Dave and Ron Wilson went to see the then Vice Chancellor and Ron Wilson said that if St Columba could not have their library then Sir Thomas Moore College should not have a parish church on their grounds. The objection miraculously disappeared! Founding of colleges separate from the universities is a tradition going back to Oxford and Cambridge. Nowadays the Federal Government is giving money to the university colleges to enable them to increase their accommodation. Trinity did not accept the offer but University Hall has almost doubled in size. UWA is quite concerned about student accommodation in the area. 3-4,000 students are resident in UWA university colleges. St Catherine’s college is rebuilding at the back to house extra students (including males). The university had a member of the Council of St Columba but that was the only connection. They had no power over the Council or over the Principal of the College. People from the university were invited to speak to the students and/or come for a meal. Many of the tutoring staff was involved at UWA. 34:07 If there was any shortfall in funding, it fell to the college to deal with it. At one stage that had to install fire alarms throughout the college. Luckily, St Columba was never short of money. By the end of the third year, Dave was investing their free money in funds at 17% interest in order to build up their reserves. When he left in 1985, the college would have had about $2 million in the bank. One of the members of the Council was Sir Cyril Bird from Bird & Son accountants. He told Dave he had to take into account future earnings and expenditure in his budgeting. Dave bought a computer so that he could do this work. They had a Bursar who kept the books and kept track on fee payments. The administration staff comprised 3 people – Dave, the Bursar and an office worker. There was also domestic staff, catering staff and a groundsman. Dave used to save money by doing DIY on electrical work and plumbing. He enjoyed the practical work. The students paid $25 a week for their accommodation and three meals in 1971. The college was used in vacation time which also provided them with extra revenue. College fees are now about $16,000 a year. The facilities in colleges now are akin to a 5 star hotel! Every room has its own telephone and refrigerator. In Dave’s time, they merely had tea rooms on each floor. Argyle Wing was opened in 1974, there were self-catering facilities included. Students did not have to pay as much if they cooked their own meals. However, there was no system in place to stop them using the dining room. It was an honour system. Another block was built at the back of the college for visitors. It contained four flats and was another revenue raising exercise. 41:06 Each wing had a place where people could put their own food. The students had an input into how the college was run via the college forum. They would make recommendations to the Council. There were also student reps on the Council. The Council set the policy but the everyday rules were left to the Principal. In those days it was quite easy to get into the college. Today the property is fenced off and you require a code to access the security door. The students had keys to their rooms but not to the front door. There were thefts in Dave’s day as well. Bicycles in particular were always being stolen. The college had a general insurance policy to cover fire, theft and storm damage. In the 1970s, people didn’t worry about having their doors locked. 44:46 There was an initiation incident at St George’s College where a student died from pneumonia from being pushed into the pool. Another time, the girls from St Catherine’s blew up the pool at St George’s College. Dave decided that these would be banned at St Columba College. St Columba had a welcoming night which was an information evening with a BBQ and the new students were matched up with a ‘buddy’ from among the resident students. He did not tolerate bullying or racism. Generally residents who had come from single sex private schools had the most difficulty in fitting into college life and were also more likely to form cliques. Some Australian students were unpleasant towards Asian students but this was by and large quite rare. The first college President, Mr Melville George, was African. 50:14 As well as the socialisation, the students had to learn the practicalities of living away from home. There was a laundry with a bank of washing machines they used 20 cent pieces. All the rooms had balconies. The bedrooms were quite large and contained built in wardrobes, a desk, a chair and book cases. The builders designed the bedrooms to be cell like and encourage study in contrast to the public areas like the dining room which were very open. Dave had no input into the design because two of the blocks were completed when he arrived. The dining room had a gallery upstairs like a medieval banqueting hall. They often had entertainment during the meal. This was apart from when they had dances. 54:14 It was decided quite early on by the students that gowns need not be worn to meals. The people on the Council used the Oxbridge model for how the college functioned. Dave considers St Columba to be better than this especially as they used round tables in the dining room and not long refectory tables. There was a formal meal 4 nights a week. This was gradually reduced to 3 times a week and later to once a week. A formal meal required that all the students attend at the one time, grace would be said and a group would be invited to have a sherry before the meal. There would usually be a speaker. One time an American psychologist addressed the students and said she thought the food was terrible. Dave realised afterwards that this was one of the medical students dressed up as a woman! It was good hearted fun. Dave did not have to eat with the students every night and he had a deputy who could stand in for him in any event. 58:26 There were very few expectations placed on Dave. Some of the staff expected him to intervene and chastise the students especially in cases where students were sleeping with each other. One time a farmer caused a fuss because his daughter’s bedroom was next to the tutor’s room which was joined by a balcony. There were letters in the newspaper about standards when it was realised that the college was going to be co-ed. The students were told to be careful of forming exclusive relationships when college should be a time to make many friends. Dave officiated at lots of college weddings which took place after they had left college apart from cases where the girl got pregnant. The college did not provide sex education but they did have speakers who talked about relationships. 1:02:59 Interview 2: Wednesday 14 May 2014 Track 1 00:00 Introduction by Julia Wallis 00:34 Track 2 00:00 The Lodge was late being completed as the foundations had to be raised. The family did not move in until Christmas Day but there was no power and they had to run a power cord into the college. They remained in the lodge until the appointment of a Deputy in 1974. The Deputy Principal, Reverend Ken Melville, moved into the old lodge and Dave and his family moved into the new lodge that was built alongside. There was plenty of room. Students sometimes stayed there. It had 5 bedrooms as each of their four children (John, Annette, Margaret and Andrew) had their own rooms. There was a bathroom upstairs and a bathroom downstairs and a study so it was a substantial house. The dog, Sandy, came too and would beg for scraps from the college kitchen and attend lectures with Dave’s wife, Lucie, on campus at UWA! The Deputy Principal brought their dog across from Melbourne with his family. He was an Irish setter and one day came straight through Dave’s fly wire door. 03:25 The Deputy Principal was part-time and taught at Scotch College. He provided back up if Dave had to leave the premises. Running the college was a 24 hour day, 7 day a week job. A member of staff was rostered on at night in case something happened. Nowadays all of the colleges employ security officers to protect the students and the property. Sometimes things were stolen, such as arm chairs. Bicycles were always being stolen, sometimes en masse, necessitating the erection of a bike shed. 06:20 Initially the site consisted of an admin block leading the dining room and 3 wings, Iona, Durrow and Derry, which were L-shaped residential wings catering for 120-130 students and staff. In 1974, Argyle Wing was built as well as a tutorial room and library. Initially the site was fairly bare. It was close to Kings Park but not adjacent to it. 08:29 Tutors were employed to give the students extra tuition. There were senior tutors female and male plus others who were studying for PhDs. One was a registrar at St Charles Gairdner Hospital. This was quite an incentive and was based on the Oxbridge system. They also exercised a disciplinary role being resident. A tutor was on duty every night on a roster system in case of any other problems. They assisted to integrate students in the transition stage from school to university. The university drop-out rate for students in first year was about 30%. Anybody could apply to do medicine. It wasn’t as competitive to get into courses. Some students from Curtin were also accommodated – perhaps 6 over the time Dave was there. The college was there to meet students’ needs. They did not discriminate between ECU and UWA. Most of the tutors were connected to UWA. Some of the tutors were mature aged. There would be staff meetings every week of the tutors with Dave. Sometimes they shared tutors with Kingswood College and St Catherine’s. There was a Heads of College Association. 19:08 Parents would be more inclined to pay the fees if they thought the college employed good tutors. Parents also got some comfort from the fact that the students were “looked after” in college. The Principal would assist if the students had a car accident or a medical condition. Some of the residents were younger than 18 and they had to ensure that they weren’t drinking alcohol. Dave’s wife, Lucie, did not intrude into the working life of the college as she was teaching full-time but she did help out where necessary. For some time they had a Japanese girl staying with them while she waiting for a place in college but didn’t want to move out. They also took care of a boy who was sick rather than have him isolated in his room in college. Every week, batches of 6 students would come over for coffee with the family. Dave wanted to create a community atmosphere. This was obviously successful as students from other colleges wanted to jump ship and change over into St Columba. It had a reputation as being a friendly and egalitarian. 27:52 It was important that the students knuckle down and pass their exams when they got into college. They had to apply in writing and an interview. The whole of January was spent interviewing people. Dave wanted to know the needs basis – i.e. why they were applying to come into college. They decided to take a proportion of overseas students. They then wanted to refer their friends. It was often a case of first in, best dressed. Dave did all the interviewing himself. This is now a full-time job at colleges. Dave felt that it was important to know all the students. Very few people had to be asked to leave but there was one occasion when a girl was asked to leave college as she was causing problems amongst the other residents. If they failed their exams they were not normally allowed back into college. Dave often intervened to help the students rather like a father figure and tried to accommodate difficult situations. 37:10 Students could get a Commonwealth scholarship if they were doing some work. Some of the students found work in the college helping in the kitchen or the garden but they weren’t being paid the full wage as they were only working part-time. In some colleges it was compulsory to do a couple of hours work around the college. On returning to college, you got points for passing exams. You also got points for seniority. This enabled some second and third year students to get priority and request their own rooms. Some students helped the college community by working for the College Club. The students paid money into the club and the club arranged dances and sporting events. Some of them represented the students on the College Council. Some of them got together and went on vacation together. Many of them formed alliances and relationships. 44:14 The cleaners cleaned the rooms but did not make the beds. One cleaning person worked on each wing and they were supervised. They related very well to the students. The staff stayed a long time. One lady employed in the dining room was employed in 1971 and only left in 2013! There was only one gardener/handyman so Dave helped out and cut the grass on weekends. One supervisor was asked to leave the college. Luckily this took place while Dave was on holiday overseas as it caused some bad feeling in the college. She played favourites, bribed students and went around telling tales about students. The college was a family or a tight knit community but this meant that relationships were very intense and problems could be caused when things went wrong. One father thought his daughter was having too good a time and blamed the college for the fact that she was not studying very hard. 49:12 Some of the students were mature aged. One was aged 30 and had been a nurse. Another one lived there for 8 years while she completed her Masters. She was in a wheel chair. She was 40 years old and was a good role model. She danced in her wheel chair. They built a ramp up to one of the two roomed flats. Others were semi-handicapped. One had brittle bone condition. He can’t remember any who were vision impaired. At this stage a doctor was appointed to the university and he had an office at the university. He would make house calls very promptly. There was a Counselling Centre at the University and they could refer people here. Some students were referred here when they were concerned about exams. The college had a very good relationship with the university. People came to the college to give talks and vice versa. Dave gave a talk to some engineering students about homosexuality. One of the St Columba tutors was homosexual but never caused any problems at the college. Sexual matters were not the main topic at Dave’s Human Relations discussion groups but poor self-image would come up time and time again. A speaker came in to talk about sexuality so Dave did not have to deal with that. One girl brought a double bed into the room because she thought the college wouldn’t mind! Another wanted a water bed! Dave considered these to be try-ons. The only issues tackled at the College Council tended to be food, heating, facilities and computers rather than relationships. 60:00 Interview 3: Wednesday 21 May 2014 Track 1 00:00 Introduction by Julia Wallis 00:32 Track 2 00:00 The college motto and the college crest. It was finally decided that the college crest would be a dove rising from the foot of a Celtic cross. This design was submitted by Mr Ray Montgomery. A motto was never eventually decided upon despite a competition. 02:00 In April 1972, Dave visited Melbourne in order to investigate new developments in student housing. There was a move to make Argyle Wing a little bit different and allow students to self-cater. However, there were no disabled facilities built into Argyle. In 1977, Dave took some long service leave. He was entitled to this every 7 years. He told the College Council that he would like to look at what was happening around the world with colleges. They approved a round the world air fare for himself and Lucie for them to do this. They were away for about 5 months and started off in New Zealand, then the USA and Europe. Dave thought that the colleges in Perth were much more advanced. Some of the colleges were very austere. In one college in Sydney the behaviour was very bad and students had food fights in the dining room and dumped Freshers 150 km from Sydney to find their own way back. 06:40 Students were encouraged to do activities particularly sport. There was an inter college sporting competition, the Nicholson Cup that St Columba joined in 1972 provided that the female students were allowed to participate. The girls did very well and beat the men in some sports, particularly athletics. They took part in PROSH but not as a college activity. There were discussion groups. There was a college forum. They organised dances. There was a Valedictory and a college club dinner. At the end of the year dinner Dave introduced a system of prizes for those who had taken some major role in college life. The students also had their own prize competition. In 1976, Dave was given a surprise birthday lunch and awarded with a suitcase in the form of an aeroplane for his 50th birthday. St. Columba won the cricket a few times. Dave played his last game of Aussie Rules football the day he had a heart attack. The students also played soccer, tennis, volleyball, squash, hockey, athletics and basketball. They didn’t take part in rowing. The mix of males and females in college didn’t cause any issues apart from when relationships broke down. A girl was attacked and raped in St Catherine’s College but there were no incidents of which Dave was aware at St Columba. 12:56 The Vietnam War caused a fair bit of angst. One male student protested against conscription by planning a bomb in the National Services office in the city. He was later arrested. Another male student streaked down the Hay Street Mall one evening. He was kicked out of his university course because he had done a number of silly things. The students took part in protests. The Vietnam War ended in 1975. Dave was a chaplain in the RAAF and did not take part in any protest marches. 16:49 The students did do some charity work but Dave cannot recall what they were. Church services were held in the college. People were married and baptised in the college chapel. There was no compulsion to attend church and you did not have to be Anglican to attend St. Columba. Michael and John Chaney came from a very strong Catholic family but they attended St Columba. They were also very few dietary issues although people sometimes objected to the dining habits of others. 23:00 St Columba has carried on a family tradition in many cases with parents sending their children there. People with a family connection probably have a greater priority in attending Trinity (as St Columba is now called). Some stayed for 6 years while doing a medical degree. Kingswood, St Columba and Catherine’s were on one side of the road and then Currie Hall (now known as University Hall), St Thomas Moore and St George’s were on the other side of the road. There was competition between the colleges but it did not get serious. Many of the students had friends in different colleges and some would come for events. Other times they would gate crash events such as the welcome bbq! One night a group of students from Kingswood streaked through St Columba dining room. Another time a mini car had been parked in the dining room. 27:58 Many of the students had motor cars. There was a car park built at the back of the college. Some from farming areas had cars from an early age. Many of the private school students also had cars – it was prestigious to have a car. 70% of the students had cars. 29:35 In July 1976, Dave had a surprise birthday lunch and the students made him a suitcase in the shape of an aeroplane. It was for his 50th birthday and he had just got his flying lunch. 30:16 In 1978, St Columba accepted responsibility for the running of International Students House in Nedlands as an annexe to the college. These students participated in tutorials and came for meals at the college and the people who had been running the college came in as tutors. St Columba also had a number of non-resident students who paid a fee to attend meals and tutorials. Sometimes there would be up to 20 students who were non-residents. People could come across to college and buy a meal. 33:26 As well as running the college and working in the office, Dave had to be available for pastoral care. Students would call into the office in the mornings before lectures or in the late afternoon after lectures. It was all pretty informal and they did not have to make an appointment. Sometimes it would be advice. Other times it was physical sickness or accidents. Dave had a heart attack on 9 June 1980 (according to Dove Rising at page 82). Dave left St. Columba in early 1985. One student killed a girl from MLC when he had an accident in his mother’s car in Kings Park. Another student committed suicide in Bali. Drug taking apart from smoking Marijuana, there weren’t any particular drug problems. 42:35 The highlights of Dave’s time at St. Columba were the family feel of college – getting to know people and becoming involved in their lives. It was stimulating being surrounded by young people. The downside was the demands of supervising that family and in particular, the grief Dave experienced when the residents left the college. He enjoyed his 14 years at the college. The College Council were very supportive. Trinity has doubled in size. It has about 10 staff responsible for admissions, pastoral care, the buildings, finance, etc. It is much more upmarket now. The student body chose the name. The college motto is Friendship Learning Growth. Their academic results are very good. There is even a Robinson Scholarship. It was a privilege for Dave to become involved in getting something off the ground. He put his stamp on the place by establishing a community. It is not just a boarding house. Trinity has no Alumni as far as he knows. 51:42 Audio Files Links to audio files <a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/d2bf9f26b7e961a7cf4bde22df697153.mp3">Robinson_David, Interview 1, Track 1</a> <br /><a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/5f06c328ca9b789fe6c7ebeff2474de6.mp3">Robinson_David, Interview 1, Track 2</a> <br /><a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/cfaea827d2275f37a46e393d8ad8e2b1.mp3">Robinson_David, Interview 2, Track 1</a> <br /><a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/e4435e5f35f178977f0c4a2c522b29ed.mp3">Robinson_David, Interview 2, Track 2</a> <br /><a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/4a400d384ae1a0b507fce50898708d4a.mp3">Robinson_David, Interview 3, Track 1</a> <br /><a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/c520f41fd21b82733ffa09f9cf33251d.mp3">Robinson_David, Interview 3, Track 2</a> Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. 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For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource UWA ORAL HISTORIES Description An account of the resource A collection of interviews with former UWA staff, recorded by the <a href="http://www.alumni.uwa.edu.au/community/historical-society" target="_blank">UWA Historical Society</a> to mark the Centenary of the University in 2013. <br />The UWA Historical Society’s <a href="http://www.alumni.uwa.edu.au/community/historical-society/oral-histories" target="_blank">Oral History Program</a> started as a project with four oral histories funded from Society resources. It was then expanded with support from every Faculty on campus, the Guild, Convocation and through private donations. Additional funding was received through a Heritage Grant. 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Interviewer The person(s) performing the interview Julia Wallis Interviewee The person(s) being interviewed Ian Robinson Location The location of the interview University of Western Australia and Karawara, WA Duration Length of time involved (seconds, minutes, hours, days, class periods, etc.) Interview 1: 1 hour, 3 minutes, 18 seconds Interview 2:1 hour 22 minutes, 3 seconds Total: 2 hours, 25 minutes, 21 seconds Bit Rate/Frequency Rate at which bits are transferred (i.e. 96 kbit/s would be FM quality audio) 128 kbs Time Summary A summary of an interview given for different time stamps throughout the interview Interview 1 Track 1 00:00 Introduction by Julia Wallis 00:38 Track 2 00:00 Ian was born in West Midland, WA. His parents were of UK origin. His father’s side of the family farmed at Brookton. Ian’s father was very community minded and loved camping in the bush. He encouraged his children to progress. Ian enrolled in biomedical sciences at UWA but quit half way through and worked. He studied Philosophy part-time. 06:12 Ian enjoyed UWA – the sport and the social life and he joined the Evangelical Union. He loved learning but felt that the teaching could have been improved. He saw his future wife to be, Margaret, on his first day, going into the Octagon Theatre. He was at UWA from 1970 to 1975. He studied part-time in 1973 and qualified with a BA which included science units and English and Philosophy. Ian felt more suited to the Arts. In High School he was directed towards science and feels that it was more highly regarded. 12:34 The teaching between the science faculty and the arts faculty was very different. Ian worked as a clerk for the first half of his BA and then had saved enough money to study full-time. He had no idea what he wanted to do when he qualified. He had been a youth worker part-time in 1975 and got a job in Personnel (now known as Human Relations). He detested this job and felt that the work in no way tried to assist the well-being of the workers. 19:02 Ian’s next job was in IT which was interesting and creative. He wrote small programmes and witnessed the effect of computers on the workplace. Ian and a colleague wrote the first programme in Western Australia on MS DOS. The thinking training he had learned at UWA (particularly in Philosophy) helped in this role. He left this job to study Theology. 22:19 Ian had become a Christian in High School. His family were not religious. He had been Vice President of the Christian Union at UWA. He was dismayed that you were expected to be an atheist if you were a scientist or a philosopher. He had an epiphany while reading the bible at home one day and decided to enter the church. He went through a selection process to be accepted. He refused to attend the Theological College in Sydney. He wanted to go to a college overseas for perspective but it had to be a place with heart, a strong intellectual base and that taught the history of religion. In addition, he wanted some practical ministerial work. Ian studied at Wycliffe Hall, Oxford. He gained a Masters’ degree at Oxford. 31:00 He was at Oxford for three years and he and Margaret stayed in a little flat near the college. At the time, Oxford, along with Manchester University, was pioneering the use of computers to analyse biblical text. Ian enrolled in this course as well as a course in biblical archaeology at the Ashmolean Museum. He spent a summer in Israel. The course surpassed his expectations and he had to work extremely hard. It was a stimulating environment. The teaching staff was generally excellent but he was not so impressed with Maurice Frank Wiles the Regius Professor of Divinity. The range of students was broad in terms of age and origin. 36:42 The practical work involved helping to run a youth group in a village outside Oxford. In his second year, he visited a juvenille detention centre. Ian found some people were dismissive of people from the colonies. Margaret was working part-time and they lived off their savings and Margaret’s wages. She came to college for the evening meals. They made many lifelong friends here and enjoyed the theatre and trips into the countryside. 43:13 Ian was offered a job in Israel but returned to Australia at the end of 1980. He got a job at a Presbyterian Ministry working in a new public housing estate at Karawara (next to Curtin University). It had the highest density in the Perth metro. People accepted Ian but thought he knew nothing about life! He listened to them but didn’t try to change them. They did not have an actual church building. The church provided food parcels. This turned into Southcare and Second Harvest . The bulk of the refugees resident on the estate were from Chile. They worshipped at the Catholic Church. Aboriginal people had their own church too. 53:58 As a result of these experiences, Ian ran a Churches Among the Poor course which led to the formation of the WA Urban Mission Network which included 20 different churches. The churches among the poor called themselves CHAMP and used Wonder Woman as their symbol. There were very few female ministers. The Anglican Church did not have women ministers at this time. 57:33 Religious integrity must transcend church politics and traditions. The outreach is more important to Ian than the church structures. The churches are united in helping refugees and other groups and co-operate on projects. The Uniting Church led the Stolen Generation project. The Anglicans are good at housing, welfare and government policy as are the Catholics. The Pentecostal churches, Churches of Christ and Baptist Church connect better with the youth through music and sport. 62:40 Interview 2 Track 1 00:00 Introduction by Julia Wallis 00:34 Track 2 00:00 Started work as Uniting Chaplain at UWA on 1 May 2008. Trinity College at UWA was founded by the Uniting Church but is strictly secular. Ian works part-time. The Catholic chaplain, Father Armando Carandang, has recently retired. Rev Michael Wood is the Anglican chaplain. A Muslim chaplain, Sheikh Yahya Adel Ibrahim, has recently been appointed. UWA requires that the chaplains must have experience in pastoral care and able to work in an academic environment. This means that there is necessarily a generation gap. The chaplain must be appointed by their denomination but is expected to assist people across all faiths in the university. The majority of people who seek support are older students and staff. The church sees it as an opportunity to connect with the future leaders. In NSW and the ACT the Uniting Church has a more conspicuous presence on campus – often based in the colleges or housing. 06:44 The chaplains work in the Law Link Building. It is Ian’s 4th or 5th office in six years. Ian runs a website called Spiritual Life and the contact details for the chaplains are on the website. Chaplains network and attend events at UWA. Fifty years ago, they were more visible. The best office location for drop-ins was next to Student Services. The least number of drop-ins were when the office was located in the Guild building. Once Ian had a red café type tent that he would move around campus to be more visible. 12:06 People who seek Ian out talk mostly about health and relationship issues. The conversation is confidential and is not reported back to any authority. Many seek help with mentoring or starting NGO’s in the community. Some people are so intelligent that they cannot relate to others. Religious students report that some academics heap scorn on their particular religion. 18:08 There are several student religious support groups. The groups do not interact much with the chaplains. Several of the groups appear to be controlled by adults. The chaplains have a good working relationship and are mutually supportive. They have tried to get a Jewish chaplain appointed. They are all part-time because they have other responsibilities. UWA does not pay for any of the chaplains – they are paid by the churches. UWA provides office space and support. Sheikh Yahya Adel Ibrahim also works at Curtin University for a couple of days per week. 26:06 The only marketing is through the website which Ian runs. Each chaplain has their own page and links. Ian also runs a website that links into information on all sorts of information on religions. They have talked about doing more inter-faith events. They have also supported courses particularly those led by Professor Debra McDougall from Anthropology and Sociology. They need more funds to put on more of these. Ian wonders how you reach people who are not open to ideas. 32:54 The chaplains are not routinely consulted in times of incident such as September 11 (2001), the Bali Bombings (2002) and MH17 (2014). An academic suggested that the chaplains mark MH17 in some way to give people an outlet for their grief. Two people on the flight were coming to UWA and were to be residents of Trinity College. 35:55 Ian would like UWA to involve chaplains in pastoral care at all the university colleges. Also, it would be good to be funded so the chaplains could act quickly to support the students in whatever way they might feel would assist at the time. 39:33 Ian reports back to his manager at the Uniting Church but does not report back officially to UWA. Ian organised for a survey to ascertain the effectiveness of his chaplaincy. The online world has created its own unique challenges and problems. Ian has a Facebook and Twitter account but he needs champions among the students to spread the word. He also runs some Blog sites. The School for Indigenous Studies represents Aboriginal spiritual needs on campus. 47:46 Staff student ratios and relationships between staff and between staff and students have changed. Tuition fees have increased. Student friendships are different due to social media. Online learning means students spend less time on campus. There have always been global challenges. When Ian was a student there were concerns about the possibility of a nuclear war. Today’s media is more sensational and alarmist. Students are more cynical about information disseminated through the media. The Education Bill went through Parliament on 28 August 2014 but there were no protests. 54:56 The Anglican chaplain organises a day retreat for staff. He and Ian have worked together to take students on desert retreats but these are expensive. Ian takes adults on Spirit Journeys in the Deserts. It is not specifically for UWA but some academic staff has participated. A maximum of 16 people can attend. People enjoy the experience of community. It is non-religious and non-judgmental. Aboriginal people have also taken the trip. For most people it is a transformative experience and one that is very personal. The risks are managed by the leaders. 01:10:25 Ian does leadership training in community engagement with Christian people and churches. He is engaged in helping the church to move forward. He is highly involved with the Stolen Generations. Ian also works with Reconciliation WA which has recently been re-established. 01:19:19 Ian is very happy with his life and what he has achieved and would not change anything. 01:21:24 Audio Files Links to audio files <a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/86abb5ac41eb5c02faa9a6e65c630713.mp3">Robinson_Ian, Interview 1, Track 1</a> <br /><a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/ea79d1bbe09b9da085a64246be6a75e8.mp3">Robinson_Ian, Interview 1, Track 2</a> <br /><a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/6e7a1ac0858cc9231780cd7645ae2eb2.mp3">Robinson_Ian, Interview 2, Track 1</a> <br /><a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/9093ec19a077c16c69b3f1472fb81cf5.mp3">Robinson_Ian, Interview 2, Track 2</a> <br /><a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/7326e7a45079f31a822fce13d7781dff.mp3">Robinson_Ian, Interview 2, Track 3</a> Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Ian Robinson interview, 21 August 2014 and 28 August 2014 Subject The topic of the resource Chaplaincy Description An account of the resource Ian Robinson has a passion to see people take a fresh look at Christian faith, walk the talk and connect deeply with God. He is known to be someone who gives honour to God. He has a capacity to identify the strengths in persons and programmes, think them through biblically, make them understandable to others, pass on the story and inspire action. He is also skilled in building networks and creativity in ministry. All these skills are made available to the church and community through the work of Tall Trees ReSource Inc. Makes You Wonder is only one of his passions. He has established several ministry groups – Southcare, Help Street Foundation, Spirit Journeys Australia, and the Australian Research Institute for Desert Spirituality. He has also authored/edited several manuals and books, including Praying the Gospel, Gossiping the Gospel, This Thirsty Heart, If Anyone Thirsts, New Beginnings, Stop Look and Listen, Streams in the Wasteland, Broke, and Growing an Everyday Faith.He has worked widely across Australia, New Zealand, several other nations and many language groups. As well as principal consultant for Tall Trees ReSource Inc, he is Uniting Chaplain at the University of Western Australia. He has held many ministry roles in church and community. He is at present co-convenor of Bringing Them Home Committee (WA) and was for eight years a member of the Uniting Church National Mission & Evangelism Network. Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource Robinson, Ian Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available University of Western Australia Historical Society Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource Copyright holder University of Western Australia Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource MP3 files Type The nature or genre of the resource Oral History Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource UWA ORAL HISTORIES Description An account of the resource A collection of interviews with former UWA staff, recorded by the <a href="http://www.alumni.uwa.edu.au/community/historical-society" target="_blank">UWA Historical Society</a> to mark the Centenary of the University in 2013. <br />The UWA Historical Society’s <a href="http://www.alumni.uwa.edu.au/community/historical-society/oral-histories" target="_blank">Oral History Program</a> started as a project with four oral histories funded from Society resources. It was then expanded with support from every Faculty on campus, the Guild, Convocation and through private donations. Additional funding was received through a Heritage Grant. Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available University of Western Australia Historical Society Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource University of Western Australia Historical Society Oral History A resource containing historical information obtained in interviews with persons having firsthand knowledge. Interviewer The person(s) performing the interview John Bannister Interviewee The person(s) being interviewed Alan Robson Duration Length of time involved (seconds, minutes, hours, days, class periods, etc.) Interview 1: 49 minutes, 5 seconds Interview 2: 53 minutes, 38 seconds Interview 3: 52 minutes, 10 seconds Total: 2 hours, 34 minutes, 53 seconds Bit Rate/Frequency Rate at which bits are transferred (i.e. 96 kbit/s would be FM quality audio) 128 kbs Time Summary A summary of an interview given for different time stamps throughout the interview Interview 1 00:00:00 Alan David Robson born in Melbourne 1945. Family background. Living in rural Victoria and Melbourne. University. Studying Agricultural Science. Scholarship to University of WA. Medic breeder. Reputation of WA. John Millington. A lot of people didn’t do a PhD. Scholarship, Agricultural Science, Millington 00:03:23 Intensions for PhD. Memories of the school of agriculture. Comparisons with Melbourne. Vibrant undergraduate research. Underwood, Moir, Millington , Quirk and Lonergan. Underwood, Moir, Millington , Quirk, Lonergan * 00:05:45 Memories of the arrival to Perth. Millington. Myer Street and the divide. Plots and paddocks in UWA. Zoology and Botany. The Munns Line. CSIRO on campus. Synergistic relationship and Agricultural department and WA Agricultural department and the university. CSIRO, Millington 00:8:30 Memories of UWA tea room. Comparisons to Melbourne and UWA. First impressions. The Tuart club. Underwood and Moir and Lonergan interact with the undergraduates. Young families and social functions. Supportive environment. Tuart Club, Moir, social functions 00:11:00 Huge laboratory of WA. Plots in Tammin* and other country locations. Camping and field work for PhD. Memories of Underwood was a giant. He could pick good people. Harry Wearing. Underwood was very interested. Harry Wearing, Underwood, field work 00:14:25 Memories of Reg Moir. The legend and a perfectionist. Writes some significant reviews. Ruminant nutrition. Underwood, Summers* and Moir were the three most important people in animal science. Underwood, Summers, Moir 00:16:35 Moir did not write much. Faculty was very coherent. Teaching while doing PhD. Playing squash with staff. Memories of David Lindsay. Head of reproductive program. Incredibly popular. Best after dinner speaker. Plays cricket. Moir, Lindsay 00:19:55 The farm tour and interactions between staff and students. social interaction and an interesting time in the faculty history. Memories of Millington. Significant discoveries with Cliff Frances and Gladstone. Lonergan and Gladstone. Farm Tour, Millington, Cliff Frances, Gladstone, Lonergan 00:22:27 Farming community appreciate the institute and Department of Agriculture. Trace elements a 20th century discovery. Receptive audience. Growers pay a levy on production. A farthing a bushel. Support of the government and farmers. Support, government, Department of Agriculture 00:25:00 Agricultural research strong at UWA was fostered by Underwood Lindsey Quirk, Jack Lonergan *. Strong relationships with community and graduate students. co-operative environment. PhD, why wont medics grow on acid soil. Millington and sandy soils in the Mediterranean vs WA. Island of Sardinia. Discovery and research. Gladstone and Lupin Lindsay and Reproduction of sheep. Moir and sheep feed. Underwood, Lindsey, Quirk, Jack Lonergan, Millington, Gladstone* 00:28:40 Cooperative research centre. Relationships and good will fostered by Underwood, Moir and Lindsay. Good conditions in 1966. Funding and buoyant agriculture. Downturn in 1969. Coming back in 1974. Geology was a popular faculty. Memories of Poseidon and Meckering earthquake. 00:31:25 Memories of Perth the city. Career could grow. Perth was an open community. Barriers to succeed. UWA and thoughts of career. Heavily connected to the agricultural community. Knowing farmers as a graduate student. Memories of Prescott. Arts festival and the summer school. 00:34:29 Eyes on the Agriculture Department. Strong schools at UWA. Agricultural was very important to the state. Best faculty of Australia in 89. Built up by good people. Things turn around when Underwood leaves. Strong schools, Underwood 00:36:54 CLIM and other research dry land and future farms. Collective is a feature. Memories of the head of the school Quirk giant intellect. Posner*, Alemore,* Parker. Memories of fierce seminars. Soil science was a lot stronger than other faculties. Story of Jim Quirk. A good sportsman. Roger swift has a distinguished career. Posner*, Alemore,* Parker, Jim Quirk, Roger swift 00:40:25 Everyone wears collar and ties. Interactions with one another. People would talk about work in the tea room. The Border Medal. Backward Push to Science award. People go to seminars. Social and intellectual interaction. Memories of the generalists at UWA. UWA and the generalist degrees. Cross pollination between departments. Social and intellectual interaction, Backward Push to Science award 00:44:39 Every school had its own library. Libraries are social places. The place was a lot smaller. UWA was the place. Loving the grounds of UWA. Good sense of UWA. University residences and interactions that result. Kim Cavanagh*. Playing squash. Fiona Stanley and the interactions. Staff students cricket match. Neville Stanley. Libraries are social places, Kim Cavanagh, Fiona Stanley, Neville Stanley 00:48:00 Wanting to make changes as Vice Chancellor. Reasons for building The Club. An interesting time. Changes, Vice Chancellor Interview 2 00:00:00 1969 leaving WA. Memories of the army. Benefits of the army. Hopeless soldier. Officer training. Leadership and keeping a balance. leadership 00:05:40 Post army life and career. Horsham research. Victoria Wheat Research institute Advertised Professor in Plant Nutrition at UWA. Quirk and Lonergan foundation Prof at Murdoch*. Appointed with no interview. Arriving in Perth in 1974. Memories of the Tuart Club. Professor in Plant Nutrition, Quirk, Lonergan 00:08:25 Buying a house in Scarborough. No training in lecturing. Putting a lot of work as a lecturer. Enjoying lecturing. Importance of knowing peoples names. Getting on well with students. The social life of the university. Thai students. The most junior lecturer. Lecturing, students 00:11:37 Changes at the university. Not knowing too many people at the university. The Agricultural Department was isolated. Meeting Street VC . Don’t patronise me. Sub Dean of the faculty. Promotion disappointments. Prof Boyle refuses to see Robson. Talking to failed applicants. University support for lecturers. No one peer reviewed the teaching. Importance of research. Agricultural Department, isolated, Promotion, Boyle, peer review, research 00:15:37 Memories of the quality of the students in the 1970s. Agriculture was a close knit faculty. An exciting time. Strong research group. state research and the support of rural industry research funds. State wheat research group. Teaching honours students. High quality students. Agriculture students weren’t the highest achieving students. the position of Agriculture at UWA. Pecking order in science at UWA. Discussions with Posner. Research not based on science. Large numbers of international students in Agriculture . Large numbers of students. A lot of time on research . Quality, Posner, research 00:20:33 Grassland Research Institute in 1980. Promotion to Associate Professor 83 applying for the chair of soil science 1983. Public process of getting a chair. David Lindsay and Bob Linder and Robson to move the department forward. Fill Cox. Productive period to 1993. Foundation professor of CLIMA Centre for Legumes in Mediterranean Agriculture. CRC projects in future farming. Grassland Research Institute, Associate Professor, David Lindsay, Bob Linder, Fill Cox*, CLIMA 00:23:23 David Lindsay and sheep research. collaboration Department of Agriculture. In-service training in Muresk. Nutrient deficiency book. High science a valuable science. Looking at the reputation of UWA. Complacent in Perth. Isolation. Curtin and UWA. Comparisons with other universities in the east. David Lindsay, collaboration, Muresk, isolation, Curtin 00:27:00 Complacency in agriculture. International links. Importance of international students and visitors. Series of conferences on trace elements in soil and plants. Attraction of people. International connections and publishing international journals. Pre computers. Writing and conferences. Encouraged to research and support of research funds. Expected to be strong in research. Assessment of research performance. Large numbers of students. Industry funds. Going to talk at conferences Complacency, Industry funds, conferences, research 00:31:42 UWA and its place in the world. John Pate and Underwood and Fellow of the Royal Society. Chemistry was strong. Period of acting head of science and Agriculture. Dean of Agriculture. Promotions and tenure committee. Making decisions a minute. Fay Gayle. Management leaders. Whelen and Street. Fay Gayle, Management leaders. Whelen and Street. 00:36:00 Theatrics at the academic board. Patty O’brien, Mal Sergeant, John Jory. The debating society . moving a motion on devolution of the university. Bob Street. UWA was run by powerful committee and formula. Politics. Grants and budget. Political system. University house and the politics. Patty O’brien, Mal Sergeant, John Jory, Bob Street, Politics, Grants 00:38:45 Fierce place at agriculture. The academic board was a different game all together. Quirk would go to the uni house to talk to people. Working the system. Blakers, Boyle and Billings. The strong people early on. Underwood. Other people were good at working the system. Memories of Neville Stanley. The game of the professor. astute people could engineers support. Performance based budget. Politics change to designing the formulas. Blakers, Boyle and Billings, Neville Stanley 00:42:58 CLIMA and the internationalisation of UWA. CSIRO, Ag Dep. Steering the committee. Harry Perkins. Independent experts. Centre for Legumes in Mediterranean Agriculture CLIMA and finance. Survives today and has significant links. Dominated research. getting enough people together. The good will. CLIMA, Harry Perkins, CLIMA, research 00:46:00 Sabbatical leave system. The system disappeared in the 1970s. Importance of study leave. UWA and employment of international people. Tendency of appointing people from outside is good for internationalisation. People felt isolated at UWA. Travel and the internet. Sabbatical, internationalisation 00:50:11 Eyes focusing on UWA. Gayle changed the place. Adelaide was miles ahead of UWA. Thoughts of Fay Gayle. Derrick Schreuder. Deputy Vice Chancellor. Margaret Seares. UWA was inward looking. Running the budget. Becoming VC Gayle, Gayle, Derrick Schreuder, Margaret Seares. Interview 3 00:00:00 Shcreuder takes an external role. Robson running the budget and Providing leadership under shcreuder. Productive period. 2004 Vice Chancellor achieving international excellence. Rankings and quality audits of the 90s. local community and the wider world. UWA serving the community as a gateway to the world. Working at an international level. 88 in the world. Schreuder, international excellence, rankings, gateway 00:04:05 An enormous leap in ranking with the Nobel Prize of Barry marshall and Robin Warren. Achievements and teaching and quality. Scores of student satisfaction. Introduction of gernalised degree. Professional post graduate degree. Incentives through the budget. The culture of the university. Nobel Prize, Barry Marshall, budget 00:07:10 Memories of the building of the club. Doing a servey in 1998. Engaging with the city and business. A University centre in Albany. Getting more scholarships. Equity dimension. Collaboration and competition with other WA universities. Perceptions of the community. Stable executive. Margaret Seares. Peter Curtis. Cohesive group. Viewing the role of VC. Internationally competitive. Support from the university community. The Club, Albany, Collaboration, Margaret Seares, Peter Curtis, Internationally competitive, university community 00:12:37 Robson didn’t leave UWA when Derrick Schreuder was Vice Chancellor. Memories of Michael Chaney and Ken Michael chancellors of UWA. UWA is performing the right way. Performing parts of the university. Attracting North American students. President of Gutenberg university comes to UWA. Derrick Schreuder , Michael Chaney, Ken Michael, 00:16:20 Students must leave with more than a degree. Students engaging more at the university. More colleges at the university and building at UWA. The Bayliss building. The business school. The business school board. Tony Howarth, Tracey Houghton. Changing the feeling of the business community toward UWA. The business school, Tony Howarth*, Tracey Houghton 00:18:02 Quality of student. The performers indicators. Worrying lack of students in mathematics and engineers. Wider range of ability and decline in standards. Holley Ransom. Political parties declined in the university. Concerns for the intellect leaving with international students. Alumni functions in London and elsewhere. Graduates go all around the world. Post graduate students and international students. Income for the university. Teaching in English. International students, Holley Ransom, standards 00:24:37 Fees and a free university. Fraser government and Howard government - fees and HECs. Impact on equity. Deregulation reforms. Difficult decisions of the Vice Chancellor. Professional staff car park. Closing UWA Press. Fees, HECs, equity 00:29:30 Staffing appointments. Choosing the right people. Chair of the group of 8 universities. Research universities. Universities Australia. research funding. Being involved in national affairs. Awards. Australia Medal for Agriculture and Science. Order and Officer of Australia Medal. Reputation of UWA. group of 8, Research finding, reputation 00:33:35 Awards for work in the field of agriculture and as Vice Chancellor. The juggling match of family and career. Working 6 days a week and travelling a lot. Good experiences as student and academic at UWA. 00:36:50 Pride of work. Accomplishments of the university. Interactions with the students. publishing good papers. String protestant work ethic. Group effort standing on the shoulders of giants. Being challenged. Rooster and feather dusters. Accomplishments, pride 00:40:00 Knowing people at the university. Leaving the position in 2011. Isolation. Looking at the university today. Chance to influence the university. Post university roles. Chairing Museum committee, Higher education standards body, CSIRO and doing interesting things. Quality of higher education and regulating standards. Excellent students at UWA today. UWA on a good trajectory. Paul Johnson doing a very good job. Isolation, higher education, students 00:44:55 Universities and values. UWA will differentiate. Students must value going to University. Network of 20 world wide universities. Collaborations around the world. Global village and online university. Mature age and school leavers. The death of the university. Group learning in the library. Global village, The death of the university 00:48:35 Growth online of university. Looking at personal experience. Great social and student life. Student cohesion and the strong guild and university. Summing up a fortunate life since UWA connections since 1966. Audio Files Links to audio files <a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/b6eaf5b710f2b351a4d37db0667a8c19.mp3">Robson, Interview 1, Track 1</a> <br /><a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/29979380db59e73c653241d990a895d9.mp3">Robson, Interview 2, Track 1</a> <br /><a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/a5b5eb9ab9d6af93b241794df4740e47.mp3">Robson, Interview 2, Track 2</a> Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Alan Robson interview, 13 August 2014 and 15 August 2014 Subject The topic of the resource Vice-Chancellery Description An account of the resource Alan Robson talks of his involvement with UWA from his initial student days from 1966 to the experiences of his coming to work at the university in 1974. He reflects on the universities reputation and how it was considered in the 1970s while considering its current rankings on the academic world scale. Working in the faculty of agriculture he speaks of his memories of his colleagues like Reg Moir, Neville Stanley and David Lindsay among others. He talks of the development of his career from lecturer to Dean of Agriculture and Vice Chancellor of the university 2004. He looks at the work of former Vice Chancellors Fay Gayle and Derrick Shreuder. With a distinguished career in his field of expertise Robson was foundation professor of CLIMA Centre for Legumes in Mediterranean Agriculture. This body would help the university expand its connections on the world stage, a main aim of Alan’s internationalisation of the university in his work as Deputy Vice Chancellor and then Vice Chancellor. He recalls changes to the community of the University he has experienced and talks of his aims for the university’s development and future in taking up the position of Vice Chancellor in2004. He speaks of some of the many achievements of the University over his 48 years of association with the institution. He looks at its growth and its future in a changing academic world. Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource Robson, Alan Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available University of Western Australia Historical Society Contributor An entity responsible for making contributions to the resource Copyright holder University of Western Australia Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource MP3 files Type The nature or genre of the resource Oral History Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource UWA ORAL HISTORIES Description An account of the resource A collection of interviews with former UWA staff, recorded by the <a href="http://www.alumni.uwa.edu.au/community/historical-society" target="_blank">UWA Historical Society</a> to mark the Centenary of the University in 2013. <br />The UWA Historical Society’s <a href="http://www.alumni.uwa.edu.au/community/historical-society/oral-histories" target="_blank">Oral History Program</a> started as a project with four oral histories funded from Society resources. It was then expanded with support from every Faculty on campus, the Guild, Convocation and through private donations. Additional funding was received through a Heritage Grant. Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available University of Western Australia Historical Society Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource University of Western Australia Historical Society Oral History A resource containing historical information obtained in interviews with persons having firsthand knowledge. Interviewer The person(s) performing the interview John Bannister Interviewee The person(s) being interviewed John Ross Duration Length of time involved (seconds, minutes, hours, days, class periods, etc.) Interview 1: 58 minutes, 25 seconds Interview 2: 53 minutes, 13 seconds Interview 3: 1 hour, 3minutes Total: 2 hours, 54 minutes, 38 seconds Bit Rate/Frequency Rate at which bits are transferred (i.e. 96 kbit/s would be FM quality audio) 128 kbs Time Summary A summary of an interview given for different time stamps throughout the interview Interview 1 00:00:00 Introduction, origins, father’s war hero brother. North Sydney Boys High School - selective high school. Commonwealth Office of Education. UNESCO. University student on a full wage. 00:05:00 Liking psychology. Employee of the Commonwealth. Approval from the minister Paul Hasluck*. Working at the University of Sydney. Going to Princeton University. Special assistance service. 00:09:15 Australians and tennis. Personal assistant. Academic qualities and Mrs. Myers*. Myres Briggs type indicator. 00:14:45 White Anglo-Saxon Protestant stereotypes. Sydney University or UWA. 00:18:00 Why UWA? Memories of psychology. 00:21:45 Coming to UWA in 1961. Memories of UWA and Perth. University and women. The Tuart club. University wages. 00:25:55 Debate and learning. Academics very influential. Agriculture and Eric Underwood. Trace elements in the WA soil could be fixed. Gladstones and the potential for growing wines. 00:27:30 Discovery of mineral and economic potential of the state. The effect of migrants. Ron Taft and Alan Richardson. Assimilation of migrants into the state. 00:29:30 Deficiency in disabled facility. Aubrey Little*, Eldam Morey. The community of intellectualism in 1961. Alan Edwards and the New Fortune Theatre. Nolan paintings. Memories of Underwood and general intellectual staff. Faculty of Psychology. 00:34:00 Teaching and research university. George Seddon*. UWA and its intellectual internationalism. Asian and European influence. 00:38:20 Quality of students and staff. Standards – Princeton and international comparisons. Technical facilities at the university. 00:42:00 Psychometrics and publication in journals. Princeton, visual perception. The Ames Room. 00:46:50 Visual perception, developments of study and research. Light strip, impact on the brain. Moving signs. Betagraph*. Success in marketing. Gloucester park Betagraph. 00:51:35 Attempts to make money and funding. Television signals and Merrill Lynch*. Being inventive. Carnarvon tracking station. Establishment of the visual laboratory. 00:55:20 Australian Research Grants Committee. Cost of computers. Mathematical structure and mathematical analysis. NASA and startling research at UWA. Interview 2 00:00:00 Elaborating on the vision laboratory. Applying mathematical techniques. Becoming a full professor. 00:04:48 American academia and psychometric stuff. Computers and Visual Perception. Isaac Newton. Problems of displaying results. Research grant application. Psychometrics. Refugee Montey* and the Carnarvon tracking station. 00:10:20 Carnarvon, lab, getting equipment. The visual system and differences of the eye. Stereopsis experiments. Three dimensional psychometrics. Straight and dynamic stereopsis*. 00:14:25 Point stereoscopes. Information and storing of visual system. Resources of visual perception. 00:17:15 New lab and studies and UWA standing. New way of television. Random scanning. Monitoring systems. Sending encrypted pictures. The Bell Labs. Building a model of the encrypting method. Minister of defence. Trouble with American defence and Pine Gap. 00:22:40 Cheaper methods of display system and the Betagraph. UWA were beating the gong and the random scanning TV taken to Trade fair in Chicago. Prescott and the front page news. 00:25:00 Support from UWA. Donation and financial systems. Vice Chancellor and special meeting of the Senate. Being crucified by the Chancellor. University and decision-making committee. 00:29:00 No people who were support for the visual lab. Inventions. 00:30:55 Saccadies and vision laboratory. Amazing factors of the eye movement and judgement of a subject. Dave Bure – Moroney*. Nobel prize winner and the Korean institute. Movement of the eye and a stable image. 00:34:45 How does the system work. The brain makes the adjustment. Shifting point of reference. Working out cute experiments. Compression of space. 00:37:50 Travel. National Institutes for Health. Changes with the operation of the physiology of the eye. Movement of the eye in a lifetime. Working in the Bell labs. 00:40:30 Research at the bell labs. Money and huge discovery. Interaction, Cambridge and Commonwealth Fellow. Fellow of St John’s. Physiology. 00:43:35 Deputy Vice Chancellor of Research. Growth of the department and PhDs. Committee work, politics. Carmen Lawrence detests doctors. Strategic plan of the country. Medicine run from Melbourne. 00:47:11 Carmen Lawrence and the head of the planning committee for National and Research Council. MHNRC. Running the organisation. Development of career and directing the department. One Professor system. Retaining important people. First and second professor system. The professorial board. Reader and deputy professor. Status of professor has gone. The Doctor Professor. Interview 3 00:00:00 Seeing psychology of UWA. Memories of the temporary building and shambles. Lack of professor of psychology. Kenneth Walker* Professor. Comparison to the European views of psychology. Moral philosophy and the shame discipline. Walter Murdoch and Murdoch University. Split in psychology 00:04:55 Scientists and practitioners of psychology. Freud. Humanistic and scientific practitioners. Experiments and the science. Tension and internal conflict. Animals and experiments. 00:08:35 Struggling with the problem and becoming a reputable subject. Experimental psychology is harder. Humanistic and clinical proportion split. Changes in department and current perceptions. 00:11:45 Components of the department. Study in child study centre. Helping adult and mental illness. Friction between in medicine and psychologist. Interactions between Faculties. Understanding the history of psychology. Comparisons between Psychology and Law building. 00:18:11 Prescott era and entrenched views. Mandatory to wear a gown. University hierarchy. Staff meeting and impromptu speech. Keach* and the opened and closed mind. 00:21:51 Studies, animals. Jarvis* accountant, visual experiments on counting. The number four. 00:29:00 Animals, counting, making judgements on numbers. Brain and visual system. Quantitative calculations. Big groups in England. University College London and College de France fighting over findings. 00:33:33 Earliest development of perception. The Visual Cliff. Children, cats, octopus. Solidifying the community of academic learning. Drawing people from all sorts of disciplines. 00:37:50 Thoughts on university, specialities. Saccadic Eye Movements. 00:40:30 Changes in University – bureaucracy, money, community. Real research outside university. Training and teaching. Academy and Greek experience. 00:43:40 Learning, lecturing, studying, advice. Oppenheim* and lighting cigarettes and Tompkins* hand gestures. 00:47:25 Learning more and growing up. Joining in at the university. Changes. Psychology and expansion. Internet and social media. Staff and student interactions. 00:52:50 Improving the course structure. Teaching outside areas of interest. University jobs and the cost of high class cognac.. Centres of scholarship. Competitive, Cambridge and Oxford. Oxford and drunkenness. 00:57:00 High point of University the government and money. Menzies, Whitlam and Dawkins. University and mass education. Ratings and world standards. Harvard and lowering of standards. The quality of education. Final words and doing a dreary job. Surviving and poor quality of journals. Lang Hancock. Audio Files Links to audio files <a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/998d4cd1c8383e13be0b28fa4b909bc3.mp3">Ross, Interview 1, Track 1</a> <br /><a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/dddf228c2cf74eaea7c1da08223b2fb7.mp3">Ross, Interview 1, Track 2</a> <br /><a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/5a93a1e5cf0e0d70a4b984e86634618b.mp3">Ross, Interview 1, Track 3</a> Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource John Ross interview, 13 August 2012, 20 August 2012 and 27 August 2012 Subject The topic of the resource Science; Psychology Description An account of the resource Emeritus Professor John Ross began work in the department of Psychology at the University of Western Australia in 1961. In 1968 he was promoted to Senior Lecturer and in 1970 became the Department’s second Chair and later the Departmental Head. Professor Ross specialised in the field of saccadic eye movement and has garnered international recognition for his work with biological visual systems. Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource Ross, John Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available University of Western Australia Historical Society Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource Copyright holder University of Western Australia Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource MP3 files Type The nature or genre of the resource Oral History Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource UWA ORAL HISTORIES Description An account of the resource A collection of interviews with former UWA staff, recorded by the <a href="http://www.alumni.uwa.edu.au/community/historical-society" target="_blank">UWA Historical Society</a> to mark the Centenary of the University in 2013. <br />The UWA Historical Society’s <a href="http://www.alumni.uwa.edu.au/community/historical-society/oral-histories" target="_blank">Oral History Program</a> started as a project with four oral histories funded from Society resources. It was then expanded with support from every Faculty on campus, the Guild, Convocation and through private donations. Additional funding was received through a Heritage Grant. Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available University of Western Australia Historical Society Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource University of Western Australia Historical Society Oral History A resource containing historical information obtained in interviews with persons having firsthand knowledge. Interviewer The person(s) performing the interview Julia Wallis Interviewee The person(s) being interviewed Margaret Seares Location The location of the interview Crawley, W.A. Duration Length of time involved (seconds, minutes, hours, days, class periods, etc.) Interview 1: 53 minutes, 55 seconds Interview 2: 55 minutes, 26 seconds Total: 1 hour, 49 minutes, 21 seconds Bit Rate/Frequency Rate at which bits are transferred (i.e. 96 kbit/s would be FM quality audio) 128 kbs Time Summary A summary of an interview given for different time stamps throughout the interview Interview 1 Track 1 00:00 Introduction by Julia Wallis 00:38 Track 2 00:00 Margaret was born on 2 December 1948 in Surrey, England while her parents were working here after the Second World War. She was educated at St Hilda’s Anglican School in Mosman Park. She got a basic Christian education which helped her when she studied music later on. Music education at St Hilda’s was mediocre and Margaret took piano lessons outside. Nobody in her immediate family had been to university. She got a scholarship to UWA after taking a year’s break to do her piano diploma. In her first year at UWA she studied Music, French, History and Political Science. In second year, she did music and history. She was invited to do Honours in both subjects but decided to opt for music and took musicology. Later she did a Masters and a PhD at UWA. 05:40 The old music department was located at Tuart House in Crawley where the Festival Offices are now located. The rooms were not sound proofed. There was a prefab building where lectures were held. The music library was old but contained good material and listening booths. The School was a tight knit group as they were away from the main campus. Margaret became involved with the student choral society and David Tunley’s a capella choir. The music students stayed on campus most of the day and sometimes stayed back after hours to listen to music. The course was quite intensive. Sir Frank Callaway was head of department and very ‘old school’. David Tunley was inspiring. Sally Trethowan wrote reviews for the West and lectured on Wagner. John Exton was from Cambridge and advocated 20th century serial music but was dismissive of Tchaikovsky. Margaret is very fond of baroque music. All the music taught was strictly classical. 11:43 Many of the students became teachers. Frank Callaway headed up music education. Some students studied performance, others like Jennifer Fowler, studied composition. It was quite acceptable then to study for the joy of study without an end in mind. There was a tradition of youth concerts. During the Festival they had a classical music forum where young composer such as Ross Edwards and Carl Vine (both of whom later became famous) would be tutored by a visiting international name. In addition, visiting lecturers were invited from interstate and abroad to work with the students and do a series of concerts. 16:04 As well as lectures and some practical work, students benefited from a one on one tutorial. The Music School introduced the concept of listening tests. Students would listen to the music in the Music Library. Margaret was the piano accompanist for the undergraduate choral society for many years. This helped to make her a good sight reader. She took cello lessons at this time and in the 1980s, she learnt to play the harpsichord. 20:50 Margaret chose baroque music as her Honours topic (François Couperin), supervised by David Tunley. He also supervised her Masters (French Stage Music) and PhD (German keyboard music). In Margaret’s Honours year in 1970 there were only two students studying musicology; a couple did composition and more did performance. The Music School was small and intimate and students and staff shared a close relationship. 24:14 Outside of music, Margaret played netball. She took friends to the family farm and they camped in the bush. She also sang in a rock band for a while. There were plenty of balls and parties. Balls would be organised by Arts or one of the colleges. Margaret had friends at Currie Hall, St Catherine’s and Kingswood that she met through the choir. A big highlight for her was taking part in inter-varsity choral festivals throughout Australia. 26:25 In 1970, after graduation, Margaret studied for a Masters’ degree. In 1972-3, she travelled to the UK and Europe for a working holiday. Margaret took a break from music but still attended concerts. She saw famous conductors and soloists as well as operas such as Debussy’s Pelléas et Mélisande. Australian opera and ballet was still in the early stages of development. Margaret finds that modern opera caters for a more popular audience. 31:08 While Margaret was teaching in Slough, she received a telegram from Frank Callaway asking her to replace David Tunley while he was on study leave. The following year, she filled in for another staff member. It was good experience as she had to teach across all areas. She was invited to be classical music producer at the new radio station set up at UWA in 1977 - Radio 6UVS-FM. She designed the programme and chose the music. When she took time off to have her first child she continued to work part-time for the School of Music and the radio station. The radio station did not record music or concerts themselves. 35:36 The new music school was built on the campus in 1976. The close knit nature of the school continued when they moved onto campus and the facilities were better. Technology changed constantly. Now music students can listen to music on their own i-pods and they can do a lot more study from home. It is challenging to get students to engage with staff on campus. It is hard to make accurate comparisons with today compared with the past as data was not collected so assiduously and no student exit questionnaires were handed out until about 1995. 42:16 When Margaret was Head of School (1991-1995), the type of student had changed. The Bachelor degree in music was now considered prestigious and was more careers driven. There was some competition between the Conservatorium and UWA. Some of the best music students went on to study medicine or commerce. There was greater student engagement. Lectures became more like question and answer sessions. Ethnomusicology or world music encompasses Asian and Aboriginal music. The Music School has always had good collections from all over the world. The School of Music can arrange for students to do exchanges in other universities. Perth is not as isolated as when Margaret was studying. More people reside in Perth from interstate and from Asia, Africa and the Middle East. It is quite difficult for students from a non-Christian background to understand the subtleties involved in studying a traditional Western music course. 53:03 Interview 2 Track 1 00:00 Introduction by Julia Wallis 00:39 Track 2 00:00 Margaret took over as head of school from David Tunley with the approval of the staff. Head of School is responsible for the welfare of the school and the students, the budgets and general administration assisted by the secretary and an administrative assistant. Margaret still taught but found she had less time to do research. Elected as a staff representative onto the Senate. Elected as Deputy Chair of the Academic Board. Externally, she was on the Board of the WA Symphony Orchestra. The incoming Arts Minister, Peter Foss, asked Margaret to Chair his Arts Advisory Committee. 06:20 In early 1995, Margaret was asked to apply for the job of Director of Arts WA. She was very uncertain as to whether she wanted to do this job because she was very comfortable at UWA. When she was offered the job, she negotiated with the Deputy Vice-Chancellor, Alan Robson, to do a 2 year secondment from UWA in case things didn’t work out. Working for the government was very different to academia. It was a steep learning curve. At the end of the two years, Federal Minister, Senator Richard Alston asked her to be Chair of the Australia Council – the first person from WA in this role. The Council was considered to be too Sydney-centric. 13:50 The Chair’s job is a different role. She worked very closely with Government and the arts sector. Margaret worked in this job for 4 years. She suggested that some meetings be held in the other capital cities outside of Sydney, Melbourne and Canberra. The job involved a lot of travelling. At one time she was the Executive Chair as well which meant she was both CEO and Chair. Margaret met some interesting and significant people. During this time, there was a Performing Arts Enquiry. Pauline Hanson and One Nation came to prominence. Arts funding received $43 million. Other Councillors included Ron Radford, Director of the National Gallery and Helen Nugent, who is currently conducting an enquiry into the future of the opera companies in Australia. 17:48 At the end of the 4 years, Margaret decided to step away from being a public servant as she felt that she was becoming too bureaucratic. She returned to UWA. She had been working part time at the university setting up the external community relations portfolio. She returned to work as Pro Vice-Chancellor, Community Relations. The Office of Development was set up to fund-raise, liaise with media, market UWA and encourage community outreach. Outreach programmes include the Perth Festival, the galleries, University Press and Extension. Western Australia does not receive as big a slice of Federal arts funding. Most of the money is spent on the national opera and ballet companies and the symphony orchestras. More WA representation is needed on boards and panels. 23:26 The days of strong university funding was over and it was important to set up an office of development to look at ways to attract funding from the alumni and philanthropists. The Rindos case in the early 1990s had caused very negative media for UWA. At this stage, Colin Campbell-Fraser was hired to manage UWA’s relationship with the press and public affairs. It was felt that UWA had become remote from the community. University extension was strong before the era of online courses. The Festival was the most prominent part of the outreach. David Blenkinsop was Director for 20 years. Now, directors change every four years. The Festival must attract people from all over Perth. Lotterywest provide long term funding. During Sean Doran’s time it was attempted to run a Festival in Albany, Broome, Geraldton, Mandurah and Kalgoorlie concurrently with Perth. Albany was the only centre that got a large audience take up. 30:46 Margaret was Pro Vice-Chancellor from 2001 to 2003. In 2004, Alan Robson was appointed Vice Chancellor when Deryck Schreuder left at the end of 2003. Robson appointed Margaret as Senior Deputy Vice-Chancellor (2004-2008). All the Deans reported to her. She was also responsible for staffing policies and kept an overview on community relations and external relations. She was also on a range of external committees such as the Australian Research Council. In 2008, she turned 60 and decided not to renew her contact. She retired in order to do more research as well as travel and brush up on language skills. 36:46 Her old PhD has been published as a book. She has published articles. She has visited Europe and practised her French, Italian and German. She agreed to go on too many boards and committees as she was worried she would be bored but this hasn’t been the case. Being a board member of the National Portrait Gallery; the WA Symphony Orchestra and Telethon were very enjoyable. She is still on the Board of the Perth Festival. It is not the role of the Board to interfere in the running of the organisation but to give advice. In the case of the ABC, perhaps the Board has been too hands-off. Today, there is a lot more Board assessment – internal and/or external. 42:53 Margaret was invited onto the Festival Board in 2009 and elected as Chair in 2012. When her current term finishes she will not be renewing. She believes that there needs to be younger Board members on the Festival to keep it relevant and encourage a younger audience. The Fringe Festival is different to the Perth Festival and isn’t seen as a competitor. Fringe has contributed to the vibrancy of the city. Margaret was on the Perth Revitalizing Committee from 2009-2013. It was recommended that the arts would be integrated into the vision. Local Government has not been amalgamated into the scheme as yet. However, the Chamber of Arts & Culture came out of one of the committee’s recommendations. 47:03 Senate appoints the Chair of the Festival Board. Margaret is working on the recent donation by Andrew and Nicola Forrest. She has liaised between her contacts and UWA to assist with fund raising. She occasionally supervises PhDs in her role as Senior Honorary Research Fellow. The School of Music is tracking well. The new course structure has attracted students other than specialist music students. The School has a good relationship with the WA Symphony Orchestra. Generally arts and music schools in universities around Australia are struggling. 49:09 Margaret has had great pleasure from her long involvement with UWA. The challenge for UWA is to survive in the current economic climate. Having worked on both sides of the fence in universities she believes that internal communication is crucial to success. 54:47 Audio Files Links to audio files <a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/9881513c47b8fbda9c493c1f3316fcad.mp3">Seares, Interview 1, Track 1</a> <br /><a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/4d6cc00b9afb5b78608d24e8ca3fa39f.mp3">Seares, Interview 1, Track 2</a> <br /><a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/d7f329d6226eaf6cb947b6fbcb71d719.mp3">Seares, Interview 2, Track 1</a> <br /><a href="http://oralhistories.arts.uwa.edu.au/files/original/230248171a792e5df29028a1b0796b95.mp3">Seares, Interview 2, Track 2</a> Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Margaret Seares interview, 6 November 2014 and 26 November 2014 Subject The topic of the resource Music Description An account of the resource Margaret Seares holds a PhD from UWA in Music, her field of specialty being the keyboard music of the 18th century. From 1991-1995 she was Head of the School of Music, and Deputy Chair of the Academic Board at UWA. In 1995 she accepted a two-year secondment to the position of CEO with the West Australian Department for the Arts (now the Department of Culture and the Arts), and in 1997 she was appointed to a 4-year term as Chair of the Australia Council. She has been a member of a wide range of Boards and Councils in the government, not-for-profit, and arts sectors and is currently a board member of the West Australian Symphony Orchestra, a Councillor with the WA Chamber of Commerce & Industry and with Scotch College WA, a member of the Australian Research Council's advisory council, and a member of the board of the Council for the Humanities Arts & Social Sciences. In 2003 Professor Seares was awarded the Officer of the Order of Australia in recognition of her work for the arts and education. Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource Seares, Margaret Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available University of Western Australia Historical Society Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource Copyright holder University of Western Australia Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource MP3 files Type The nature or genre of the resource Oral History